Category talk:Wikipedia: Difference between revisions

(→‎PlaceOpedia?: PlaceOpedia hasn't been updated for over four years - its' last update was August 2008. Should we delete its external link from the template? ~~~~)
(Fix redirects)
 
(3 intermediate revisions by the same user not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
{{TOCright}}
{{TOC right}}
== Wiki Topic template ==
{{See also|Talk:Wikipedia}}
Mark, I like this idea.  It took me a while to understand it.  Now that I do, I like it.  There's a problem here that we have to fix.  Remember when we developed the Wiki Engine template?  We couldn't just use the Wiki template because it made sub-categories of All, Vibrant, etc.  The same is true here.  And we decided at that time to use a soft-redirect from the main namespace page to the category page so that we could put the categories there (all, vibrant, etc).  I think we need to do the same here.  I'm going to give it a shot, okay?  [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:53, 11 June 2006 (EDT)
==Wiki Topic template==
: Okay, I went ahead and made the new template.  I'm not sure what to do about the Wikimedia Foundation category, however.  Any thoughts? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 13:07, 11 June 2006 (EDT)
Mark, I like this idea.  It took me a while to understand it.  Now that I do, I like it.  There's a problem here that we have to fix.  Remember when we developed the [[Template:Wiki engine|Wiki engine template]]?  We couldn't just use the Wiki template because it made sub-categories of [[:Category:All|All]], [[:Category:Vibrant|Vibrant]], etc.  The same is true here.  And we decided at that time to use a soft-redirect from the main namespace page to the category page so that we could put the categories there (all, vibrant, etc).  I think we need to do the same here.  I'm going to give it a shot, okay?  [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:53, 11 June 2006 (EDT)
: Okay, I went ahead and made the new template.  I'm not sure what to do about the [[:Category:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia Foundation category]], however.  Any thoughts? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 13:07, 11 June 2006 (EDT)


== Want a challenge? ==
==Want a challenge?==
I think it's a little bit messy, if you want a challenge, you can do this to tidy up: I.e. on the English page write <nowiki>[[Category:Wikipedia|en]]</nowiki> and so on for all the languages. Somebody up? &ndash; [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Search/Smiddle|S]]&middot;[[Special:Allpages/Smiddle|A]]</small> 16:29, 21 October 2006 (EDT)
I think it's a little bit messy, if you want a challenge, you can do this to tidy up: I.e. on the English page write <nowiki>[[Category:Wikipedia|en]]</nowiki> and so on for all the languages. Somebody up? &ndash; [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Search/Smiddle|S]]&middot;[[Special:Allpages/Smiddle|A]]</small> 16:29, 21 October 2006 (EDT)


:Just to clarify, you would prefer to alphabetize by the ISO language code rather than the pagename? That sounds reasonable, but I worry that the casual observer won't understand how we've organized the category. After all, the language codes do not appear in the pagename. Of course, I can't read Arabic, Chinese, Hindi, Japanese, Korean, or Thai, so it's not easy to tell which wiki is which in this category anyway. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 15:18, 4 December 2008 (EST)
:Just to clarify, you would prefer to alphabetize by the ISO language code rather than the pagename? That sounds reasonable, but I worry that the casual observer won't understand how we've organized the category. After all, the language codes do not appear in the pagename. Of course, I can't read Arabic, Chinese, Hindi, Japanese, Korean, or Thai, so it's not easy to tell which wiki is which in this category anyway. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 15:18, 4 December 2008 (EST)


== PlaceOpedia? ==
==PlaceOpedia?==
I wanted to look at WikiIndex's page about Wikipedia and noticed Category:Wikipedia has external link to PlaceOpedia. Should WikiIndex have a page about PlaceOpedia?  I was going to start an article, but wasn't sure what shape the article should take (PlaceOpedia doesn't seem like a wiki, so I'm guessing [[template:wiki]] should not be used on it. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 16:07, 4 May 2007 (PDT)
I wanted to look at WikiIndex's page about Wikipedia and noticed [[:Category:Wikipedia]] has external link to PlaceOpedia. Should WikiIndex have a page about PlaceOpedia?  I was going to start an article, but wasn't sure what shape the article should take (PlaceOpedia doesn't seem like a wiki, so I'm guessing [[template:wiki]] should not be used on it. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 16:07, 4 May 2007 (PDT)
:PlaceOpedia hasn't been updated for over four years - its' last update was August 2008.  Should we delete its external link from the template?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 15:21, 6 December 2012 (PST)
:PlaceOpedia hasn't been updated for over four years - its' last update was August 2008.  Should we delete its external link from the template?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 15:21, 6 December 2012 (PST)


