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'''2008-2009'''
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=— * 2008—2009 * —=
== Questions about this website... ==
==Questions about this website...==
 
Greetings, I am expanding the information on my 'Nationstates' history onto this website though for my rugby league page (PopularFreedom Rugby League) one of your [[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|admins]] noted it was probably best if I put that elsewhere.
Greetings,
 
I am expanding the information on my 'Nationstates' history onto this website though for my rugby league page (PopularFreedom Rugby League) one of your admins noted it was probably best if I put that elsewhere.


Do you wish for me to relocate the entire information to another website or just the rugby stuff?
Do you wish for me to relocate the entire information to another website or just the rugby stuff?


Also, what sites might you recommend?  I currently have a geocities website for my nation but I liked the whole wiki idea for it too.
Also, what sites might you recommend?  I currently have a geocities website for my nation but I liked the whole [[wiki]] idea for it too.


Again, sorry if I have not formatted or done anything here correctly, and if you wish me to move my stuff all good, and apologies for me not following any protocol I might have overlooked
Again, sorry if I have not formatted or done anything here correctly, and if you wish me to move my stuff all good, and apologies for me not following any protocol I might have overlooked
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: ''I just saw your message and replied to you at [[User talk:99.237.166.143]]'' - Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: ''I just saw your message and replied to you at [[User talk:99.237.166.143]]'' - Best, [[MarkDilley]]


== [[Bulbapedia]] database error ==
==[[Bulbapedia]] database error==
I am writing to you about a [[wiki]] i have been trying access for a few days, BULBApedia. It seems anytime you try and access the wiki all i get is:


I am writing to you about a wiki i have been trying access for a few days, BULBApedia. It seems anytime you try and access the wiki all i get is:
Database error - A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: "(SQL query hidden)" from within function "Article::pageData". MySQL returned error "1033: Incorrect information in file: './themozz_mediawiki/page.frm' (localhost)".


Database error
I was wondering if someone can fix this? - Lord Ares
A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
 
    (SQL query hidden)
 
from within function "Article::pageData". MySQL returned error "1033: Incorrect information in file: './themozz_mediawiki/page.frm' (localhost)".
 
I was wondering if someone can fix this?
 
- Lord Ares


: ''do you mean - http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page ?  if so, the contact information I found is: [email protected] - also, you might be able to get some contact information from the people [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3AListusers&username=&group=bureaucrat&limit=50 who run this wiki] -  maybe you could build out their page here on [[WikiIndex]]?  Good luck!  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: ''do you mean - http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page ?  if so, the contact information I found is: [email protected] - also, you might be able to get some contact information from the people [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3AListusers&username=&group=bureaucrat&limit=50 who run this wiki] -  maybe you could build out their page here on [[WikiIndex]]?  Good luck!  Best, [[MarkDilley]]


== make a main page for a wiki ==
==make a main page for a wiki==
 
i've built a wikipedia named [[Nepwiki]] and i want it to have a main page for itself. But i'm having problems in making one. Can you please suggest things i have to do to make a main page. Thank you
i've built a wikipedia named Nepwiki and i want it to have a main page for itself.
But i'm having problems in making one.
Can you please suggest things i have to do to make a main page.
Thank you
 
: I think you may be confusing a wiki page here at [[WikiIndex]] and an actual wiki, does that sound right?  If not, please give me a link to  your wiki. Best, [[MarkDilley]]


== Conservapedia, RationalWiki etc ==
: I think you may be confusing a wiki page here at [[WikiIndex]] and an actual [[wiki]], does that sound right?  If not, please give me a link to  your wiki. Best, [[MarkDilley]]


==Conservapedia, RationalWiki etc==
''... The discussion at [[Talk:The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]] continues here ...''
''... The discussion at [[Talk:The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]] continues here ...''


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But by the time I arrived, it appears that JazzMan, Proxima Centauri, Weaseloid, etc. have already worked out a compromise.
But by the time I arrived, it appears that JazzMan, Proxima Centauri, Weaseloid, etc. have already worked out a compromise.


Is there nothing for me to do here?
Is there nothing for me to do here? Excellent. Good show, people! --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 11:43, 24 November 2008 (EST)
Excellent. Good show, people!
--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 11:43, 24 November 2008 (EST)


:Heh. Not so fast. ;-)
:Heh. Not so fast. ;-)
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:In keeping with Mark Dilley's suggestion, maybe a compromise could be reached by putting Gulik/Proxima Centauri's guidelines for editing on Conservapedia on a page after a "/". --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 01:27, 29 November 2008 (EST)
:In keeping with Mark Dilley's suggestion, maybe a compromise could be reached by putting Gulik/Proxima Centauri's guidelines for editing on Conservapedia on a page after a "/". --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 01:27, 29 November 2008 (EST)


== New category suggested:  Hate Groups ==
==New category suggested:  Hate Groups==
 
For groups like [[Metapedia]] or [[Conservapedia]]. --[[User:Gulik|Gulik]] 21:19, 28 November 2008 (EST)
For groups like Metapedia or Conservapedia. --[[User:Gulik|Gulik]] 21:19, 28 November 2008 (EST)
:I don't think "hate groups" would be the proper name for those [[wiki]]s (although they have strong elements of hate). --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 12:40, 2 December 2008 (EST)
:I don't think "hate groups" would be the proper name for those wikis (although they have strong elements of hate). --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 12:40, 2 December 2008 (EST)
::What would be a better name?  "Delusional Bigots" isn't very "neutral", no matter how accurate it might be. --[[User:Gulik|Gulik]] 15:27, 4 December 2008 (EST)
::What would be a better name?  "Delusional Bigots" isn't very "neutral", no matter how accurate it might be. --[[User:Gulik|Gulik]] 15:27, 4 December 2008 (EST)


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::::: Please give me a little hint as to how to make WikiIndex's article more accurate? Or better yet, please edit WikiIndex article directly to make them more accurate? Thank you. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 11:59, 3 February 2009 (EST)
::::: Please give me a little hint as to how to make WikiIndex's article more accurate? Or better yet, please edit WikiIndex article directly to make them more accurate? Thank you. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 11:59, 3 February 2009 (EST)


== What about foreign language wikis? ==
==What about foreign language wikis?==
 
What do we do about articles where we can't monitor the content because it's in a foreign [[:Category:Wiki Language|language]]?  We need some kind of disclamer. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 08:01, 3 December 2008 (EST)
What do we do about articles where we can't monitor the content because it's in a foreign language?  We need some kind of disclamer. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 08:01, 3 December 2008 (EST)


:Seems like a good idea. What should it say? "The content of this wiki has not been evaluated by a native speaker"? Would we want to attach a date to that statement? Or just let someone look at the article history to figure that out? --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 14:35, 3 December 2008 (EST)
:Seems like a good idea. What should it say? "The content of this wiki has not been evaluated by a native speaker"? Would we want to attach a date to that statement? Or just let someone look at the article history to figure that out? --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 14:35, 3 December 2008 (EST)


:On a related note, should we attempt to wikilink the "language speakers" categories to the "wiki language" categories and vice versa? I'm sure people can figure it out on their own, but maybe it would help prompt non-English speakers to look at articles in the languages they speak. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 14:51, 3 December 2008 (EST)
:On a related note, should we attempt to [[WikiIndex:Wiki Links|wikilink]] the [[:Category:Wiki People by Language|"language speakers" categories]] to the [[:Category:Wiki Language|"wiki language" categories]] and vice versa? I'm sure people can figure it out on their own, but maybe it would help prompt non-English speakers to look at articles in the languages they speak. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 14:51, 3 December 2008 (EST)


== some wiki seem to be blocked ==
==some wiki seem to be blocked==
Dear [[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|active administrators]], I feel that [[WikiIndex]] should index every public [[wiki]].  A few sections above, Gulik mentioned a (infamous?) wiki not yet indexed at WikiIndex, so I went to [[WikiIndex:Community portal|Community Portal]], punched in the name of the wiki, and hit the "Create a new wiki page" button.


Dear active administrators,
After filling in some details and hitting "save", I expected WikiIndex to save and publish my rough draft of information about that wiki. Alas, instead I got this error message:
 
I feel that WikiIndex should index every public wiki.
 
A few sections above, Gulik mentioned a (infamous?) wiki not yet indexed at WikiIndex, so I went to [[Community Portal]], punched in the name of the wiki, and hit the "Create a new wiki page" button.
 
After filling in some details and hitting "save", I expected WikiIndex to save and publish my rough draft of information about that wiki.
 
Alas, instead I got this error message:


: The page you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is probably caused by a link to an external site.
: The page you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is probably caused by a link to an external site.
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: The following text is what triggered our spam filter: ht tp://en.metapedia.org
: The following text is what triggered our spam filter: ht tp://en.metapedia.org


(I've added spaces to mangle the above URLs, since otherwise the spam filter blocks my attempt to talk about them).
(I've added spaces to mangle the above URLs, since otherwise the spam filter blocks my attempt to talk about them). Is this the best place to whine and complain about our local WikiIndex spam filter? [[WikiIndex:AntiSpamMeasures]] seems to be about discussing AntiSpam measures on *other* wiki. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 11:32, 5 December 2008 (EST)
 
Is this the best place to whine and complain about our local WikiIndex spam filter? [[AntiSpamMeasures]] seems to be about discussing AntiSpam measures on *other* wiki.


