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===Upgrade===
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I'd be happy to try to upgrade this MediaWiki and/or add extensions that we might need, but not sure what's needed and also not sure what customizations, etc. we've had that we'd have to keep in mind.  Any thoughts? [[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small>
{{For|earlier upgrading discussions from 2006|WikiIndex:2006 upgrade discussion}}
* ''Oh, and yes, I know about the favicon and will fix as soon as possible ...''
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::One common extension we don't have is [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Renameuser Extension:Renameuser], which allows bureaucrats the ability to change the name of an account. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 10 14 2010
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:: Also, how about Semantic MediaWiki
;First - please weigh in over at [[WikiIndex:New logo decision]]
::* Semantic Wiki (allows if statements which can help make better infoboxes and other stuff too)
: Making WikiIndex a semantic wiki with the extensions. - I like this, ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: I would like to consider if we would like to move to a semantic MediaWiki - I am asking now if all that is, is the extension. This is an estimate I got from Yaron Koren of WikiWorks.com:


: Update of existing code: .5 hour
;Second - look through these and make sure it represents what you would like to happen here.
: Updating site copy: 2 hours
: Installing SMW and related extensions: 1 hour
: Setting up wiki for SMW, including re-arranging category structure: 5 hours


What do folks think?  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
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::* CITE (allows easy creation of references)
''data from [[Special:Version]]''
::: I almost forgot about the cite extension, that's practically mandatory, and semantic would not be a bad idea either. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 10 16 2010
*{{Mw|Download|Upgrade}} ({{Mw|Manual:Upgrading|how-to}}): 1.10.1 → 1.16.2* Update favicon
:::: Nice but not mandatory in terms of [[DocumentingWikis]] as different than [[EmergentWikis]]. Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:::: So when do you think a possible upgrade might happen? '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 10 17 2010
::::: Can you think of anything else that we've customized or added that we should be careful of when we upgrade?  If not, then I'm ready to move forward with it.  Could you help me identify and ask any other admins?  [[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small>
: ''When [[John Stanton]] retired, I took notes about what files needed to be saved during an upgrade,  [[Raymond King]] - please talk with me before doing an upgrade.  Thanks, [[MarkDilley]]
:* The idea of installing Semantic MediaWiki greatly appeals to my inner geek, but I can't think of any specific uses for it right now. Then again, with the shiny new toy in front of me, that might change. [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 03:37, 27 October 2010 (PDT)
:* Are there any downsides to installing SMW, apart from the workload? [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 03:37, 27 October 2010 (PDT)
:*I don't see the point of the Semantic Mediawiki upgrade. The question is, is that useful to the users of this Wiki? I can't say for certain that it is for everyone, for me personally it doesn't seem to be. I would be interested in the possibility of having stronger anti-spam support ((Like [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Check_Spambots Check Spambots] for example)) [[User:TeraS|TeraS]] 18:10, 27 October 2010 (PDT)
:: Semantic MediaWiki has one big advantage for this wiki: It allows structured an guided data entry through [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Forms Semantic Forms] which is substantially easier than [[WikiIndex:Add_a_Wiki|the current system]]. Additionallly I see no reason why [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Drilldown Semantic Drilldown] should not be useful for users too. Just have a look at [http://discoursedb.org/wiki/Main_Page Discourse DB] to see an example. --[[User:Kghbln|kgh]] 08:19, 1 November 2010 (PDT)
 
I second the suggestion of RenameUser. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 13:38, 31 October 2010 (PDT)
 
