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==Naming Wikimedia wikis==
==Naming Wikimedia wikis==
I think that the present guidelines present a problem with naming articles for [[:Category:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia]] wikis and any similar wikis.  https://www.Wikipedia.org, for example, is just a gateway to wikipedias in over 120 languages.  The [[Wikipedia]] article should be a general overview of those Wikipedias.  I think there should also be [[WikiIndex]] articles on at least the Top 10 or Top 20 Wikipedias.  For this to happen, the article names should probably be the Wiki's URL (minus <tt><nowiki>http://</nowiki></tt>), so the article for the English-language Wikipedia would be at 'en.wikipedia.org', the Japanese-languages Wikipedia would be at 'ja.wikipedia.org', etc. [[User:BlankVerse|BlankVerse]] 05:23, 16 Mar 2006 (EST)
I think that the present guidelines present a problem with naming articles for [[:Category:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia]] wikis and any similar wikis.  https://www.Wikipedia.org, for example, is just a gateway to wikipedias in over 120 languages.  The [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] article should be a general overview of those Wikipedias.  I think there should also be [[WikiIndex]] articles on at least the Top 10 or Top 20 Wikipedias.  For this to happen, the article names should probably be the Wiki's URL (minus <tt><nowiki>http://</nowiki></tt>), so the article for the English-language Wikipedia would be at 'en.wikipedia.org', the Japanese-languages Wikipedia would be at 'ja.wikipedia.org', etc. [[User:BlankVerse|BlankVerse]] 05:23, 16 Mar 2006 (EST)


: I agree with you that the [[Wikipedia]] page needs to be an overview, or a [[WikiIndex:Disambiguation|disambiguation]] page of some sort.  No one's gotten to doing that yet.  Want to get it started?  Another alternative to naming the languages would be 'Wikipedia (English)', 'Wikipedia (Japanese)', etc. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:19, 16 Mar 2006 (EST)
: I agree with you that the [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] page needs to be an overview, or a [[WikiIndex:Disambiguation|disambiguation]] page of some sort.  No one's gotten to doing that yet.  Want to get it started?  Another alternative to naming the languages would be 'Wikipedia (English)', 'Wikipedia (Japanese)', etc. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:19, 16 Mar 2006 (EST)


: I just found [[Simple English Wikipedia]].  That would be a 3rd option for naming conventions.  [[English Wikipedia]], [[Japanese Wikipedia]] etc. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 13:42, 16 Mar 2006 (EST)
: I just found [[Simple English Wikipedia]].  That would be a 3rd option for naming conventions.  [[English Wikipedia]], [[Japanese Wikipedia]] etc. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 13:42, 16 Mar 2006 (EST)


==naming places that host lots of wiki==
==naming places that host lots of wiki==
I think I messed up with [[Near-Time]] and [[StikiPad]].  They are technically not wiki -- they are '[[wiki farm]]s' that allow lots of people to set up lots of wiki.  So ... to be consistent with what people seem to already be doing, (such as [[:Category:TaoRiver]] and 'Pbwiki' which redirects to [[:Category:PBwiki]]), should we "move" (rename) them into the Category: namespace, a sub-category of [[:Category:WikiFarm]]?
I think I messed up with [[Near-Time]] and [[StikiPad]].  They are technically not wiki -- they are '[[wiki farm]]s' that allow lots of people to set up lots of wiki.  So ... to be consistent with what people seem to already be doing, (such as [[:Category:TaoRiver]] and 'Pbwiki' which redirects to [[:Category:PBwiki]]), should we "move" (rename) them into the Category: namespace, a sub-category of [[:Category:Wiki farm]]?


I expected the people who set up Near-Time and StikiPad -- obviously familiar with how wonderful wiki are -- to have a prominent link to a wiki holding FAQs about that host.  I am a bit surprised that not only is there no prominent link, I can't even find an obscure link.  I'm starting to suspect -- maybe there is no wiki about Near-Time or StikiPad? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 23:17, 15 October 2006 (EDT)
I expected the people who set up Near-Time and StikiPad -- obviously familiar with how wonderful wiki are -- to have a prominent link to a wiki holding FAQs about that host.  I am a bit surprised that not only is there no prominent link, I can't even find an obscure link.  I'm starting to suspect -- maybe there is no wiki about Near-Time or StikiPad? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 23:17, 15 October 2006 (EDT)
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===2012 current status===
===2012 current status===
====wiki engines====
====wiki engines====
Following on from the above standard, the basic wiki engine will be a subcategory of  [[:Category:Wiki Engine]], and will have an infobox rendered via the <tt>{{template|Wiki Engine}}</tt> template (now with a orange border).  However, if the said wiki engine also has its own wiki - say as a management administration 'help desk' or similar, then it will also have its own separate article in the main namespace, and will have its infobox rendered via the standard <tt>{{template|Wiki}}</tt> template (with the default black border); with the description prose clearly detailing the relationship between the namespace wiki article to the category wiki engine.
Following on from the above standard, the basic wiki engine will be a subcategory of  [[:Category:Wiki engine]], and will have an infobox rendered via the <tt>{{template|Wiki engine}}</tt> template (now with a orange border).  However, if the said wiki engine also has its own wiki - say as a management administration 'help desk' or similar, then it will also have its own separate article in the main namespace, and will have its infobox rendered via the standard <tt>{{template|Wiki}}</tt> template (with the default black border); with the description prose clearly detailing the relationship between the namespace wiki article to the category wiki engine.


A handy tip for the administration wiki: when listing it in its relevant wiki engine category, use a pipe then a space in the category, eg, for [[MediaWiki]], add <tt><nowiki>[[Category:MediaWiki| ]]</nowiki></tt> at the bottom of the edit box, and this will then list it at the begining of all other category listings.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 07:04, 28 September 2012 (PDT)
A handy tip for the administration wiki: when listing it in its relevant wiki engine category, use a pipe then a space in the category, eg, for [[MediaWiki]], add <tt><nowiki>[[Category:MediaWiki| ]]</nowiki></tt> at the bottom of the edit box, and this will then list it at the begining of all other category listings.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 07:04, 28 September 2012 (PDT)


====wiki farms====
====Wiki farms====
Wiki farms will follow the same format - the basic wiki farm will be a subcategory of  [[:Category:WikiFarm]], the infobox will be rendered via the <tt>{{template|Wiki Farm}}</tt> (now with a green border), and any wikis used for the administration of the said engine will be in the main namespace, eg, for [[Wikkii.com]], add <tt><nowiki>[[Category:Wikkii| ]]</nowiki></tt> at the bottom of the edit box.
Wiki farms will follow the same format - the basic wiki farm will be a subcategory of  [[:Category:Wiki farm]], the infobox will be rendered via the <tt>{{Template|Wiki farm}}</tt> (now with a green border), and any wikis used for the administration of the said engine will be in the main namespace, eg, for [[Wikkii.com]], add <tt><nowiki>[[Category:Wikkii| ]]</nowiki></tt> at the bottom of the edit box.


For those where there is no clear definition of weather it is primarilly a wiki engine or a wiki farm - such as say [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]], use your best judgement as to which template to use for its infobox.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 07:04, 28 September 2012 (PDT)
For those where there is no clear definition of weather it is primarilly a wiki engine or a wiki farm - such as say [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]], use your best judgement as to which template to use for its infobox.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 07:04, 28 September 2012 (PDT)