--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 11:32, 5 December 2008 (EST)
:Well, it wasn't supposed to stop someone like yourself; it was meant to stop vandals, trolls, and spammers from insert Metpedia links everywhere. Unfortunately, the spam filter can't tell the difference between good and bad editors. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 12:23, 5 December 2008 (EST)
:Well, it wasn't supposed to stop someone like yourself; it was meant to stop vandals, trolls, and spammers from insert Metpedia links everywhere. Unfortunately, the spam filter can't tell the difference between good and bad editors. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 12:23, 5 December 2008 (EST)
::Well you could add 'www.metapedia.org' to the [[MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist]] which allows you to add links to that site on any page and if you are worried about people abusing it, which i doubt, then you could temporarily ad it to the white list, create the article then remove it :)..--[[User:Comets|Comets]] 05:34, 7 December 2008 (EST)
::Well you could add 'www.metapedia.org' to the [[MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist]] which allows you to add links to that site on any page and if you are worried about people abusing it, which i doubt, then you could temporarily ad it to the white list, create the article then remove it :)..--[[User:Comets|Comets]] 05:34, 7 December 2008 (EST)


== Do we need this ==
== Do we need this ==
[http://www.wikiindex.org/Image:Lolo12.jpg Do we need this?] [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:05, 10 May 2009 (EDT)
[http://www.wikiindex.org/Image:Lolo12.jpg Do we need this?] [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:05, 10 May 2009 (EDT)
:Don't think so. Kill it with fire. ;) --[[User:Koveras|Koveras]] 12:21, 14 May 2009 (EDT)
:Don't think so. Kill it with fire. ;) --[[User:Koveras|Koveras]] 12:21, 14 May 2009 (EDT)
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== Controversial wikis ==
== Controversial wikis ==
Do we want so much [http://www.wikiindex.org/Special:Contributions/Bob_Birdwatcher Porn]? [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 10:32, 14 May 2009 (EDT)
Do we want so much [http://www.wikiindex.org/Special:Contributions/Bob_Birdwatcher Porn]? [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 10:32, 14 May 2009 (EDT)
:Well, WikiIndex is an index for ''all'' wikis, including those about porn. As long as the descriptions do not actually contain adult content, such entries are fine, in my opinion. Though [[Pornopedia|this one]]'s logo is really stretching it. --[[User:Koveras|Koveras]] 12:21, 14 May 2009 (EDT)
:Well, [[WikiIndex]] is an index for ''all'' [[wiki]]s, including those about [[:Category:Pornography|porn]]. As long as the descriptions do not actually contain adult content, such entries are fine, in my opinion. Though [[Pornopedia|this one]]'s logo is really stretching it. --[[User:Koveras|Koveras]] 12:21, 14 May 2009 (EDT)
::I've deleted the logo. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:40, 14 May 2009 (EDT)
::I've deleted the logo. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:40, 14 May 2009 (EDT)
:::The logo was uploaded a second time and I deleted it again. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:34, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
:::The logo was uploaded a second time and I deleted it again. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:34, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
::::Sorry, I didn't realise it was deleted because of a TOS violation. Please keep in mind that this logo is absolutely not explicit, actually you don't even see a nipple in this picture. In Germany we have probably one of the highest standards when it comes to the protection of minors, and Pornopedia is meeting all required criterias by not providing any offensive image material. Please keep also in mind that the mother of all wikis, Wikipedia, has way more actual porn than we have, like: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DoublePenetration.svg this] or [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ejaculation_educational_ani_short.gif that one]. And no offense, but maybe it would be interesting to hear another opinion of a second admin, maybe one who doesn't [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Talk:Pornopedia&diff=66177&oldid=64894 prefer vandalism to Pornopedia]. Cheers, --[[User:Till Kraemer|Till Kraemer]] 05:03, 24 May 2009 (EDT)
::::Sorry, I didn't realise it was deleted because of a TOS violation. Please keep in mind that this logo is absolutely not explicit, actually you don't even see a nipple in this picture. In [[:Category:Germany|Germany]] we have probably one of the highest standards when it comes to the protection of minors, and [[Pornopedia]] is meeting all required criterias by not providing any offensive image material. Please keep also in mind that the mother of all wikis, [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]], has way more actual porn than we have, like: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DoublePenetration.svg this] or [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ejaculation_educational_ani_short.gif that one]. And no offense, but maybe it would be interesting to hear another opinion of a second admin, maybe one who doesn't [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Talk:Pornopedia&diff=66177&oldid=64894 prefer vandalism to Pornopedia]. Cheers, --[[User:Till Kraemer|Till Kraemer]] 05:03, 24 May 2009 (EDT)