== Promising ==
==Promising==
Hey. At Wikipedia I was once a welcoming and promising user but first Marcus-E, then Metros and finally Alison teamed up and stole my chances of being famous.([[User:76.247.222.101|76.247.222.101]] 01:20, 7 March 2008 (EST))
Hey. At Wikipedia I was once a welcoming and promising [[user]] but first Marcus-E, then Metros and finally Alison teamed up and stole my chances of being famous. ([[Special:Contributions/76.247.222.101|76.247.222.101]] 01:20, 7 March 2008 (EST))


== Is Wikipedia too big? ==
==Is Wikipedia too big?==
This question is currently posed in the description of this category? Is this something we really want to ask? I'm new here, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the point of WikiIndex was to list wikis, not to comment on them. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 15:10, 4 December 2008 (EST)
This question is currently posed in the description of this category? Is this something we really want to ask? I'm new here, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the point of WikiIndex was to list wikis, not to comment on them. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 15:10, 4 December 2008 (EST)


: Is there a better place to compare and contrast wiki with each other, than WikiIndex?
: Is there a better place to compare and contrast wiki with each other, than WikiIndex?
: I agree that it seems odd to pose this question here, on a "category" page -- shouldn't most of the text on this page be on some normal "article" page (perhaps [[Wikipedia]]), rather than on this category page? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 22:22, 4 December 2008 (EST)
: I agree that it seems odd to pose this question here, on a "category" page -- shouldn't most of the text on this page be on some normal "article" page (perhaps [[English Wikipedia]]), rather than on this category page? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 22:22, 4 December 2008 (EST)


::Well, I suppose we could. There doesn't seem to be a "neutral point of view" policy for WikiIndex. However, it seems to me that this would lead to more edit wars like have occurred with the article for [[Conservapedia]]. If we do want to provide subjective commentary, however, I would put it on the talk page, a "/" subpage, or in a separate section of the article. I definitely don't think it belongs here in the category definition. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 16:16, 5 December 2008 (EST)
::Well, I suppose we could. There doesn't seem to be a "[[:Category:NPOV|neutral point of view]]" policy for WikiIndex. However, it seems to me that this would lead to more [[edit war]]s like have occurred with the article for [[Conservapedia]]. If we do want to provide subjective commentary, however, I would put it on the talk page, a "/" subpage, or in a separate section of the article. I definitely don't think it belongs here in the category definition. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 16:16, 5 December 2008 (EST)


==Proposed language renaming==
==Proposed language renaming==
OK, this was sorta raised above at [[#Want a challenge?]].  I would like to propose we rename all the Wikipedia articles, so that their article page name here on WikiIndex is changed to the english translation of their native language name.  I think we ought to follow the naming conventions which Wikipedia uses; the article page name is the english translation, and the 'infobox' shows the english translation, then the native language name, and/or, if need be, the name shown in actual script.  [[Wikimedia Meta-Wiki]] also follows this model, as shown in the tables listed [[Meta-Wiki:List of Wikipedias#All Wikipedias ordered by number of articles|here]].
OK, this was sorta raised above at [[#Want a challenge?]].  I would like to propose we rename all the [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] articles, so that their article page name here on WikiIndex is changed to the english translation of their native language name.  I think we ought to follow the naming conventions which Wikipedia uses; the article page name is the english translation, and the 'infobox' shows the english translation, then the native language name, and/or, if need be, the name shown in actual script.  [[Wikimedia Meta-Wiki]] also follows this model, as shown in the tables listed {{WMF-Meta|List of Wikipedias#All Wikipedias ordered by number of articles|here}}.


A current example ripe for a rename:
A current example ripe for a rename: