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Welcome back![edit]

Happy to have you It looks like you decided to do a small spate of edits a few weeks back. I hope you choose to stay. Koavf (talk) 19:50, 10 October 2016 (PDT)

Hello again If you are willing, please contact me off-wiki. My email address is [my first name]koavf[littleanarchysign]gmail[point]com. Koavf (talk) 15:18, 22 January 2017 (PST)
Thanks for the welcome! :) Life for me is somewhat disrupted, and will probably be so for some time in the future too. If you wish to chat off-wiki, can you fire the first salvo!? My e-mail starts with my WikiIndex username - hyphenated lower-case - before that fancy hay sign, followed by 'ukhome' (no quotes), then a full stop, finished by something commercial fishermen catch their haul in. :) Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 16:29, 22 January 2017 (PST)
Agreed! Koavf (talk) 23:05, 31 January 2017 (PST)

Activity tag[edit]

In this revert You are arguing, that " just because I might not edit for a while, doesn't mean I can't 'sysop!!".

 I've recently been 'promoted' to an {{tag|Active administrators of this wiki|administrator}} 

was never a logically correct sentence anyway. You can be promoted to Admin. If(!) You are getting active, then You are an active admin. One can not promote You towards 'active admin'. And, since You explicitly declared Yourself as inactive that time, it was only consequent to remove this tag. The purpose of this tag is, to collect active admins in this cat: Category:Active administrators of this wiki so one knows to whom to turn in case one needs their help. To turn to You around that time of Your hiatus, was obviously futile. So I removed this tag in service of the help-searchers. I did not do that with other admins, because they did not explicitly declare their inactivity since I was there. I did not declare You might not be admin any more, like Koavf did in this edit which was certainly inappropriate. I knew, that You where gone but not demoted. --Manorainjan 06:55, 24 January 2017 (PST)

Manorainjan – will you EVER learn? Just STOP poking your nose into issues which are NOT your responsibility? And also, stop being the school-boy grass. Your behaviour is NOT welcome here on WikiIndex, in just the same way you are not wanted on other wiki sites due to your aggressive and confrontational behaviour. Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 09:32, 24 January 2017 (PST)
So, again, to the matter itself You did not find any answer. Therefore again You resort to 'arguments' of the type of wp:Ad hominem --Manorainjan 09:38, 24 January 2017 (PST)
Manor, for the love of Pete, stop provoking people. We're all sick and tired of your pugnacious behavior. --This is MY book, and I'm gonna READ IT!!! 09:48, 24 January 2017 (PST)


Hey Hoof, is it ok if I send you an email? It's kinda important. --This is MY book, and I'm gonna READ IT!!! 08:24, 25 January 2017 (PST)

Sure, can you work it out from my description above at #Welcome back!?? Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 17:21, 25 January 2017 (PST)

About your message[edit]

Hello, Hoof Hearted. The reason why I did these redirect is simple: those wikis never existed. They were invented by User:Jason. I was around on the wikisphere on May/June 2015 - even if I wasn't editing here - and I saw how the users from Rex Wikia wanted to fork the wiki to, but they never did it actually. I know how we treat dead wikis here. I hope it's not a problem if I don't undo the redirects, but it's obvious that you can do it yourself if needed. Best regards :-) --TheTVFan (talk) 04:41, 28 January 2017 (PST)

OK, if they never actually existed, then there is no need to undo the redirect. I trust you are aware of the Category:in preparation status for wiki that are being created, but not yet launched?
Oh, just for future info, we prefer to keep a specific talk page topic on the same page - so if I start a message on your talk page, please answer on your talk page. It will be added to my watchlist, so I will be able to keep track of when you answer! :-P Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 04:57, 28 January 2017 (PST)
Thank you for your reply. I wrote my reply on your talk page only because it's a typical habit on Wikipedia and Wikia :-) Also, can you remove the protection from my talk page? I asked for it when I temporary left this wiki. About the category, I was not aware of it. It's good to know about it! Regards, --TheTVFan (talk) 05:24, 28 January 2017 (PST)
Talk page and user page now unprotected, but still restricted registered users only, ie, no IP address editing. Hope that is OK for you? Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 05:35, 28 January 2017 (PST)
Yes, it's okay. Thanks. --TheTVFan (talk) 05:42, 28 January 2017 (PST)

What's happening?[edit]

Hello. I'm asking this question you because you are very active. On the bottom of every page, when I edit, this error appears: "Expansion depth limit exceeded" - "This is not a free wiki hosting site". It is repeated about 50 times. Do you know what the problem is? :-) --TheTVFan (talk) 09:25, 2 February 2017 (PST)