:Mark Dilley asked me to comment here on why Semantic MediaWiki would be useful for this site. I can point to two big reasons - form-based editing, and drill-down browsing. You can see examples of those two [http://foodfinds.referata.com/w/index.php?title=Al_Moro&action=formedit here] and [http://foodfinds.referata.com/wiki/Special:BrowseData here]. [[User:Yaron Koren|Yaron Koren]] 18:43, 31 October 2010 (PDT)
::This sounds like it could be a dream come true for the site. Using forms, we could create an incredibility easy way to index wikis. I think we should upgrade to Semantic MediaWiki. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 10 31 2010
::I just realise that Yaron commented on SMW as I did. To cut a long story short: Go for it! --[[User:Kghbln|kgh]] 08:22, 1 November 2010 (PDT)
::Giving visitors the ability to index their wikis using forms would be brilliant! The more we can avoid populating the "Wikis to Add" category, the better. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 17:18, 4 November 2010 (PDT)
 
I think [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Replace_Text Replace text] is always a good choice on a wiki. --[[User:Kghbln|kgh]] 08:25, 1 November 2010 (PDT)
 
Someone will have to look at [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Whos_Online Whos Online]. Probably it will have to be switched to [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WhosOnline WhosOnline] though I do not know if it will be able to serve the same purpose. --[[User:Kghbln|kgh]] 08:42, 1 November 2010 (PDT)
 
(1) As long as the layout isn't changed to anything resembling "New Wikia Look" (my main complaint with New Wikia Look is the comments that can be posted to the bottom of articles (example: "I LOVE TWILIGHT!!!!!!!!ITS CLASSY" comment posted in comment area of an article at Twilight Wikia.)
(2) I was going to suggest adding the Gadget that gives people the option of of have "Add an [edit] link for the lead section of a page" in their Preferences, but probably not much need for it at WikiIndex (since articles are fairly small in comparison with some other wikis). --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 20:51, 11 November 2010 (PST)
 
====Summary====
''data from http://wikiindex.org/Special:Version''
* [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download Upgrade] ([http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading how-to]): 1.10.1 → 1.16.0
* Installed extensions: [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpecialInterwiki SpecialInterwiki], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CharInsert CharInsert], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InputBox InputBox], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions ParserFunctions], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit ConfirmEdit], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist SpamBlacklist], <s>[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UniversalEditButton UniversalEditButton (deprecated)]</s>
* Extensions to install (proposed by others): [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite Cite], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Renameuser Renameuser], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_MediaWiki Semantic MediaWiki], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Drilldown Semantic Drilldown], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Forms Semantic Forms], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Replace_Text Replace Text], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WhosOnline WhosOnline], ([http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AntiBot AntiBot (used in Wikipedia)] or [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Check_Spambots Check Spambots])
* Extensions to install (proposed by me): [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter AbuseFilter], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Title_Blacklist Title Blacklist], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree CategoryTree], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TorBlock TorBlock], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AntiSpoof AntiSpoof], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke Nuke], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CheckUser CheckUser], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TitleKey TitleKey], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenDocument_Export OpenDocument Export]
 
Does the host have the DBA extension for PHP installed? The readme says it'll improve performance.


That's my suggestions. --[[User:190.26.27.91|190.26.27.91]] 18:38, 1 November 2010 (PDT)
;Extensions:
*Installed extensions: {{Mw|Extension:SpecialInterwiki|SpecialInterwiki}}, {{Mw|Extension:CharInsert|CharInsert}}, {{Mw|Extension:InputBox|InputBox}}, {{Mw|Extension:ParserFunctions|ParserFunctions}}, {{Mw|Extension:ConfirmEdit|ConfirmEdit}}, {{Mw|Extension:SpamBlacklist|SpamBlacklist}}, <s>{{Mw|Extension:UniversalEditButton|UniversalEditButton}} (deprecated)</s>


