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:That doesn't need a bot, it just needs the [[Special:ReplaceText]] feature.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 07:39, 9 May 2017 (PDT)
:That doesn't need a bot, it just needs the [[Special:ReplaceText]] feature.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 07:39, 9 May 2017 (PDT)


::I see, the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Replace_Text Extension:Replace Text] would do I think. --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 08:38, 9 May 2017 (PDT)
::I see, the [[mw:Extension:Replace Text|Extension:Replace Text]] would do I think. --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 08:38, 9 May 2017 (PDT)
 
:::Nice spotting, Manorainjan. And thanks, Sean for doing this. Alternately, AWB would do the trick. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 08:44, 9 May 2017 (PDT)
:::Nice spotting, Manorainjan. And thanks, Sean for doing this. Alternately, AWB would do the trick. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 08:44, 9 May 2017 (PDT)
::::I was surprised, that Sean did it in a minute, because I thought, the definition would require some regex and therefore a little more thinking. On purpose I wrote about diff-links. There are a number of other mentioning of the .com, which are not diff-links and where the change does not make sense, rather distorts the meaning. [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk:145.253.208.20&diff=prev&oldid=197971 Example]. --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 09:54, 9 May 2017 (PDT)
:::::[[Special:ReplaceText]] is a fantastic extension, very easy to use, and very 'targetable'!  Specifically, when I set it to run, I selected only [[Talk page]]s in all [[WikiIndex:Namespace conventions|namespace]]s.  I've never used [[wp:Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser|AutoWikiBrowser]] (AWB), so I can't comment, however, I suspect AWB would need specific configuration.  The really funky thing about ReplaceText is once you have set it running, it will 'poll' before making changes (to prevent an [[edit conflict]]), and will pause itself, and restart automatically.  Obviously, nothing is perfect, and for the rare individual examples as highlighted by Manor, a simple [[undo]] - with the reason for [[revert]]ing in the [[edit summary]].  Love it for its simplicity and effectiveness!  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 10:33, 9 May 2017 (PDT)
Seems You did not check the other replacements:
http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex_talk:Add_a_Wiki&diff=prev&oldid=197977
Basically not simply wikiindex.com was to be changed in wikiindex.org, but ://wikiindex.com/index.php would have to be the search phrase.
[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 12:01, 9 May 2017 (PDT)
:Fixed your latest find.  Your idea of using <tt>/index.php</tt> might not work properly - because that is only (normally) used in URLs, and not rendered wikitext.  I am fairly confident [[Special:ReplaceText]] works only on rendered wikitext, and not actual URLs.  Could be wrong though.  I need to think more on this.  I think it only changed 37-ish articles, so not a huge job to check them all.  Did you find any it missed out?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 12:19, 9 May 2017 (PDT)
::When You look at the example which I provided originally and how the extension changed it: http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Aussiepete&diff=197974&oldid=33758 then how do You get the idea, that replace text would work on the rendered text (only)?  --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 12:41, 9 May 2017 (PDT)
:::You are actually correct.  All diffs work by using a full external link URL.  I forgot diffs weren't [[wikilink]]s.  Have you found any more?  Appreciate your help, thank-you. :-))  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 17:10, 9 May 2017 (PDT)
::::As You can see in this [[Special:Diff/197974|Example]],  diffs can be noted down without mentioning any URL and are, as such independent from the domain name. Those notations would not need any replacement after a change in domain name. So You can see, that not all diffs work "by using a full external link URL" [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 17:56, 9 May 2017 (PDT)
== User rights ==
Hi JAK, good to see you online!
Can you please make a couple of changes to members of the [[staff]] user group?  {{u|Jason}} really ought to be removed - I'm struggling to find the rationale as to why he was added.  And can you please add me?  I am trying to look through some of the backend stuff to work out why we still have these annoying bugs.  Don't worry - if I do not understand something, I will just look, but leave as is without making any changes.
