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''... The discussion at [[Talk:The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]] continues here ...'' | ''... The discussion at [[Talk:The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]] continues here ...'' | ||
There’s an [[edit war]] in progress over [[Conservapedia]], [[RationalWiki]], and [[Talk:The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]]. More can be found on the talk pages of all 3 articles and in the page histories. I’m biased in favour of RationalWiki. Conservapedia supporters would like an impartial administrator to intervene. I will try to summarize objectively. | There’s an [[edit war]] in progress over [[Conservapedia]], [[RationalWiki (en)]], and [[Talk:The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]]. More can be found on the talk pages of all 3 articles and in the page histories. I’m biased in favour of RationalWiki. Conservapedia supporters would like an impartial administrator to intervene. I will try to summarize objectively. | ||
#'''RationalWiki point of view:''' Conservapedia deserves the criticism. Conservapedia regularly blocks and deletes dissent on its website. They want to prevent criticism similarly here. There are especially large articles criticizing Conservapedia on Wikiindex because there are special problems with Conservapedia. | #'''RationalWiki point of view:''' Conservapedia deserves the criticism. Conservapedia regularly blocks and deletes dissent on its website. They want to prevent criticism similarly here. There are especially large articles criticizing Conservapedia on Wikiindex because there are special problems with Conservapedia. | ||
#'''Conservapedia point of view:''' RationalWiki are wiki vandals <s>and irresponsible atheists. We struggle to keep our wiki Christian and fundamentalist and</s> RationalWiki vandals cause us constant problems. [As a RationalWikian I feel this criticism is partly true of a few RationalWikians but not all. Some RationalWikians vandalize Conservapedia. The vandals don't think that is wrong because they have such a low opinion of Conservapedia. Atheists are on average as responisble as other people.] These RationalWiki users have created a website to criticise Conservapedia, and have basically been given full editorial privilege to edit the CP page on this wiki. Understandably, the CP page now includes a long criticism section Additionally, much of the RationalWiki page is a criticism of Conservapedia (less so now), and there is an entire additional page ([[Talk:The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]])dedicated to yet more criticisms of Conservapedia. No other wiki has such long prominent criticism and Conservapedia shouldn’t either. Criticism does not seem to be the point of this wiki. If criticism is allowed here, critical sections can spread to other wikis and explode out of control. Some users who appear neutral also feel that criticism shouldn’t be allowed because of this. | #'''Conservapedia point of view:''' RationalWiki are wiki vandals <s>and irresponsible atheists. We struggle to keep our wiki Christian and fundamentalist and</s> RationalWiki vandals cause us constant problems. [As a RationalWikian I feel this criticism is partly true of a few RationalWikians but not all. Some RationalWikians vandalize Conservapedia. The vandals don't think that is wrong because they have such a low opinion of Conservapedia. Atheists are on average as responisble as other people.] These RationalWiki users have created a website to criticise Conservapedia, and have basically been given full editorial privilege to edit the CP page on this wiki. Understandably, the CP page now includes a long criticism section Additionally, much of the RationalWiki page is a criticism of Conservapedia (less so now), and there is an entire additional page ([[Talk:The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]])dedicated to yet more criticisms of Conservapedia. No other wiki has such long prominent criticism and Conservapedia shouldn’t either. Criticism does not seem to be the point of this wiki. If criticism is allowed here, critical sections can spread to other wikis and explode out of control. Some users who appear neutral also feel that criticism shouldn’t be allowed because of this. | ||
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I can understand that folks from Conservapedia don't want the page on [[WikiIndex]] about their wiki to be overrun by criticism - and I can also understand that people want to talk about problems they have with the wiki. Why not take it to a page [[Constructive Criticism of Conservapedia]] and simply make one line / link on the [[Conservapedia]] page pointing to this. ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | I can understand that folks from Conservapedia don't want the page on [[WikiIndex]] about their wiki to be overrun by criticism - and I can also understand that people want to talk about problems they have with the wiki. Why not take it to a page [[Constructive Criticism of Conservapedia]] and simply make one line / link on the [[Conservapedia]] page pointing to this. ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | ||