You don't see a nipple but it's obvious that the couple are having sex from behind. Some people are tolerant about that but others find it distressing.  It's hard to find a compromise that satisfies everybody from every culture and all parts of the English speaking world.  I feel since the majority wants to include wikis like Pornpedia allowing information about Pornpedia without actual images is fairly reasonable.  I feel [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Pornopedia&oldid=66179 this revision] was unreasonable as users clicking onto that image came straight to the wiki with yet more images that they may not want to see.  A link to a wiki like that should at least be clearly marked so users don't click onto it unless they want to look at porn. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 07:06, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
You don't see a nipple but it's obvious that the couple are having sex from behind. Some people are tolerant about that but others find it distressing.  It's hard to find a compromise that satisfies everybody from every culture and all parts of the [[:Category:English|English]] speaking world.  I feel since the majority wants to include wikis like Pornpedia allowing information about Pornpedia without actual images is fairly reasonable.  I feel [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Pornopedia&oldid=66179 this revision] was unreasonable as users clicking onto that image came straight to the wiki with yet more images that they may not want to see.  A link to a wiki like that should at least be clearly marked so users don't click onto it unless they want to look at porn. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 07:06, 25 May 2009 (EDT)


:And sex from behind is banned in some states, right? ;) But I agree, it's hard to find a compromise and I don't want to be the source of any trouble. Regarding the linked image, it happens automatically if you hotlink a logo from another server like [[Wikiporno]], so it seems to be kind of intended and you still can watch the status bar of your browser to see where the link is leading, but I have to admit, it's not the usual wiki way that an image links to anywhere else than the file page. Nevermind... Cheers, --[[User:Till Kraemer|Till Kraemer]] 05:10, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
:And sex from behind is banned in some states, right? ;) But I agree, it's hard to find a compromise and I don't want to be the source of any trouble. Regarding the linked image, it happens automatically if you hotlink a logo from another server like [[Wikiporno]], so it seems to be kind of intended and you still can watch the status bar of your browser to see where the link is leading, but I have to admit, it's not the usual wiki way that an image links to anywhere else than the file page. Nevermind... Cheers, --[[User:Till Kraemer|Till Kraemer]] 05:10, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
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Only users who are really computer savvy will know to look at their browser.  I don't mind too much as I'm used to dealing with grossly pornographic vandalism on many wikis but other users may mind.  I think we're agreed, text only for entries on porn wikis. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 06:11, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
Only users who are really computer savvy will know to look at their browser.  I don't mind too much as I'm used to dealing with grossly pornographic vandalism on many wikis but other users may mind.  I think we're agreed, text only for entries on porn wikis. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 06:11, 26 May 2009 (EDT)


:FYI, unless I'm mistaken, you two are both from Germany.
:FYI, unless I'm mistaken, you two are both from [[:Category:Germany|Germany]].


:As for the issue of allowing pornographic images, it's important to remember that while Wikipedia isn't censored, this isn't Wikipedia. Personally, I'm in favor of a little self-censorship. I don't think that the logo is absolutely necessary to know what the site is about. But I'd like to hear other opinions as well. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 20:48, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
:As for the issue of allowing pornographic images, it's important to remember that while [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] isn't censored, this isn't Wikipedia. Personally, I'm in favor of a little self-censorship. I don't think that the logo is absolutely necessary to know what the site is about. But I'd like to hear other opinions as well. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 20:48, 26 May 2009 (EDT)


[http://liberapedia.wikia.com/wiki/User:Proxima_Centauri I'm British], [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:Proxima_Centauri I'm British] here too but we're both from Europe. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 01:37, 27 May 2009 (EDT)
[http://liberapedia.wikia.com/wiki/User:Proxima_Centauri I'm British], [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:Proxima_Centauri I'm British] here too but we're both from Europe. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 01:37, 27 May 2009 (EDT)


:Oops, my mistake! I saw the "Advanced German Speaker" tag and mistook it for a "Native German speaker" tag. Still, I imagine that you would not want to comment on what is banned in American states, as Mr. Kraemer suggests. But perhaps he was referring to nation-states. ;) --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 17:18, 27 May 2009 (EDT)
:Oops, my mistake! I saw the "[[:Category:GermanSpeakers (3)|Advanced German Speaker]]" tag and mistook it for a "[[:Category:GermanSpeakers (N)|Native German speaker]]" tag. Still, I imagine that you would not want to comment on what is banned in American states, as Mr. Kraemer suggests. But perhaps he was referring to nation-states. ;) --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 17:18, 27 May 2009 (EDT)
 