:It was [http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/211801 suggested] in the wikitech-l mailing list that for the next releases MediaWiki would need PHP 5.2.3 so we need to ensure that the new host has that version installed. It should also have MySQL 5.1 or later. --[[User:Bachinchi|Bachinchi]] 03:27, 7 November 2010 (PST)
*Extensions to install: {{Mw|Extension:Cite|Cite}}, {{Mw|Extension:RenameUser|RenameUser}}, {{Mw|Extension:Semantic MediaWiki|Semantic MediaWiki}}, {{Mw|Extension:Semantic Drilldown|Semantic Drilldown}}, {{Mw|Extension:Semantic Forms|Semantic Forms}}, {{Mw|Extension:Replace Text|Replace Text}}, {{Mw|Extension:WhosOnline|WhosOnline}}, ({{Mw|Extension:AntiBot|AntiBot (used in Wikipedia)}} or {{Mw|Extension:Check Spambots|Check Spambots}})
*Extensions to install: {{Mw|Extension:AbuseFilter|AbuseFilter}}, {{Mw|Extension:Title Blacklist|Title Blacklist}}, {{Mw|Extension:CategoryTree|CategoryTree}}, {{Mw|Extension:TorBlock|TorBlock}}, {{Mw|Extension:AntiSpoof|AntiSpoof}}, {{Mw|Extension:Nuke|Nuke}}, {{Mw|Extension:CheckUser|CheckUser}}, {{Mw|Extension:TitleKey|TitleKey}}, {{Mw|Extension:OpenDocument Export|OpenDocument Export}}


::In case there will not be a change to another hoster, these two precondition are fulfilled since this wiki is already running PHP 5.2.3 and MySQL  5.1.41. --[[User:Kghbln|kgh]] 12:26, 7 November 2010 (PST)
:Add an analytics package


: To me this sounds like a plan. Concerning DBA: If I get [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Cache this page] right it would be better to have APC rather than DBA. Cheers --[[User:Kghbln|kgh]] 12:26, 7 November 2010 (PST)
===check these above===
*{{Mw|Extension:SimpleAntiSpam|SimpleAntiSpam extension}}
*{{Mw|Extension:RenameUser|RenameUser}}
*Semantic MediaWiki
**{{Mw|Extension:Semantic Forms|Semantic Forms}}
**{{Mw|Extension:Semantic Drilldown|Semantic Drilldown}}
*CITE for references
*{{Mw|Extension:Check Spambots|Check Spambots}}
*Update {{Mw|Extension:ConfirmEdit|captcha}}
*{{Mw|Extension:Replace Text|Replace text}}
*Upgrade {{Mw|Extension:Whos Online|Whos Online}} switched to {{Mw|Extension:WhosOnline|WhosOnline}}
*Does the host have the DBA extension for PHP installed?  The readme says it'll improve performance.
**Concerning DBA: If I get {{Mw|Manual:Cache|this page}} right it would be better to have APC rather than DBA.
*Next releases MediaWiki would need PHP 5.2.3 so we need to ensure that the new host has that version installed.  It should also have MySQL 5.1 or later via: [http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/211801 suggested]
**this wiki is already running PHP 5.2.3 and MySQL  5.1.41
*Might need if recaptcha doesn't work:
**{{Mw|Extension:Nuke|Nuke}}
**{{Mw|Extension:Title Blacklist|Title Blacklist}}
:I have found that on my wiki (and various others) that  [http://www.allspammedup.com/2011/01/google-recaptcha-cracked/ reCAPTCHA has been "cracked"].  I now use {{Mw|Extension:VisualMathCaptcha|VisualMathCaptcha}} which works well (for the moment) --[[User:Spud Gun | <b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User talk:Spud Gun|talk]]) 05:27, 11 May 2011 (PDT)


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Latest revision as of 17:56, 11 January 2023

For earlier upgrading discussions from 2006, see: WikiIndex:2006 upgrade discussion.
For current proposals, see: WikiIndex:Upgrades needed.

NOTICE: SPRING HAS BEEN EXTENDED TILL JUNE 30TH, ALMOST THERE FOLKS!

First - please weigh in over at WikiIndex:New logo decision
Second - look through these and make sure it represents what you would like to happen here.

Upgrade

data from Special:Version

Extensions
Add an analytics package

check these above

I have found that on my wiki (and various others) that reCAPTCHA has been "cracked". I now use VisualMathCaptcha which works well (for the moment) -- Carl McBride (talk) 05:27, 11 May 2011 (PDT)
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