:I'd be ok with that, if this wiki wants to open itself up for criticism sections. I think it would make sense to remove all criticism from [[RationalWiki]] (as well as [[Conservapedia]], obviously), and delete [[Talk:The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]]. In my greatest dreams, users who have admitted to and condone further vandalism on CP should not be allowed to edit the constructive criticism page, but seeing as how these are likely the only types of people who are going to want to add to the page anyway, I would have to settle for hoping they can keep their critisism fair and verifiable. | :I'd be ok with that, if this wiki wants to open itself up for criticism sections. I think it would make sense to remove all criticism from [[RationalWiki (en)]] (as well as [[Conservapedia]], obviously), and delete [[Talk:The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]]. In my greatest dreams, users who have admitted to and condone further vandalism on CP should not be allowed to edit the constructive criticism page, but seeing as how these are likely the only types of people who are going to want to add to the page anyway, I would have to settle for hoping they can keep their critisism fair and verifiable. | ||
:(There is a third solution here: just put a blurb in the CP article about RationalWiki, a site mainly devoted to criticising Consrvapedia. If users want to hear these criticism, they can hear it from the horses mouth. Err... I mean they can hear it from the horses mouth... while the horse is actually in it's own stable.) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 02:38, 23 November 2008 (EST) | :(There is a third solution here: just put a blurb in the CP article about RationalWiki, a site mainly devoted to criticising Consrvapedia. If users want to hear these criticism, they can hear it from the horses mouth. Err... I mean they can hear it from the horses mouth... while the horse is actually in it's own stable.) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 02:38, 23 November 2008 (EST) | ||
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==Request for admin intervention== | ==Request for admin intervention== | ||
Please see [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&diff=prev&oldid=66241 this problematic edit] by {{U|Proxima Centauri}} to the article on [[RationalWiki]], which she has since [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&diff=67162&oldid=67161 locked the article] to preserve. There are several problems with this. | Please see [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&diff=prev&oldid=66241 this problematic edit] by {{U|Proxima Centauri}} to the article on [[RationalWiki (en)]], which she has since [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&diff=67162&oldid=67161 locked the article] to preserve. There are several problems with this. | ||
#It seems brutally disproportionate to mention cyberbullying in a WikiIndex article when the incident concerned only one or two [[user]]s and had little lasting impact on the RW community. I see no similar comments to this in other WikiIndex articles. | #It seems brutally disproportionate to mention cyberbullying in a WikiIndex article when the incident concerned only one or two [[user]]s and had little lasting impact on the RW community. I see no similar comments to this in other WikiIndex articles. | ||
#The "alleged cyberbullying" took place at [[RationalWikiWiki]], not [[RationalWiki]], and the alleged victim was Proxima Centauri herself. She was invited repeatedly to discuss her complaint in the proper place at RWW, but declined to do so, & is clearly using a WikiIndex as a platform to pursue this grudge instead. | #The "alleged cyberbullying" took place at [[RationalWikiWiki]], not [[RationalWiki (en)]], and the alleged victim was Proxima Centauri herself. She was invited repeatedly to discuss her complaint in the proper place at RWW, but declined to do so, & is clearly using a WikiIndex as a platform to pursue this grudge instead. | ||
#As if this wasn't dubious enough, she has locked the article to prevent others from removing this. On most [[wiki]]s this sort of thing is regarded as an abuse of administrative privileges. | #As if this wasn't dubious enough, she has locked the article to prevent others from removing this. On most [[wiki]]s this sort of thing is regarded as an abuse of administrative privileges. | ||