== Is  this OK? ==


==Is this OK?==
[[User:Maritonie]] [http://www.wikiindex.org/Special:Contributions/Maritonie hasn't made useful contributions] but used her userpage and talk page to spam material about herself and this morning she's added 2 more images.  Does it matter? [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 01:49, 6 June 2009 (EDT)
[[User:Maritonie]] [http://www.wikiindex.org/Special:Contributions/Maritonie hasn't made useful contributions] but used her userpage and talk page to spam material about herself and this morning she's added 2 more images.  Does it matter? [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 01:49, 6 June 2009 (EDT)


:Her actions are clearly besides the point of this wiki. On [[Wikipedia]], this is informally known as "vanity edits". Ms. Maritonie definitely needs to be advised about the purpose of this wiki project and how she shouldn't abuse this site to create a shrine to herself. --[[User:Koveras|Koveras]] 13:06, 11 June 2009 (EDT)
:Her actions are clearly besides the point of this wiki. On [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]], this is informally known as "vanity edits". Ms. Maritonie definitely needs to be advised about the purpose of this wiki project and how she shouldn't abuse this site to create a shrine to herself. --[[User:Koveras|Koveras]] 13:06, 11 June 2009 (EDT)


::Should I delete [[Matthew Shadrack]]? [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:07, 12 June 2009 (EDT)
::Should I delete [[Matthew Shadrack]]? [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:07, 12 June 2009 (EDT)
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::::I've deleted it and replaced it with a warning. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 01:24, 13 June 2009 (EDT)
::::I've deleted it and replaced it with a warning. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 01:24, 13 June 2009 (EDT)


== Ingenious spam ==
==Ingenious spam==
 
PrintHouse Corporation -- www<dot>printhouse<dot>co<dot>uk -- made their spam [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=PrintHouse_Corporation&oldid=66862 look like a wiki] so I've put my regular 'anti spam stuff' onto the page and protected it, I won't be bisased in their favour just because they're British.  If I've made a mistake and they're an unusual type of wiki please undo what I've done. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 11:31, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
[http://www.printhouse.co.uk/ PrintHouse Corporation] made their spam [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=PrintHouse_Corporation&oldid=66862 look like a wiki] so I've put my regular [[PrintHouse Corporation|anti spam stuff]] onto the page and protected it, I won't be bisased in their favour just because they're British.  If I've made a mistake and they're an unusual type of wiki please undo what I've done. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 11:31, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
 
== Request for admin intervention ==


==Request for admin intervention==
Please see [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&diff=prev&oldid=66241 this problematic edit] by Proxima Centauri to the article on [[RationalWiki]], which she has since [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&diff=67162&oldid=67161 locked the article] to preserve.  There are several problems with this.
Please see [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&diff=prev&oldid=66241 this problematic edit] by Proxima Centauri to the article on [[RationalWiki]], which she has since [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&diff=67162&oldid=67161 locked the article] to preserve.  There are several problems with this.
 
#It seems brutally disproportionate to mention cyberbullying in a [[WikiIndex]] article when the incident concerned only one or two users and had little lasting impact on the RW community.  I see no similar comments to this in other WikiIndex articles.
1. It seems brutally disproportionate to mention cyberbullying in a WikiIndex article when the incident concerned only one or two users and had little lasting impact on the RW community.  I see no similar comments to this in other WikiIndex articles.
#The "alleged cyberbullying" took place at RationalWikiWiki, not RationalWiki, and the alleged victim was Proxima Centauri herself.  She was invited repeatedly to discuss her complaint in the proper place at RWW, but declined to do so, & is clearly using a WikiIndex as a platform to pursue this grudge instead.
 
#As if this wasn't dubious enough, she has locked the article to prevent others from removing this.  On most [[wiki]]s this sort of thing is regarded as an abuse of administrative privileges.
2. The "alleged cyberbullying" took place at RationalWikiWiki, not RationalWiki, and the alleged victim was Proxima Centauri herself.  She was invited repeatedly to discuss her complaint in the proper place at RWW, but declined to do so, & is clearly using a WikiIndex as a platform to pursue this grudge instead.
#The "alleged cyberbullying" involved only identifying Proxima Centauri with a previous account she had used at RationalWiki, which might or might not have been in her own real name.  If, as she has claimed at RationalWiki, there is a genuine privacy issue surrounding this, it does not seem rational to draw further attention to it at other sites.
 
3. As if this wasn't dubious enough, she has locked the article to prevent others from removing this.  On most wikis this sort of thing is regarded as an abuse of administrative privileges.
 
