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Hi Hoof Hearted, <br>I think that it is not a good idea to "tidy" user-namespace or discussion pages. And the spaces between <code>== Headline ==</code> and headline markup can help recognizing the article structure faster (for me it is like this). <br/> | Hi Hoof Hearted, <br>I think that it is not a good idea to "tidy" user-namespace or discussion pages. And the spaces between <code>== Headline ==</code> and headline markup can help recognizing the article structure faster (for me it is like this). <br/> | ||
Best regards. [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 03:47, 2 January 2012 (PST) | Best regards. [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 03:47, 2 January 2012 (PST) | ||
:Hi Wolf – and Happy New Year to you :) In trying to 'improve' [[WikiIndex]], particularly in the internal '[[ | :Hi Wolf – and Happy New Year to you :) In trying to 'improve' [[WikiIndex]], particularly in the internal '[[wikilink]]s' aspect, I've been reading talk pages to see which way discussions and concensus was heading – but many seemed devioid of wikilinks (maybe because these were shortly after the 'birth' of WikiIndex, and said pages and/or templates had yet to be created)! The tidying is primarily adding these wikilinks (which are one of the fundamentals of a 'good' wiki, help prevent duplicate entries being created, and give pointers to future readers of talk pages); and the removal of excessive whitespace – with the aid of the <code><nowiki>{{TOCright}}</nowiki></code> (excessive whitespace is a pain in the rear on low resolution or smaller monitor screens such as netbooks, tablets (iPads and the likes) and smartphones - because you end up having to scroll excessively).<br> | ||
:I do not understand your concern over this: <code>== Headline ==</code> – and the different effects it creates between this: <code>==Headline==</code> ?? I ''was'' aware of some older browsers (particularly early Firefox versions) had problems rendering certain web codes – but I thought those issues had been resolved! I personally use either IE8, Comodo Dragon 16 (based on Google Chrome) or Firefox 8.0 – and don't have any issues of display rendering. Perhaps I have mis-understood, if I have, would you be kind enough to explain further. – Best regards, --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 06:54, 2 January 2012 (PST) | :I do not understand your concern over this: <code>== Headline ==</code> – and the different effects it creates between this: <code>==Headline==</code> ?? I ''was'' aware of some older browsers (particularly early Firefox versions) had problems rendering certain web codes – but I thought those issues had been resolved! I personally use either IE8, Comodo Dragon 16 (based on Google Chrome) or Firefox 8.0 – and don't have any issues of display rendering. Perhaps I have mis-understood, if I have, would you be kind enough to explain further. – Best regards, --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 06:54, 2 January 2012 (PST) | ||
:: Regarding the space next to the headings: I referred to wikitext readability, not HTML rendering. ...and Happy New Year to ''you'' :-) <br/> Best regards [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 13:11, 3 January 2012 (PST) | :: Regarding the space next to the headings: I referred to wikitext readability, not HTML rendering. ...and Happy New Year to ''you'' :-) <br/> Best regards [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 13:11, 3 January 2012 (PST) | ||
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==userspace edits== | ==userspace edits== | ||
Hi Hoof Hearted,<br>as I have already indicated, in my opinion, there is hardly any change in the competence of other users that are so urgent that it can not be left to them. I would prefer to send them a message about it at first, i.e. I question the value of [ | Hi Hoof Hearted,<br>as I have already indicated, in my opinion, there is hardly any change in the competence of other users that are so urgent that it can not be left to them. I would prefer to send them a message about it at first, i.e. I question the value of [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=User%3AWikademia&action=historysubmit&diff=92219&oldid=74372 changes like this]. Best regards, [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 03:08, 10 January 2012 (PST) | ||
==Broken language templates [fixed]== | ==Broken language templates [fixed]== | ||
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==When changing to inactive template== | ==When changing to inactive template== | ||
You don't need to deal with any of the other fields if you don't want to - they are all deactivated. [ | You don't need to deal with any of the other fields if you don't want to - they are all deactivated. [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Jargon_Wiki&curid=5552&diff=93198&oldid=39313&rcid=104701 ref]. Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
: I am afraid that such changes break the whole semantic framework introduced last year. I strongly recommend not changing the property names. I hope that only a few of such changes occured since they do more damage than good. Cheers --[[User:Kghbln|[[kgh]]]] 12:17, 2 February 2012 (PST) | : I am afraid that such changes break the whole semantic framework introduced last year. I strongly recommend not changing the property names. I hope that only a few of such changes occured since they do more damage than good. Cheers --[[User:Kghbln|[[kgh]]]] 12:17, 2 February 2012 (PST) | ||
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==question about protection of page== | ==question about protection of page== | ||