Expansion depth See here. Not sure why it's happening to you--are you transcluding lots of pages or templates. Koavf (talk) 09:42, 2 February 2017 (PST)
Koavf, thank you for your reply. It does not happen when I'm editing templates, but on simple pages. See this screenshot, which clarifies the section in which the message appears. I think it's a system bug. Also, what's happening on this page? Best, --TheTVFan (talk) 10:04, 2 February 2017 (PST)
Templates Initially, I wrote "The problem isn't editing templates as such but using excessive templates in any namespace (including transcluding too many templates into a template--that happens sometimes). Can you show me a page on the wiki which has this problem now? I did a search but could not see any." Then I looked down! It looks like there is a problem with MediaWiki:Edittools. I'm investigating now... Regarding that page, I have no clue what's going on--I may need to export it as XML to even view it properly. I asked Brandon about it awhile ago but didn't get a response--he is too preoccupied to help here. Koavf (talk) 11:46, 2 February 2017 (PST)
Indeed, I didn't understand what you meant before. As of now, I don't see the expansion depth problem anymore. Thanks for solving it. --TheTVFan (talk) 12:50, 2 February 2017 (PST)

Wiki template[edit]

Hi, could you please un-protect the Wiki template so I can add a "founded date" section to it real quick? Thanks! --Queen Princess Vizier Countess Jello 09:18, 3 March 2017 (PST)

This sounds like a good idea but it would be really helpful if it automatically categorized a page in the FoundedInXXXX category scheme. That will take a little doing. Let me see if I can configure it (unless Sean wants to or if you have the code handy). Koavf (talk) 12:03, 3 March 2017 (PST)
ye i have the code to do that I just need the template unlocked. --Queen Princess Vizier Countess Jello 13:57, 4 March 2017 (PST)
Give it a shot. If you can make it auto-categorizing, that's helpful. The entire thing needs an overhaul but it's a bigger job than I can do this weekend. Koavf (talk) 16:51, 4 March 2017 (PST)

privileges removed[edit]

Hi Hoof Hearted, you should really also remove my privilege as a checkuser. That's the scary group assignment. Thanks and cheers --[[kgh]] (talk) 00:06, 30 April 2017 (PDT)

Make me happy :-)[edit]

Hi Sean, I have seen several edits from you that have warmed my heart! Appreciate your efforts here. Best, MarkDilley

You are most welcome! :-) Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 12:09, 5 May 2017 (PDT)

Take a look at my last two contribs[edit]

Since they are relevant to you. Don't want to be too stealthy about editing your edits. Koavf (talk) 17:27, 24 May 2017 (PDT)

'Tis late here in Blighty! Thanks ;-) Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 17:39, 24 May 2017 (PDT)


Have You seen this? --Manorainjan 05:44, 25 May 2017 (PDT)

No, but thank you for the heads up. Much appreciated :-) Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 13:19, 26 May 2017 (PDT)


Hi Sean, why remove this, just curious? Best, Mark

That was from the IP which Koavf blocked. Their edit was meaningless cruft. Best, Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 17:09, 26 May 2017 (PDT)

Configuration Problems[edit]

Hi Hoof Hearted,

I'd like to take a look at what's up with the configuration problems that you mentioned on Mark's talk page. Will you provide me a few specific examples I can replicate to help me troubleshoot?

Best, BrandonCsSanders (talk) 17:42, 28 May 2017 (PDT)

Deletion of My User Pages[edit]

Hi, I'd like to know exactly why you think my user pages are "spam" or "vanity"? My user page only consisted of the header that I use in all the wikis where I edit (for example in Wikimedia) and the boxes babel, I had never happened this in any other project. I think this is a mistake and I hope you can reconsider this. Regards. —Alvaro Molina ( - ) 07:07, 27 September 2017 (PDT)

Hello, we have no objection to folks having user pages here on WikiIndex, but we have certain requirements. Those being that said user is (or has been) a regular contributor to this WikiIndex wiki, and / or that user is notable in other areas of the Wikisphere. You have clearly failed on the first issue, because apart from adding your own user page, and creating a blank user talk page (the latter is against our agreed standards - blank pages should be red links), you have yet to edit any other part of our wiki. Secondly, I don't see how you are notable. If I have missed something on the latter, please advise me - maybe you are a MediaWiki developer, or a global Wikimedia bureaucrat, or similar. Why don't you dive in here and start editing and contributing? Best regards. --Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 07:46, 27 September 2017 (PDT)
Hi, at some point I intend to contribute, especially here since I am also active contributor of that wiki. Here you can see my global contributions in Wikimedia and Miraheze. On the other hand, it seems excessive to me that you have protected at administrator level my user page and discussion as if it were a spammer or vandal. —Alvaro Molina ( - ) 08:42, 27 September 2017 (PDT)
As You can see here, Alvaro has confirmed this identity: --Manorainjan 08:29, 27 September 2017 (PDT)
I did not know about "certain requirements" that we have here and which contradict content like user boxes. Please point me to the requisite policy page. --Manorainjan 08:33, 27 September 2017 (PDT)
You may have a look at his global wikimedia account information which reveals edits on a good number of wikis. --Manorainjan 08:39, 27 September 2017 (PDT)
OK, thanks both. AlvaroMolina, thanks for updating me. And apologies for the 'terms' used when I deleted your pages (I will need to amend the relevant MediaWiki pages to include less inflammatory options). Appreciate the extra information you now provided, and I will restore your user page. It would help greatfuly if you could include those links to your Miraheze and Wikimedia contributions, etc. In my defence, after I initially deleted your pages, I hope you can respect my position that it could be seen as bad form to simply re-create deleted pages exactly the same as they previously were. I'm sure that would raise suspicions and questions on other wikis, especially WMF wikis. But we all make mistakes occasionally - live and learn is one of my mottos - and please do ask myself or any other sysop for advice on how WikiIndex works. Welcome aboard - and I look forward to your valued contributions here on WikiIndex.  :-))) --Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 09:14, 27 September 2017 (PDT)
Manorainjan, appreciate your help and assistance too. I trust you agree with my explanations above. Best. :-P --Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 09:14, 27 September 2017 (PDT)
Thanks for unprotecting and restoring my pages, I accept your apologies; just as clarification, if you look fine I had not exactly recreated my user page and discussion as the first time. On the other hand, Koavf knows me on Wikimedia projects and surely could also confirm my good intentions here. Regards. —Alvaro Molina ( - ) 09:24, 27 September 2017 (PDT)

