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==Thoughts==
I much prefer the word '''Weblog''' and am proposing to move this page.  What do others think? [[MarkDilley]]
I much prefer the word '''Weblog''' and am proposing to move this page.  What do others think? [[MarkDilley]]


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: Okay, I've gone back and put the blog tag or category back on the ones you took off.  I'm not sure I understand the reasoning for taking tags off a page.  Sure, if there's a ''barbie'' tag on a surfing wiki, fine, take it off.  But if it's a term that does apply to that wiki, I'm not why removing info is a good idea.  Adding more tags with your preferred term seems '''very''' appropriate, by the way. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 11:22, 17 May 2006 (EDT)
: Okay, I've gone back and put the blog tag or category back on the ones you took off.  I'm not sure I understand the reasoning for taking tags off a page.  Sure, if there's a ''barbie'' tag on a surfing wiki, fine, take it off.  But if it's a term that does apply to that wiki, I'm not why removing info is a good idea.  Adding more tags with your preferred term seems '''very''' appropriate, by the way. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 11:22, 17 May 2006 (EDT)


Ted, I checked, all the additions of the word '''blog''' came from the Cristi and Sorin.  I don't see why there decision counts more than mine. Really.  I am also very frustrated that you reverted my work... but you probably knew that already. [[MarkDilley]]
: We can have '''both''' tags on any of these pages.  That way people that like to use the word "weblog" will be happy and be able to find the wikis they want and the people that use the word "blog" will be similarly happy and be able to find the wikis they wantIs this okay with you? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 16:30, 17 May 2006 (EDT)
: Really, why is what I did by making that decision any different from you telling someone how to do one of their pages as if it were policy? [[MarkDilley]]
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I don't exactly agree with either of you... I'm with Mark on the idea of making categories systematic and really meaningful by collapsing down to a single standard term. But I don't agree with Mark that "Weblog" is the proper term to collapse to.  I'd rather use some sort of "community respecting criteria" for collapsing down to one term the ones I tried said that "Blog" was preferred by lots of actual speakers.
 
'''Why collapse at at all?'''  There are categories for Weblog, Weblogs, Blog, Blogs, and Blogging.  That seems rediculous to me.  Unless every one of these categories has the same list of wikis in them it makes someone ''looking for a wiki'' go through a bunch of work to see "all their options" at the same time. It also encourages diligent wiki promoters to list every remotely useful "variant category" in case that's the one that people somehow find to link into their wiki's page. Such mass listing will lead to "category spamming" in the long run. Thus, I'd prefer to make the vocabulary a *bit* more controlled ''to make it more useful'' and then delete the categories that are officially "nonstandard". The nonstandard categories will be red and easily to find and fix by hunting around in [[Special:Uncategorizedcategories]] or [[Special:Wantedcategories]].  A sign of a well maintained wiki would be having those special pages have very very few entries.
 
'''Why "Blog" instead of "Weblog"?'''  Wikipedia redirects Weblog -> Blog (instead of vice versa).  Also Google says there are 2.5 billion pages on the net that say "blog" and only 280 million that say "weblog".  I don't particularly care either way... but I care that we can settle such disagreements in some trivial way that accesses how people are actually speaking and writing "out in the world".  Both the methods I suggested result from aggregated language behavior and they both agree... that's good enough for me :-)
 
- [[User:JenniferForUnity|JenniferForUnity]] 02:58, 20 October 2006 (EDT)
 
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