Best,  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 15:17, 26 May 2017 (PDT)
:Sean, I can happily add you as staff but I don't think it will give you as much access as you would like. Ultimately, what both you and I need are access to the true backend on the server. I was not ever privy to who Jason is nor why he was added as staff but I know that he has something to do with the [[.wiki]] TLD and so does Ray. Maybe they are friends? Business partners? Either way, he's not active, so I've removed him as staff and added you. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 15:40, 26 May 2017 (PDT)
::Brandon CS Sanders is another inactive member of staff group. --[[Special:Contributions/185.182.81.39|185.182.81.39]] 09:43, 28 May 2017 (PDT)
:::He is but he may well make changes to the wiki in the future. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 18:49, 28 May 2017 (PDT)
== Spam redirects ==
Hello, in [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Jason&namespace=&tagfilter=&newOnly=1&year=2017&month=-1 Jason's contributions] there are many spam redirects, can you delete them? --[[Special:Contributions/185.182.81.39|185.182.81.39]] 09:42, 28 May 2017 (PDT)
== Manorainjan's behaviour ==
Hello. Just asking you this question: can you warn Manorainjan? Because I told him that he, among with Rock-O-Jello and Amanda, was an active user and they all deserved a promotion. He attacked me saying that I am part of a "crew" against him. --[[User:13Reasons|13Reasons]] ([[User talk:13Reasons|talk]]) 08:21, 4 June 2017 (PDT)
:I can see why you're upset but I don't think this warrants any intervention, honestly. Just step away and move on--he's going to think what he thinks. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 13:45, 4 June 2017 (PDT)
== Name change ==
Can you change my nickname to '''CcZc'''? Thanks in advance, --[[User:13Reasons|13Reasons]] ([[User talk:13Reasons|talk]]) 02:59, 23 June 2017 (PDT)
:Means: "There is no 'crew' in this wiki" that You are the only one, who opens one account after another, applies for new names, asks for being blocked or unblocked, blanks and undoes ones own user page back and forth? {{unsigned|Manorainjan}}
::Manorainjan, as you are constantly harassing me, on and off wiki, I am leaving forever. But remember: this site is in very bad conditions, and will soon die. And you are the only one responsible of this. Like Koavf said, "you are a consistently rude and provocative person and it drives away other editors". --[[User:13Reasons|13Reasons]] ([[User talk:13Reasons|talk]]) 06:18, 23 June 2017 (PDT)
:::Just for matters of curiosity: Where in the world did we meet off wiki? Tell me, so I know whom I "harassed" there. ::::Even though this site makes no real progress, it is not in a bad condition at all. And it will certainly not die soon or any time soon or in in any kind of near future within the short span of Your attention. That is, because Ray is taking care of it. And Ray is the direct opposite of You, he is refined, mature, highly intelligent and absolutely trustworthy. How could a kid that goes from "block my account for an infinite amount of time!" (BTW: q.e.d ;-) back and forth within 4 minutes have any mentionable impact on this wiki? This is not Your usual My Little Pony playground. --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 09:54, 23 June 2017 (PDT)
:::::I have no problems saying that I am Hal. You sent some messages to me on Wikipedia some time ago. How could a rude troll like you have any mentionable impact on this wiki? I made more than 100 pages here and improved many others. How come you have so much respect for Ray, but behave badly with Mark, another admin? Anyway, Ray left the site a long time ago and sometimes makes minor edits to pages and user rights (he also left the Wiki.Wiki project, in which I demonstrated the incompetence of old staff member Jason, who got demoted). I don't understand why you think you are a good presence for this website when you're the one destroying it... remember your one week block. --[[User:13Reasons|13Reasons]] ([[User talk:13Reasons|talk]]) 11:07, 23 June 2017 (PDT)
::::::There is not even a user page for [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:13Reasons 13Reasons] on en-wikipedia. So, what are You talking about? Why those deliberately nebulous statements? You know pretty well one can set links to any wiki incident. When You are not using exact links, it means You try to lie about something. --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 11:45, 23 June 2017 (PDT)
:::::::You are right, Manorainjan, I was just here to troll around. We never met off-wiki :-) When you spoke about the crew, did it mean that you understood that I'm HAL-9000? Indeed, I am that user. --[[User:13Reasons|13Reasons]] ([[User talk:13Reasons|talk]]) 09:51, 26 June 2017 (PDT)
== [[wikiFactor]] ==
Hope you are keeping busy!  :-P
The [[wikiFactor]] (wF) issue . . . I'm sure we are all aware that both the entire [[:Category:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia Foundation]] range of wikis, all of [[:Category:Wikia|Wika]], and any independent wiki running the latest versions of [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] (MW) can now no longer output page view data, and so we can no longer update their specific wF.  However, other wiki engines can still output page views, and therefore wF data.  Furthermore, there are still MANY independent wikis running MW that have not upgraded to the latest MW version, and are continuing to reliably output page view data.  So, in line with our now established ethos of keeping dead, vanished wiki, it would be good if we can retain all wikiFactor data.  It was for that very reason why I amended the boilerplates with – <code><nowiki><br>wikiFactor as of: 2012-MM-DD</nowiki></code> – to allow both page count and wikiFactor data to remain on our articles, and make it clear of the separate dates for both values.  Our own [[WikiIndex]] article page illustrates this (though that page uses live, dynamic data for the page count and page count date).  For articles that have had their wF data deleted, look back through its [[edit history]] to find required info.