#The "alleged cyberbullying" involved only identifying Proxima Centauri with a previous account she had used at RationalWiki, which might or might not have been in her own real name. If, as she has claimed at RationalWiki, there is a genuine privacy issue surrounding this, it does not seem rational to draw further attention to it at other sites. | #The "alleged cyberbullying" involved only identifying Proxima Centauri with a previous account she had used at RationalWiki, which might or might not have been in her own real name. If, as she has claimed at RationalWiki, there is a genuine privacy issue surrounding this, it does not seem rational to draw further attention to it at other sites. | ||
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I have a serious complaint that my privacy wasn't respected and you call that a smear. That's the type of attitude I'd have found if I'd tried to discuss it. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 10:58, 28 June 2009 (EDT) | I have a serious complaint that my privacy wasn't respected and you call that a smear. That's the type of attitude I'd have found if I'd tried to discuss it. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 10:58, 28 June 2009 (EDT) | ||
:Then why did you post the link to that edit on RWW? The claims that you make on the [[RationalWiki]] article are false, and you must've known that people would come here to defend RW. And once again: '''IT WAS YOU WHO REVEALED YOUR NAME, NOT RATIONALWIKIWIKI'''. | :Then why did you post the link to that edit on RWW? The claims that you make on the [[RationalWiki (en)]] article are false, and you must've known that people would come here to defend RW. And once again: '''IT WAS YOU WHO REVEALED YOUR NAME, NOT RATIONALWIKIWIKI'''. | ||
I didn't reveal my name, RationalWikiWiki did. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 11:49, 28 June 2009 (EDT) | I didn't reveal my name, RationalWikiWiki did. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 11:49, 28 June 2009 (EDT) | ||
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:::::::On most wikis, Proxima Centauri would be stripped of her [[sysop]] rights and barred from editing both articles. She is using this wiki and her sysop rights to pursue this grudge, which is an abuse of privileges. The sentence "Potential users may want to start accounts with usernames that can't be recognised at other websites." which I removed and which she insist on keeping in the article (and uses he sysop rights to keep there), has nothing to do with the issue. Even if she had used a different account on other wikis, her real name would've been revealed, since '''she created an account with her real name''' and then she executed her little vanishing act badly. Her complaints and demands just confirmed the connection between her two accounts, and her further attempts at pursuing this issue have made things even worse (e.g. now this wiki knows her real name too). Furthermore, she linked to her accounts on other wikis on her [[user page]]: using a different [[username]] wouldn't have helped there either. I'm sorry, but you can't have your cake and eat it too. Either accept that people will look you up on other sites if you give a link, and maybe even write it down somewhere (e.g. a wiki article about you), or don't make that connection. | :::::::On most wikis, Proxima Centauri would be stripped of her [[sysop]] rights and barred from editing both articles. She is using this wiki and her sysop rights to pursue this grudge, which is an abuse of privileges. The sentence "Potential users may want to start accounts with usernames that can't be recognised at other websites." which I removed and which she insist on keeping in the article (and uses he sysop rights to keep there), has nothing to do with the issue. Even if she had used a different account on other wikis, her real name would've been revealed, since '''she created an account with her real name''' and then she executed her little vanishing act badly. Her complaints and demands just confirmed the connection between her two accounts, and her further attempts at pursuing this issue have made things even worse (e.g. now this wiki knows her real name too). Furthermore, she linked to her accounts on other wikis on her [[user page]]: using a different [[username]] wouldn't have helped there either. I'm sorry, but you can't have your cake and eat it too. Either accept that people will look you up on other sites if you give a link, and maybe even write it down somewhere (e.g. a wiki article about you), or don't make that connection. | ||
::::::::I unprotected both articles, {{U|Proxima Centauri}} seems not to be interested in joining this talk again. --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 13:29, 29 June 2009 (EDT) | ::::::::I unprotected both articles, {{U|Proxima Centauri}} seems not to be interested in joining this talk again. --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 13:29, 29 June 2009 (EDT) | ||