4. The "alleged cyberbullying" involved only identifying Proxima Centauri with a previous account she had used at RationalWiki, which might or might not have been in her own real name.  If, as she has claimed at RationalWiki, there is a genuine privacy issue surrounding this, it does not seem rational to draw further attention to it at other sites.
 
Somebody relatively neutral, please look into this.  Thank you.  - A concerned RationalWiki editor.  [[User:213.106.29.88|213.106.29.88]] 09:11, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
Somebody relatively neutral, please look into this.  Thank you.  - A concerned RationalWiki editor.  [[User:213.106.29.88|213.106.29.88]] 09:11, 28 June 2009 (EDT)


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:[http://liberapedia.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Ajuk&diff=prev&oldid=21958 Yes] [http://liberapedia.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Ajuk&diff=prev&oldid=22142 you] [http://liberapedia.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Proxima_Centauri&diff=prev&oldid=22003 did].
:[http://liberapedia.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Ajuk&diff=prev&oldid=21958 Yes] [http://liberapedia.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Ajuk&diff=prev&oldid=22142 you] [http://liberapedia.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Proxima_Centauri&diff=prev&oldid=22003 did].


I revealed something because I felt it necessary to deal with a crisis at Liberapedia but I didn't want it splashed around all over the place.  And I don't know how obsessive some trolls were to track that down. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 12:11, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
I revealed something because I felt it necessary to deal with a crisis at [[Liberapedia]] but I didn't want it splashed around all over the place.  And I don't know how obsessive some trolls were to track that down. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 12:11, 28 June 2009 (EDT)


:You're implying that RationalWiki got your real name from a private email or something like that, while in fact that is not true. You used your real name for your original account [http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/User:Barbara_Shack]. Then you tried to hide behind the Proxima Centauri account, but it was painfully obvious to everyone with at least two brain cells that Proxima Centauri = Barbara Shack. Thanks to your attempts to memory-hole your real name on RWW, you brought more attention to it and now thanks to this episode another wiki knows your real name. Congratulations.
:You're implying that RationalWiki got your real name from a private email or something like that, while in fact that is not true. You used your real name for your original account [http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/User:Barbara_Shack]. Then you tried to hide behind the Proxima Centauri account, but it was painfully obvious to everyone with at least two brain cells that Proxima Centauri = Barbara Shack. Thanks to your attempts to memory-hole your real name on RWW, you brought more attention to it and now thanks to this episode another wiki knows your real name. Congratulations.
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== Eh, Peu has it covered (RationalWiki, admin abuse) ==
== Eh, Peu has it covered (RationalWiki, admin abuse) ==
I was going to instate a formal complaint against Proxima Centauri for pursuing a personal vendetta at [[RationalWiki]] and defending her edits by locking the page, but it appears cooler heads are on the scene, so I'll lie back for now. [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 02:50, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
I was going to instate a formal complaint against Proxima Centauri for pursuing a personal vendetta at [[RationalWiki]] and defending her edits by locking the page, but it appears cooler heads are on the scene, so I'll lie back for now. [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 02:50, 2 July 2009 (EDT)


== Admin abuse by Proxima Centauri ==
==Admin abuse by Proxima Centauri==
 
Proxima Centauri is accusing [[RationalWiki]] and [[RationalWikiWiki]] of revealing users' real names. I have asked her to provide evidence on [[Talk:RationalWiki]], her response was to block me and lock the talk page.[http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Proxima+Centauri&page=User%3A67.159.44.55] [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=protect&user=Proxima+Centauri&page=Talk%3ARationalWiki]
Proxima Centauri is accusing [[RationalWiki]] and [[RationalWikiWiki]] of revealing users' real names. I have asked her to provide evidence on [[Talk:RationalWiki]], her response was to block me and lock the talk page.[http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Proxima+Centauri&page=User%3A67.159.44.55] [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=protect&user=Proxima+Centauri&page=Talk%3ARationalWiki]


She claims that RationalWikiWiki revealed her real name, and she attempted to insert this accusation into the RationalWiki article. She locked the article to keep her accusation there even after several people tried to remove it, or make it more neutral. See the [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#Request for admin intervention|section above]]. She is using this wiki as a platform for her revenge ([http://rationalwikiwiki.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leaving_and_never_coming_back&diff=prev&oldid=10804 see this edit]).
She claims that RationalWikiWiki revealed her real name, and she attempted to insert this accusation into the RationalWiki article. She locked the article to keep her accusation there even after several people tried to remove it, or make it more neutral. See the [[#Request for admin intervention|section above]]. She is using this wiki as a platform for her revenge ([http://rationalwikiwiki.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leaving_and_never_coming_back&diff=prev&oldid=10804 see this edit]).