What are your thoughts?  Best.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 11:32, 14 November 2017 (PST)
:I started this topic long ago [[Category_talk:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki#wF_asking_from_others_what_we_do_not_provide_ourselves.3F]] We just need to install the extension. --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 12:01, 14 November 2017 (PST)
:Well, I don't really see the value in retaining WikiFactor information if it's woefully out of date. All this really says is something about the relatively popularity of certain pages five or six years ago... If a site has some metric to measure it within the past (e.g.) 24 months, that may be useful but at some point, it's just a relic. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 21:16, 14 November 2017 (PST)
::What about installing the extension on WikiIndex? [[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 02:42, 15 November 2017 (PST)
:::Ray gave me staff permissions with the goal of having me be able to access the server directly to change setting in MediaWiki but that has yet to happen and Brandon is MIA. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 11:21, 15 November 2017 (PST)
::::Don't worry. Installing an extension is mostly rather easy. I did that also on my own wiki. As soon as You have set up FTP successfully is is a matter of minutes. --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 11:32, 15 November 2017 (PST)
::::So, what is the progress in this matter? Just now I added [[T4-Wiki]] a wiki of 2006 that is indeed using wF (of 119). It is using MW version 1.25.1, higher than ours. So, that should not pose a problem really. --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 04:45, 5 December 2017 (PST)
:::::There is none. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 09:06, 5 December 2017 (PST)
== Wikipedia.org oddity ==
Hi Justin, you are obviously highly knowledgable regarding Wikipedia, so I hope you don't mind if I ask you a <cough> 'interesting' question.  On the Alexa site for [https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/wikipedia.org Wikipedia.org], near the bottom of the page, it lists "Other Sites Owned".  Numbers 1, 3, and 5 are explanatory, but 2 and 4 have . . . erm . . . raised my eyebrows!  Number 2 (at time I viewed Alexa) was <nowiki>nekkid.info</nowiki> (<u>warning</u>: NOT suitable for work/school/minors etc) is a XXX p0rn site, and number 4 was <nowiki>searchbastard.com</nowiki> (now goes to a parking domain site).
So . . . is Alexa correct?  Does Wikipedia actually own those two?  If they do, I am guessing (though not defaming) Jimbo was the original owner.  Does Wikipedia and / or the WMF have any need, or justification for owning those?  My only guess is the potential revenue stream from number 2 - which might be a valid commercial reason, but is it ethical?
Do you fancy asking some questions in the appropriate places?  Understand if not, though.  Best.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 11:03, 10 December 2017 (PST)
:Ha. I don't know if you know about the history of the site but I imagine it's somehow related to Bomis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomis. That is a weird find... [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 12:24, 10 December 2017 (PST)
::Wikipedia as such does not own anything at all. If some WP-thingy owns anything, it is the '''Wikimedia Foundation Inc.''' which is a non-profit organisation which has registered the domain wikipedia.org and similar domains. Besides this entry on Alexa, there is no indication that WMF owns searchbastard.com and the like. It is likely, that those domains where owned by the company Bomis Inc. (or the people who owned the company) which also registered Bomis.com. WMF was founded by the people of Bomis. There is neither need nor use or indication, that those domains should or would have been transferred to the WMF as well. Anyway no domain owns any other domain. Therefore, if Alexa states any "owned by" than Alexa should state, who is the registrar of wikipedia.org in the first place, which Alexa does not do. Even the term "to own" is wrong. Therefore this "information" of "Other Sites Owned" is questionable by design. At best, there could have been a moment in time when wikipedia.org and some of the other mentioned domains have been registered by the same institution. But this institution has not been and is not the WMF. The "ownerships" of the other domains are heavily obfuscated. I think, what this Alexa entry rally proves is the inaccuracy of Alexa because it is so obviously wrong and about such a prominent domain, that Alexa staff could not convincingly excuse it by "we can not control every little detail in our database...". They do not control any detail at all. It proves that Alexa is run by weasels. Their data collecting processes are so overly automated that blatant inaccuracy is guaranteed. We know pretty well how much work it makes to keep track with ever changing details about internet entities. We can not do it ourselves, not enough manpower. If Alexa would try to present correct data, they would have to more than triple their staff and would not be able to gain any profits for the investors. [[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 16:55, 10 December 2017 (PST)
:::{{u|Manorainjan}} – you had better go and tell Alexa that they got the internet wrong!!!
:::{{u|Koavf}} — I was only following a link that Manor posted!  Thanks for the update. :-)  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 18:40, 10 December 2017 (PST)
== MOVED TO XEN.WIKI is at the top of xenharmonic now ==
[[Xenharmonic Wiki]] is migrated due to <code>wikispaces</code> closing. What to do?[[Special:Contributions/83.31.146.92|83.31.146.92]] 12:21, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
:I changed it. Thanks. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 00:33, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
== Spammer ==
You just welcommed a spammer, could you take care of that? --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 11:37, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
== Welcome back to a functioning WikiIndex ==
Hi koavf, I nearly gave up on WikiIndex!  Glad it has been fixed.  I noticed you held one of the new account requests from Dominica.  I found a likely URL from the requesters email, but I don't speak Spanish, but to me, it looks just like a blog only.  Can you please check if https://WikiDominicana.com is an actual wiki?  Best regards  --[[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 20:53, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
:Yeah, this is some kind of spam tourism thing and doesn't appear to be someone's personal blog. It appears to be written by a bot. Thanks for keeping this ship sailing, Sean. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 18:31, 29 May 2021 (UTC)