:::::::::I am interested in this but I felt I needed time to think things over. There are people who could have real big problems with their employers, with their families, with political or religious nuts in their area if their real names came out. I'm not in such a difficult position which is why I could risk it coming out further but I think people should be warned that this can happen. I've put the information into both the [[RationalWiki]] and [[RationalWikiWiki]] articles, there may be a case for altering the wording as I haven't spent much time thinking of a tactful way of putting things, I'm still a bit upset over this. I think the information should stay. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 14:42, 29 June 2009 (EDT) | :::::::::I am interested in this but I felt I needed time to think things over. There are people who could have real big problems with their employers, with their families, with political or religious nuts in their area if their real names came out. I'm not in such a difficult position which is why I could risk it coming out further but I think people should be warned that this can happen. I've put the information into both the [[RationalWiki (en)]] and [[RationalWikiWiki]] articles, there may be a case for altering the wording as I haven't spent much time thinking of a tactful way of putting things, I'm still a bit upset over this. I think the information should stay. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 14:42, 29 June 2009 (EDT) | ||
Perhaps "Potential users may want to start accounts with usernames that can't be recognised at other websites" should be added to ''every'' article on this wiki? Although, as the one who appears to be being accused of the "cyberbullying" in at least an oblique fashion, perhaps my comments should be taken with a grain of salt. [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 19:13, 29 June 2009 (EDT) | Perhaps "Potential users may want to start accounts with usernames that can't be recognised at other websites" should be added to ''every'' article on this wiki? Although, as the one who appears to be being accused of the "cyberbullying" in at least an oblique fashion, perhaps my comments should be taken with a grain of salt. [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 19:13, 29 June 2009 (EDT) | ||
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==Eh, Peu has it covered (RationalWiki, admin abuse)== | ==Eh, Peu has it covered (RationalWiki, admin abuse)== | ||
I was going to instate a formal complaint against {{U|Proxima Centauri}} for pursuing a personal vendetta at [[RationalWiki]] and defending her edits by locking the page, but it appears cooler heads are on the scene, so I'll lie back for now. [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 02:50, 2 July 2009 (EDT) | I was going to instate a formal complaint against {{U|Proxima Centauri}} for pursuing a personal vendetta at [[RationalWiki (en)]] and defending her edits by locking the page, but it appears cooler heads are on the scene, so I'll lie back for now. [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 02:50, 2 July 2009 (EDT) | ||
==Admin abuse by Proxima Centauri== | ==Admin abuse by Proxima Centauri== | ||
{{U|Proxima Centauri}} is accusing [[RationalWiki]] and [[RationalWikiWiki]] of revealing users' real names. I have asked her to provide evidence on [[Talk:RationalWiki]], her response was to block me and lock the talk page.[https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Proxima+Centauri&page=User%3A67.159.44.55] [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=protect&user=Proxima+Centauri&page=Talk%3ARationalWiki] | {{U|Proxima Centauri}} is accusing [[RationalWiki (en)]] and [[RationalWikiWiki]] of revealing users' real names. I have asked her to provide evidence on [[Talk:RationalWiki (en)]], her response was to block me and lock the talk page.[https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Proxima+Centauri&page=User%3A67.159.44.55] [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=protect&user=Proxima+Centauri&page=Talk%3ARationalWiki] | ||
She claims that [[RationalWikiWiki]] revealed her real name, and she attempted to insert this accusation into the [[RationalWiki]] article. She locked the article to keep her accusation there even after several people tried to remove it, or make it more neutral. See the [[#Request for admin intervention|section above]]. She is using this wiki as a platform for her revenge ([http://RationalWikiWiki.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leaving_and_never_coming_back&diff=prev&oldid=10804 see this edit]). | She claims that [[RationalWikiWiki]] revealed her real name, and she attempted to insert this accusation into the [[RationalWiki (en)]] article. She locked the article to keep her accusation there even after several people tried to remove it, or make it more neutral. See the [[#Request for admin intervention|section above]]. She is using this wiki as a platform for her revenge ([http://RationalWikiWiki.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leaving_and_never_coming_back&diff=prev&oldid=10804 see this edit]). | ||
