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This needs to stay syncronized with [[template:Wiki boilerplate]] unless we ditch one of them. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 15:14, 22 May 2006 (EDT)
This needs to stay syncronized with [[template:Wiki boilerplate]] unless we ditch one of them. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 15:14, 22 May 2006 (EDT)
:: I think there should be just one [[User:John Stanton|John]] 15:45, 22 May 2006 (EDT)
:: I think there should be just one [[User:John Stanton|John]] 15:45, 22 May 2006 (EDT)
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===misunderstanding . . .===
===misunderstanding . . .===
There seems to be some misunderstanding (on all sides!) - and especially so on 'boilerplates'.<br>
There seems to be some misunderstanding (on all sides!) - and especially so on 'boilerplates'.<br>
Firstly, as I understand it, a '[[:Category:Boilerplates|Boilerplate]]' is simply (and ONLY) a method of 'copy and paste' - for experienced wiki editors who can copy/paste said boilerplate into a new or existing article, and manually enter all field data.  A boilerplate will definately NOT contain any actual coding or syntax to render a true article - what a boilerplate WILL contain is effectively a 'link' to the specific template.  So to take the [[:template:Wikia boilerplate]] as a specific example, it contains 'copy & paste' info, along with hidden text, and [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]]-specific pre-formated URLs (along with Wikia standard edit mode and wiki licence) - but it also contains the 'link' to the [[template:Wiki]] - and it is this specific [[template:Wiki]] (and NO other template) which renders the correctly formated 'infobox' (with all its category links - status, language, edit mode, recent changes, etc) on an article page.  To prove this point, create a new blank page (from a direct URL edit in your browsers address bar - WITHOUT using any of the 'create new wiki' type of pages), copy & paste the Wikia boilerplate, click on 'Show preview' button, then scroll to the bottom of the page, and under 'Templates used in this preview:' - it will list - 'Template:Wiki' (and NOT any other template)!!!
Firstly, as I understand it, a '[[:Category:Boilerplate|Boilerplate]]' is simply (and ONLY) a method of 'copy and paste' - for experienced wiki editors who can copy/paste said boilerplate into a new or existing article, and manually enter all field data.  A boilerplate will definately NOT contain any actual coding or syntax to render a true article - what a boilerplate WILL contain is effectively a 'link' to the specific template.  So to take the [[:template:Wikia boilerplate]] as a specific example, it contains 'copy & paste' info, along with hidden text, and [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]]-specific pre-formated URLs (along with Wikia standard edit mode and wiki licence) - but it also contains the 'link' to the [[template:Wiki]] - and it is this specific [[template:Wiki]] (and NO other template) which renders the correctly formated 'infobox' (with all its category links - status, language, edit mode, recent changes, etc) on an article page.  To prove this point, create a new blank page (from a direct URL edit in your browsers address bar - WITHOUT using any of the 'create new wiki' type of pages), copy & paste the Wikia boilerplate, click on 'Show preview' button, then scroll to the bottom of the page, and under 'Templates used in this preview:' - it will list - 'Template:Wiki' (and NOT any other template)!!!
Quite simply, it is ONLY [[template:Wiki]] which contains all of the specific syntax and coding.  It is ONLY [[template:Wiki]] which is used to render ALL articles here on WikiIndex (well, those which are an article page on a wiki!) - and this is irrespective of which 'boilerplate' may be used, or whatever 'create a new wiki' page or button is used.  As proof of this, open up (ideally in a new window or tab) [[template:NewWiki boilerplate]], then click on its 'edit' tab.  At the very top of the edit box window, you will see <pre>{{Wiki</pre>, and again, scroll down to the bottom of the page, look under 'Templates used in this preview:' - it will list - 'Template:Wiki' (along with three/four other templates - but none of those alone will render the correctly formated right-aligned 'infobox' for wiki articles).  It will NOT list 'Template:NewWiki boilerplate' (or indeed any 'boilerplate' template) under the Templates used listing.
Quite simply, it is ONLY [[template:Wiki]] which contains all of the specific syntax and coding.  It is ONLY [[template:Wiki]] which is used to render ALL articles here on WikiIndex (well, those which are an article page on a wiki!) - and this is irrespective of which 'boilerplate' may be used, or whatever 'create a new wiki' page or button is used.  As proof of this, open up (ideally in a new window or tab) [[template:NewWiki boilerplate]], then click on its 'edit' tab.  At the very top of the edit box window, you will see <pre>{{Wiki</pre>, and again, scroll down to the bottom of the page, look under 'Templates used in this preview:' - it will list - 'Template:Wiki' (along with three/four other templates - but none of those alone will render the correctly formated right-aligned 'infobox' for wiki articles).  It will NOT list 'Template:NewWiki boilerplate' (or indeed any 'boilerplate' template) under the Templates used listing.


I'm gonna be BOLD, and amend the [[WikiIndex:Community portal]] section to use the standard [[template:Wiki]] - and we can monitor it to see if it makes any changes.  If it turns out to be a disasterous edit, then it can be reverted.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 14:50, 8 September 2012 (PDT)
I'm gonna be BOLD, and amend the [[WikiIndex:Community portal]] section to use the standard [[template:Wiki]] - and we can monitor it to see if it makes any changes.  If it turns out to be a disasterous edit, then it can be reverted.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 14:50, 8 September 2012 (PDT)
:Let me explain this template: It is used as some additional text for [[Form:Wiki]] on a new page creation. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:40, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
::Erm, BEFORE you hurredly altered it this morning to its current in carnation, [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Template:NewWiki_boilerplate&oldid=170828 this version] did NOTHING when using [[Form:Wiki]] to create a new article entry - I've tried it using three different web browsers!
::Furthermore, it has been more than one year since it was removed [[WikiIndex:Community portal]] section - and its absence has caused NO problems either.
::IMVHO, this is just creating un-necessary confusion.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 08:58, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
:::# Are you sure that [[Special:Permalink/170827]] doesn't have too many additional texts when rendering?
:::# I tested before, and it DID work. (I'm not sure what's wrong if you didn't, maybe a screen shot?)
:::# Unncessary != not improvements --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:22, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
::::# I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to say :-/
::::# What browser and OS are you using?  I'm using Windowz 7, and use either Internet Explorer, Mozilla Firefox (and a Comodo clone) and also Chrome - and none of them rendered (on preview) any text from this template.
::::# OK, that was a subjective statement - some folks may have one point of view, others may be opposite point of view.  I suppose the acid test would be does it add any actual constructive improvement to the use of [[Form:Wiki]] - when creating NEW wiki entries?  Best [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 09:44, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::# Never mind.
:::::# <s>Undoing for a test...</s> seem a bug with after the upgrade, I'll figure out.
:::::# Yes, and also sometimes forgets to spell things, and the form actually helps. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:48, 30 October 2013 (UTC)