She also abused her admin powers in a content dispute over [[Liberapedia]]. She locked the article for a whole month to keep her version there, and threatened to block me on the talk page.
She also abused her admin powers in a content dispute over [[Liberapedia]]. She locked the article for a whole month to keep her version there, and threatened to block me on the talk page.
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:Did you seriously expect us to sit back and watch as you write falsehoods about RationalWiki on this wiki? Especially since you [http://rationalwikiwiki.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leaving_and_never_coming_back&diff=prev&oldid=10804 pointed us here]? [[User:38.108.111.63|38.108.111.63]] 14:58, 9 July 2009 (EDT)
:Did you seriously expect us to sit back and watch as you write falsehoods about RationalWiki on this wiki? Especially since you [http://rationalwikiwiki.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leaving_and_never_coming_back&diff=prev&oldid=10804 pointed us here]? [[User:38.108.111.63|38.108.111.63]] 14:58, 9 July 2009 (EDT)
::"protected "Talk:RationalWiki" (repeated trolling and harassment. If someone else had been harassed the way I've been I'd probably have blocked the culprits a fortnight ago."  PC should not be a sysop, she is a power hungry concern troll with a very personal agenda she is not afraid to use her "power" here to enforce.  Someone who cares really needs to look into this. I not that [[liberapedia]], one of her pet projects that she keeps trying to whitewash at [[rationalwiki]], is protected as of now.  Why? [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 06:38, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
::"protected "Talk:RationalWiki" (repeated trolling and harassment. If someone else had been harassed the way I've been I'd probably have blocked the culprits a fortnight ago."  PC should not be a sysop, she is a power hungry concern troll with a very personal agenda she is not afraid to use her "power" here to enforce.  Someone who cares really needs to look into this. I not that [[Liberapedia]], one of her pet projects that she keeps trying to whitewash at [[RationalWiki]], is protected as of now.  Why? [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 06:38, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Because I tried to improve it by removing all the unneeded and confusingly written details of their domain name troubles.
:::Because I tried to improve it by removing all the unneeded and confusingly written details of their domain name troubles.


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== Proxima Centauri ==
== Proxima Centauri ==
[[User:Proxima Centauri]] inserted content advertising her own wiki, [[Liberapedia]], into [[RationalWiki]]. I removed that content and improved the article, as well as corrected factual errors. Proxima Centauri reverted everything, blocked me without warning, then locked [[RationalWiki]]. Please unlock [[RationalWiki]], unblock [[User:Nx]] and remove Proxima Centauri's sysops privileges. Thank you. [[User:Nx]]
[[User:Proxima Centauri]] inserted content advertising her own wiki, [[Liberapedia]], into [[RationalWiki]]. I removed that content and improved the article, as well as corrected factual errors. Proxima Centauri reverted everything, blocked me without warning, then locked [[RationalWiki]]. Please unlock [[RationalWiki]], unblock [[User:Nx]] and remove Proxima Centauri's sysops privileges. Thank you. [[User:Nx]]
:She also threatened a block on me when I removed her advertising, though she did not follow it through. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 16:54, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
:She also threatened a block on me when I removed her advertising, though she did not follow it through. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 16:54, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
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I've contributed to the policy discussion but I haven't patrolled recent changes, I'm tired of being insulted, they even feel confident enough to get at those who try and support me. The rest of you will have to deal with recent changes. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 14:43, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
I've contributed to the policy discussion but I haven't patrolled recent changes, I'm tired of being insulted, they even feel confident enough to get at those who try and support me. The rest of you will have to deal with recent changes. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 14:43, 29 August 2009 (EDT)


== No "undo" feature to revert to earlier version? ==
==No "undo" feature to revert to earlier version?==
 
Some vandals seem to have a problem with [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] and choose to wage that battle on [[Dan Dascalescu's Wiki]] (in addition to [[WikiIndex:Community portal|Community Portal]]). I know I can copy/paste the contents of the oldest sane version, but it would be nice to enable that handy "Undo" link. -- [[User:Dandv|dandv]] 05:28, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
Some vandals seem to have a problem with Proxima Centauri and choose to wage that battle on [[Dan_Dascalescu's_Wiki]] (in addition to [[Community Portal]]). I know I can copy/paste the contents of the oldest sane version, but it would be nice to enable that handy "Undo" link. -- [[User:Dandv|dandv]] 05:28, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
:The vandals have a problem with the blocking of [[User:Nx]], who was removing inaccuracies and link spamming from Proxima Centauri on [[RationalWiki]]. She has since protected the article to keep her version in place. Please do not allow the vandal's immature way of handling this matter to let you ignore Proxima's abuse of power. [[User:92.233.174.117|92.233.174.117]] 05:35, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
:The vandals have a problem with the blocking of [[User:Nx]], who was removing inaccuracies and link spamming from Proxima Centauri on [[RationalWiki]]. She has since protected the article to keep her version in place. Please do not allow the vandal's immature way of handling this matter to let you ignore Proxima's abuse of power. [[User:92.233.174.117|92.233.174.117]] 05:35, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
:: "undo" has now been enabled. -- Even before I log in, when I use the "history" tab to select a "diff" page, I see a page with "Revision as of" near the top of the left half, and "(undo)" near the top of the right half. What do you see on your end? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 10:52, 8 September 2009 (EDT)