She also abused her admin powers in a content dispute over [[Liberapedia]]. She locked the article for a whole month to keep her version there, and threatened to block me on the talk page. | She also abused her admin powers in a content dispute over [[Liberapedia]]. She locked the article for a whole month to keep her version there, and threatened to block me on the talk page. | ||
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That lot have been trolling and harassing me for over a fortnight and I'm tired of doing nothingg. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 14:53, 9 July 2009 (EDT) | That lot have been trolling and harassing me for over a fortnight and I'm tired of doing nothingg. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 14:53, 9 July 2009 (EDT) | ||
:Did you seriously expect us to sit back and watch as you write falsehoods about [[RationalWiki]] on this wiki? Especially since you [http://RationalWikiWiki.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leaving_and_never_coming_back&diff=prev&oldid=10804 pointed us here]? [[Special:Contributions/38.108.111.63|38.108.111.63]] 14:58, 9 July 2009 (EDT) | :Did you seriously expect us to sit back and watch as you write falsehoods about [[RationalWiki (en)]] on this wiki? Especially since you [http://RationalWikiWiki.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leaving_and_never_coming_back&diff=prev&oldid=10804 pointed us here]? [[Special:Contributions/38.108.111.63|38.108.111.63]] 14:58, 9 July 2009 (EDT) | ||
::"protected "[[Talk:RationalWiki]]" (repeated trolling and harassment. If someone else had been harassed the way I've been I'd probably have blocked the culprits a fortnight ago." PC should not be a sysop, she is a power hungry concern troll with a very personal agenda she is not afraid to use her "power" here to enforce. Someone who cares really needs to look into this. I not that [[Liberapedia]], one of her pet projects that she keeps trying to whitewash at [[RationalWiki]], is protected as of now. Why? [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 06:38, 12 July 2009 (EDT) | ::"protected "[[Talk:RationalWiki (en)]]" (repeated trolling and harassment. If someone else had been harassed the way I've been I'd probably have blocked the culprits a fortnight ago." PC should not be a sysop, she is a power hungry concern troll with a very personal agenda she is not afraid to use her "power" here to enforce. Someone who cares really needs to look into this. I not that [[Liberapedia]], one of her pet projects that she keeps trying to whitewash at [[RationalWiki (en)]], is protected as of now. Why? [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 06:38, 12 July 2009 (EDT) | ||
:::Because I tried to improve it by removing all the unneeded and confusingly written details of their domain name troubles. | :::Because I tried to improve it by removing all the unneeded and confusingly written details of their domain name troubles. | ||
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==Proxima Centauri== | ==Proxima Centauri== | ||
[[User:Proxima Centauri]] inserted content advertising her own wiki, [[Liberapedia]], into [[RationalWiki]]. I removed that content and improved the article, as well as corrected factual errors. Proxima Centauri reverted everything, blocked me without warning, then locked [[RationalWiki]]. Please unlock [[RationalWiki]], unblock [[User:Nx]] and remove Proxima Centauri's sysops privileges. Thank you. [[User:Nx]] | [[User:Proxima Centauri]] inserted content advertising her own wiki, [[Liberapedia]], into [[RationalWiki (en)]]. I removed that content and improved the article, as well as corrected factual errors. Proxima Centauri reverted everything, blocked me without warning, then locked [[RationalWiki (en)]]. Please unlock [[RationalWiki (en)]], unblock [[User:Nx]] and remove Proxima Centauri's sysops privileges. Thank you. [[User:Nx]] | ||
:She also threatened a block on me when I removed her advertising, though she did not follow it through. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 16:54, 23 August 2009 (EDT) | :She also threatened a block on me when I removed her advertising, though she did not follow it through. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 16:54, 23 August 2009 (EDT) | ||