Hi, curious why you think there is a need to [ | Hi, curious why you think there is a need to [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex%3ACommunity_portal&diff=139417&oldid=127437 protect this page]? I don't see it being [[vandal]]ized, and even if it was, I don't see it as a problem in normal Recent Changes patrolling fixes. Look forward to your thoughts on that. Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
: Hi Mark. It was already protected by TeraS ([ | : Hi Mark. It was already protected by TeraS ([https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex:Community_portal&diff=86778&oldid=86744 here]) - all I changed was the 'move' function to sysops only. Registered users can still edit it as before, they just now can't move it. And I have to confess, I often 'forget' to check the RecentChanges . . . I suppose we all work in different ways. Anyway, if you wish, I can revert my change in protection. Best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 14:21, 31 August 2012 (PDT) | ||
Many thanks for the update! :-) I missed that it was previously protected - no worries - if I feel like I want to unprotect the whole thing later, I will just be bold :-) RecentChanges is pretty much the first thing I read on most wiki! :-) Best, [[MarkDilley]] | Many thanks for the update! :-) I missed that it was previously protected - no worries - if I feel like I want to unprotect the whole thing later, I will just be bold :-) RecentChanges is pretty much the first thing I read on most wiki! :-) Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
Here is another [ | Here is another [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Category:All&action=history question] for me. Doesn't look like that page has been [[spam]]med very much, curious about your thinking. Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
: That was spammed really badly on [ | : That was spammed really badly on [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Category:All&diff=120899&oldid=84941 April 2012] (a really massive amount of spam links), and then five times in 2007 - all by [[IP editor]]s. Granted, I agree it hasn't been spammed 'much' recently - but I feel that [[:Category:All]] is a 'major' category - effectively a 'front door' to WikiIndex, and it is for this latter reason why I personally think this needs protection (and it is only protected from IP editors - regular logged-in users can still edit). IMVHO - there are just some crucial pages which we should pre-emtively protect. And don't the regular sysops on here have a hard-enough time in keeping on top of the spammers? :-/ [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 08:48, 8 September 2012 (PDT) | ||
: For me, an [[OpenEdit]] [[wiki]] is extremely important. I personally think an open door to new editors is important - that said, I will be fine leaving it protected for now. Cheers, [[MarkDilley]] | : For me, an [[OpenEdit]] [[wiki]] is extremely important. I personally think an open door to new editors is important - that said, I will be fine leaving it protected for now. Cheers, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
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Hi Hoof Hearted, | Hi Hoof Hearted, | ||
I just noticed that <span class= | I just noticed that <span class=plainlinks>[https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Category%3AHousekeeping_templates&diff=139604&oldid=49446 you are '''active]</span> again'''. Thats great :-) <br> Currently, I've unfortunally not much time for WikiIndex. Best regards, [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 00:32, 6 September 2012 (PDT) | ||
: Hi Wolf, Vielen Dank für den Dank :-) Good to see that someone is monitoring my work here! Sadly, some real-life challenges have gotten in the way of me spending more time here on WikiIndex . . . hopefully I have some of them back under control now! Herzliche Grüße --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 01:01, 6 September 2012 (PDT) | : Hi Wolf, Vielen Dank für den Dank :-) Good to see that someone is monitoring my work here! Sadly, some real-life challenges have gotten in the way of me spending more time here on WikiIndex . . . hopefully I have some of them back under control now! Herzliche Grüße --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 01:01, 6 September 2012 (PDT) | ||
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==Blocking old IPs== | ==Blocking old IPs== | ||
It's been 5 years since any of those IPs vandalized the site, so there is pretty much no chance that they are used by the same person. I personally don't think IP | It's been 5 years since any of those IPs vandalized the site, so there is pretty much no chance that they are used by the same person. I personally don't think [[IP address]]es should be banned for more then a month unless there is persistent vandalism over a very long period of time from it. | ||
As for Plasmarelais, I don't think there was any malicious intent involved there - the redirect worked because of the site's [[Special:interwiki|interwiki]] feature. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''' 14 September 2012 | As for Plasmarelais, I don't think there was any malicious intent involved there - the redirect worked because of the site's [[Special:interwiki|interwiki]] feature. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''' 14 September 2012 | ||
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==You're absolutely right== | ==You're absolutely right== | ||
with [ | with [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Template%3AWiki&diff=142069&oldid=142011 your change]! My simple goal was only to prevent clashes between text and the infobox. Thanks! --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 05:10, 12 October 2012 (PDT) | ||
:Thanks :) We really need an updated screenshot which shows licenses and backup links. :/ | :Thanks :) We really need an updated screenshot which shows licenses and backup links. :/ | ||