:: "undo" has now been enabled.
==Blacklist==
:: Even before I log in, when I use the "history" tab to select a "diff" page, I see a page with "Revision as of" near the top of the left half, and "(undo)" near the top of the right half. What do you see on your end? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 10:52, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
 
== Blacklist ==
 
[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Title_Blacklist This] can stop spammers starting pages with certain words like, "buy" though I don't know how to use it. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 11:17, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Title_Blacklist This] can stop spammers starting pages with certain words like, "buy" though I don't know how to use it. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 11:17, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
:It's incompatible with your mediawiki version (1.10), it requires 1.12. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 11:19, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
:It's incompatible with your [[:Category:MediaWiki|mediawiki]] version (1.10), it requires 1.12. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 11:19, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
::Aggh it's all my fault he is gone. Come back Nx. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:59, 8 October 2009 (EDT)
::Aggh it's all my fault he is gone. Come back Nx. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:59, 8 October 2009 (EDT)


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::::What does that mean exactly, Huw? That you don't trust the administration's ability to judge bad behaviour? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:59, 8 October 2009 (EDT)
::::What does that mean exactly, Huw? That you don't trust the administration's ability to judge bad behaviour? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:59, 8 October 2009 (EDT)


== Delete filthy matter ==
==Delete filthy matter==
 
Dear Sir, there is some filthy matter entered in the following page:
Dear Sir,
There is some filthy matter entered in the following page:
   
   
toorupupeta east city - [ Translate this page ]toorupupeta east city this area is famous for prostitutes  
toorupupeta east city - [ Translate this page ]toorupupeta east city this area is famous for prostitutes  
   
   
and below the cooments.
and below the cooments.
   
   
Please delete this page and the matter there in.
Please delete this page and the matter there in. Thanking you, with regards
Thanking you
 
  with regards
:Greetings. Perhaps you missed my first response to this request. This is not [[Wikimapia]], this is [[WikiIndex]]. If you wish to change content on Wikimapia, you need to contact them, not us. We have no control over their content. Thank you and good luck. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 14:32, 7 October 2009 (EDT)


:Greetings. Perhaps you missed my first response to this request. This is not Wikimapia, this is WikiIndex. If you wish to change content on Wikimapia, you need to contact them, not us. We have no control over their content. Thank you and good luck. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 14:32, 7 October 2009 (EDT)
Dear Sir, Please delete this webpage:


Dear Sir,
Prof R N Mohan Rama Devi - [ Translate this page ]Prof RN Mohan Rama Devi An internationally known... wikimapia.org/12398707/Prof-R-N-Mohan-Rama-Devi
Please delete this webpage:
Prof R N Mohan Rama Devi - [ Translate this page ]Prof RN Mohan Rama Devi An internationally known...
wikimapia.org/12398707/Prof-R-N-Mohan-Rama-Devi


:Again, I would like to emphasize that this is not Wikimapia. You are barking up the wrong tree here. If this is a legitimate complaint, please contact http://www.wikimapia.org. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 17:40, 7 October 2009 (EDT)
:Again, I would like to emphasize that this is not [[Wikimapia]]. You are barking up the wrong tree here. If this is a legitimate complaint, please contact http://www.wikimapia.org. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 17:40, 7 October 2009 (EDT)


=== Oct. 12 ===
===Oct. 12===
Dear Sir,<br/>
Dear Sir, as there is filthy mattered entered by a miscreant, please delete this page  
As there is filthy mattered entered by a miscreant, please delete this page  
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Prof R N Mohan Rama Devi - [ Translate this page ]Prof RN Mohan Rama Devi An internationally known...<br/>
Prof R N Mohan Rama Devi - [ Translate this page ]Prof RN Mohan Rama Devi An internationally known... wikimapia.org/12398707
wikimapia.org/12398707
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Looking forward for your earliest action<br/>
Looking forward for your earliest action, regards
regards


::Please report your problem here: http://wikimapia.org/forum/?s=3
::Please report your problem here: http://wikimapia.org/forum/?s=3
::Thank you, [[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 19:57, 12 October 2009 (EDT)
::Thank you, [[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 19:57, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

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