::I placed the following comment on a "real" admin's talk page: "Once more, Proxima is abusing her admin rights at [[RationalWiki]]. She has locked the article, and is taking advantage of RW being down to spam pointless links to her own pet wiki, [[Liberapedia]]. She also [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Proxima+Centauri&page= blocked a user] (Nx) for correcting her incompetence. I repeat, she is a power-mad authoritarian with very poor language and comprehension skills. (I can footnote those accusations if necessary). [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 00:59, 24 August 2009 (EDT)" If this wiki is unable to even address its own drastic shortcomings (mostly consisting of admining block-happy, protect-happy control freaks like PC), how can it claim to report on others? [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 01:04, 24 August 2009 (EDT) | ::I placed the following comment on a "real" admin's talk page: "Once more, Proxima is abusing her admin rights at [[RationalWiki (en)]]. She has locked the article, and is taking advantage of RW being down to spam pointless links to her own pet wiki, [[Liberapedia]]. She also [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Proxima+Centauri&page= blocked a user] (Nx) for correcting her incompetence. I repeat, she is a power-mad authoritarian with very poor language and comprehension skills. (I can footnote those accusations if necessary). [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 00:59, 24 August 2009 (EDT)" If this wiki is unable to even address its own drastic shortcomings (mostly consisting of admining block-happy, protect-happy control freaks like PC), how can it claim to report on others? [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 01:04, 24 August 2009 (EDT) | ||
:::Proxima Centauri says "It can be a shock when a user doesn’t know that he/she is committing a blockable offense and suddenly is looking at a ban window." Ironic, isn't it? [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 01:05, 24 August 2009 (EDT) | :::Proxima Centauri says "It can be a shock when a user doesn’t know that he/she is committing a blockable offense and suddenly is looking at a ban window." Ironic, isn't it? [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 01:05, 24 August 2009 (EDT) | ||
::::She has also protected [[Liberapedia]] for a whole month, after I reworded her <s>paragraph</s> string of character that barely make sense detailing the domain name issue. | ::::She has also protected [[Liberapedia]] for a whole month, after I reworded her <s>paragraph</s> string of character that barely make sense detailing the domain name issue. | ||
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==No "undo" feature to revert to earlier version?== | ==No "undo" feature to revert to earlier version?== | ||
Some [[vandal]]s seem to have a problem with [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] and choose to wage that battle on [[Dan Dascalescu's Wiki]] (in addition to [[WikiIndex:Community portal|Community portal]]). I know I can copy/paste the contents of the oldest sane version, but it would be nice to enable that handy "Undo" link. -- [[User talk:Dandv|dandv]] 05:28, 24 August 2009 (EDT) | Some [[vandal]]s seem to have a problem with [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] and choose to wage that battle on [[Dan Dascalescu's Wiki]] (in addition to [[WikiIndex:Community portal|Community portal]]). I know I can copy/paste the contents of the oldest sane version, but it would be nice to enable that handy "Undo" link. -- [[User talk:Dandv|dandv]] 05:28, 24 August 2009 (EDT) | ||
:The vandals have a problem with the blocking of [[User:Nx]], who was removing inaccuracies and link [[spam]]ming from Proxima Centauri on [[RationalWiki]]. She has since protected the article to keep her version in place. Please do not allow the vandal's immature way of handling this matter to let you ignore Proxima's abuse of power. [[Special:Contributions/92.233.174.117|92.233.174.117]] 05:35, 24 August 2009 (EDT) | :The vandals have a problem with the blocking of [[User:Nx]], who was removing inaccuracies and link [[spam]]ming from Proxima Centauri on [[RationalWiki (en)]]. She has since protected the article to keep her version in place. Please do not allow the vandal's immature way of handling this matter to let you ignore Proxima's abuse of power. [[Special:Contributions/92.233.174.117|92.233.174.117]] 05:35, 24 August 2009 (EDT) | ||
:: "undo" has now been enabled. -- Even before I log in, when I use the "history" tab to select a "diff" page, I see a page with "Revision as of" near the top of the left half, and "(undo)" near the top of the right half. What do you see on your end? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 10:52, 8 September 2009 (EDT) | :: "undo" has now been enabled. -- Even before I log in, when I use the "history" tab to select a "diff" page, I see a page with "Revision as of" near the top of the left half, and "(undo)" near the top of the right half. What do you see on your end? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 10:52, 8 September 2009 (EDT) | ||