Looking at the history of the now undeleted user page I would not know why one would even think of deleting it. In case I would have witnessed those edits, I'd rather ask the user if he needs some help, why he deleted his introductory sentence and if he can provide some links to his WP accounts. But I imagine, Alvaro has seen worth misunderstandings and is not lasting deterred. ;-) --Manorainjan 09:38, 27 September 2017 (PDT)

Voluptious domains?[edit] Domains und TLDs do not have capital letters. One can write a domein using caps into the address line, but that will be translated to lower case from the browser before it gets sent. It does not make a difference. Hence it is a mere waste of time to edit it. --Manorainjan 18:05, 30 September 2017 (PDT)

Domain names are case-insensitive. It often makes things more readable to have CamelCase in domain names. Jan Steinman (talk) 05:27, 4 October 2017 (PDT)
Says who? --Manorainjan 04:00, 4 October 2017 (PDT)
Sorry, forgot to log in. Old data about dynamic IPs says nothing about the current assignee of that IP. Jan Steinman (talk) 05:27, 4 October 2017 (PDT)
wp:Wikipedia:WikiProject on open proxies --Manorainjan 05:33, 4 October 2017 (PDT)
Thank you Jan Steinman - you are exactly correct. Some folks call it CamelCase, others call it LinkLanguage - all I know is that it vastly helps to improve readability of URLs. The fact that all modern browsers are able to render such URLs perfectly okay is a good reason to continue with making URLs easy to read. Thanks for your support Jan.
modern browsers are able to render such URLs Minor nit: browsers don't care, and indeed, they should not mess with URL case at all, except to parse off the domain name and pass it off to its Domain Name Server, which is responsible for case folding and returning an IP address. The portion of the URL after the domain name may be case sensitive, depending on the HTTP server. UNIX/Linux usually is, Windows certainly not. Jan Steinman (talk) 10:41, 4 October 2017 (PDT)
Manorainjan – why is it your concern with how I edit? I shall answer that for you: providing my edits do not break the wiki, and are constructive – you have NO right to tell me how to edit this wiki. And the same for everyone else who edits here – just keep your irritating questioning to yourself Manor! Furthermore, what business do you have with snooping for personal details on others IP addresses – especially when they edit constructively? Again, the answer is none. Please refrain from posting 'whois' type of searches here on WikiIndex, unless said IP is wreaking havoc by spamming. Best regards to all. Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 09:42, 4 October 2017 (PDT)
Path For a reason I titled 'Voluptious domains' and not Voluptious URL/URIs. The path is out of question. --Manorainjan 11:35, 4 October 2017 (PDT)

Personal data?[edit]

One can have "personal details" on an IP address? Is this not exactly the opposite of what Jan Steinman just wrote? --Manorainjan 09:49, 4 October 2017 (PDT)
As long as what Jan Steinman wrote was honest and constructive – YOU, Manorainjan have NO right posting personal data here on WikiIndex. Back off with your interfering, and take this as a WARNING – any repeat behaviour from you will result in a block. Please do not let me have to take such actions. Peace. Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 10:10, 4 October 2017 (PDT)
What is the personal data which I had posted? I absolutely deny Your claim that I posted personal data about Jan. --Manorainjan 10:26, 4 October 2017 (PDT)
Don't try and play the 'innocent' with me. You know exactly what personal info you posted. Last warning. Please STOP rocking the boat. Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 10:36, 4 October 2017 (PDT)
So, again You want to conceal Your inability to substantiate Your false claims against me by misusing Your admin powers? Like in the case of the wiki page about Corey Shields and the so called copyright violation regarding my design of the WikiIndex logo? Quite a habit! --Manorainjan 10:41, 4 October 2017 (PDT)

Thanks for the GreatFeature plug on my page[edit]

It's an extension I picked up somewhere called RandomImage.php. Let me know if you want more info about it. My wiki is ancient, and I don't know if it will still work with the current MediaWiki. :-) Jan Steinman (talk) 19:36, 3 October 2017 (PDT)

You are most welcome for the plug. I have seen the RandomImage tool used on other wikis – but the effect on the front page of your wiki is extremely effective. Your eco-village looks amazing – I wish I could join you all!! I so miss Canada. :-/ Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 09:48, 4 October 2017 (PDT)