:: Pardon, I don't understand what you mean. Can you give me a further hint? --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 05:36, 12 October 2012 (PDT) | :: Pardon, I don't understand what you mean. Can you give me a further hint? --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 05:36, 12 October 2012 (PDT) | ||
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==Are you the owner?== | ==Are you the owner?== | ||
I have a question. [[User:Inquisitor Ehrenstein|Inquisitor Ehrenstein]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor Ehrenstein|talk]]) 14:09, 18 October 2012 (PDT) | I have a question. [[User:Inquisitor Ehrenstein|Inquisitor Ehrenstein]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor Ehrenstein|talk]]) 14:09, 18 October 2012 (PDT) | ||
:Nah, I'm just a lowly sysop! :p [[MarkDilley]] is the owner of WikiIndex. Any of the [[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|active sysops]] should be able to answer general questions, so you can try me if you like, or leave Mark a message if you prefer. Best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 01:49, 19 October 2012 (PDT) | :Nah, I'm just a lowly sysop! :p [[MarkDilley]] is the [[owner]] of WikiIndex. Any of the [[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|active sysops]] should be able to answer general questions, so you can try me if you like, or leave Mark a message if you prefer. Best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 01:49, 19 October 2012 (PDT) | ||
==think their edit was ok== | ==think their edit was ok== | ||
It was on their account page, showed who there were - so I think this edit your [ | It was on their account page, showed who there were - so I think this edit your [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=User:Espartannoble6&diff=0&oldid=127477 reverted] was ok. :-) My two cents. Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
==Tags etc== | ==Tags etc== | ||
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==[[Special:ReplaceText]]== | ==[[Special:ReplaceText]]== | ||
If you want to replace MediaWiki with Wikia as the engine in all [[:category: | If you want to replace MediaWiki with Wikia as the engine in all [[:category:Wikia|wikia]] articles then that is the feature to use, there's no reason to mess around with bots. | ||
:[[Special:ReplaceText]] will only work on one string of text - my issue would need to look at two strings, but replace just one . . . so I can't see how that would work????? Or have I missed something? :/ <<<confused.com>>> | :[[Special:ReplaceText]] will only work on one string of text - my issue would need to look at two strings, but replace just one . . . so I can't see how that would work????? Or have I missed something? :/ <<<confused.com>>> | ||
Frankly I don't see how Wikia counts as its own engine however, it's just MediaWiki with an ugly skin and some features. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''' 24 November 2012 | Frankly I don't see how Wikia counts as its own engine however, it's just MediaWiki with an ugly skin and some features. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''' 24 November 2012 | ||
:Wikia ''may'' be based on MediaWiki, but it is so uniquely modified to the extent that no other host or provider can display the same as Wikia - hence why it should be differenciated from traditional MediaWiki sites. MediaWiki has spawned many clones (and not all MediaWiki look-alikes are written in [[:Category:PHP|PHP]]), and those are recognised as a [[:Category:Wiki Engine|wiki engine]] in their own right. Indeed, [[WikiMatrix]] now lists Wikia as a separate engine [ | :Wikia ''may'' be based on MediaWiki, but it is so uniquely modified to the extent that no other host or provider can display the same as Wikia - hence why it should be differenciated from traditional MediaWiki sites. MediaWiki has spawned many clones (and not all MediaWiki look-alikes are written in [[:Category:PHP|PHP]]), and those are recognised as a [[:Category:Wiki Engine|wiki engine]] in their own right. Indeed, [[WikiMatrix]] now lists Wikia as a separate engine [https://www.WikiMatrix.org/wiki/Wikia:intro here] (sadly, WikiMatrix seems offline at the moment). To list all individual Wikia wikis in the [[:category:MediaWiki]] is highly distorting, especially to those genuine MediaWiki sites, and especially when [[user:emijrp|emijrp]] finishes his bot trawl through all 200,000 Wikias. IMVHO, I would suggest that it is best to index Wikia wikis under a Wikia wiki engine (especially as there are over 200,000 of them!), and keep the Wikia category a sub-category of MediaWiki. Best regards, --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 00:56, 25 November 2012 (PST) | ||
==Data== | ==Data== | ||
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==[[WikiMANNia]]== | ==[[WikiMANNia]]== | ||
Thank you for your work! --[[Special:Contributions/79.246.243.144|79.246.243.144]] 23:53, 1 December 2012 (PST) | Thank you for your work! --[[Special:Contributions/79.246.243.144|79.246.243.144]] 23:53, 1 December 2012 (PST) | ||
:Your welcome. Does WikiMANNia have a 'portal' page which signposts to individual language wikis, similar to say | :Your welcome. Does WikiMANNia have a 'portal' page which signposts to individual language wikis, similar to say https://www.Wikibooks.org ?? --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 04:32, 2 December 2012 (PST) | ||
::At the moment not. Spanish, italian and english versions are still mostly empty. We need a little bit more time. --[[Special:Contributions/79.246.249.143|79.246.249.143]] 15:06, 5 December 2012 (PST) | ::At the moment not. Spanish, italian and english versions are still mostly empty. We need a little bit more time. --[[Special:Contributions/79.246.249.143|79.246.249.143]] 15:06, 5 December 2012 (PST) | ||