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Hi Hoof Hearted, <br>I think that it is not a good idea to "tidy" user-namespace or discussion pages. And the spaces between <code>== Headline ==</code> and headline markup can help recognizing the article structure faster (for me it is like this). <br/> | Hi Hoof Hearted, <br>I think that it is not a good idea to "tidy" user-namespace or discussion pages. And the spaces between <code>== Headline ==</code> and headline markup can help recognizing the article structure faster (for me it is like this). <br/> | ||
Best regards. [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 03:47, 2 January 2012 (PST) | Best regards. [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 03:47, 2 January 2012 (PST) | ||
:Hi Wolf – and Happy New Year to you :) In trying to 'improve' [[WikiIndex]], particularly in the internal '[[ | :Hi Wolf – and Happy New Year to you :) In trying to 'improve' [[WikiIndex]], particularly in the internal '[[wikilink]]s' aspect, I've been reading talk pages to see which way discussions and concensus was heading – but many seemed devioid of wikilinks (maybe because these were shortly after the 'birth' of WikiIndex, and said pages and/or templates had yet to be created)! The tidying is primarily adding these wikilinks (which are one of the fundamentals of a 'good' wiki, help prevent duplicate entries being created, and give pointers to future readers of talk pages); and the removal of excessive whitespace – with the aid of the <code><nowiki>{{TOC right}}</nowiki></code> (excessive whitespace is a pain in the rear on low resolution or smaller monitor screens such as netbooks, tablets (iPads and the likes) and smartphones - because you end up having to scroll excessively).<br> | ||
:I do not understand your concern over this: <code>== Headline ==</code> – and the different effects it creates between this: <code>==Headline==</code> ?? I ''was'' aware of some older browsers (particularly early Firefox versions) had problems rendering certain web codes – but I thought those issues had been resolved! I personally use either IE8, Comodo Dragon 16 (based on Google Chrome) or Firefox 8.0 – and don't have any issues of display rendering. Perhaps I have mis-understood, if I have, would you be kind enough to explain further. – Best regards, --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 06:54, 2 January 2012 (PST) | :I do not understand your concern over this: <code>== Headline ==</code> – and the different effects it creates between this: <code>==Headline==</code> ?? I ''was'' aware of some older browsers (particularly early Firefox versions) had problems rendering certain web codes – but I thought those issues had been resolved! I personally use either IE8, Comodo Dragon 16 (based on Google Chrome) or Firefox 8.0 – and don't have any issues of display rendering. Perhaps I have mis-understood, if I have, would you be kind enough to explain further. – Best regards, --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 06:54, 2 January 2012 (PST) | ||
:: Regarding the space next to the headings: I referred to wikitext readability, not HTML rendering. ...and Happy New Year to ''you'' :-) <br/> Best regards [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 13:11, 3 January 2012 (PST) | :: Regarding the space next to the headings: I referred to wikitext readability, not HTML rendering. ...and Happy New Year to ''you'' :-) <br/> Best regards [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 13:11, 3 January 2012 (PST) | ||
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==userspace edits== | ==userspace edits== | ||
Hi Hoof Hearted,<br>as I have already indicated, in my opinion, there is hardly any change in the competence of other users that are so urgent that it can not be left to them. I would prefer to send them a message about it at first, i.e. I question the value of [ | Hi Hoof Hearted,<br>as I have already indicated, in my opinion, there is hardly any change in the competence of other users that are so urgent that it can not be left to them. I would prefer to send them a message about it at first, i.e. I question the value of [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=User%3AWikademia&action=historysubmit&diff=92219&oldid=74372 changes like this]. Best regards, [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 03:08, 10 January 2012 (PST) | ||
==Broken language templates [fixed]== | ==Broken language templates [fixed]== | ||
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==When changing to inactive template== | ==When changing to inactive template== | ||
You don't need to deal with any of the other fields if you don't want to - they are all deactivated. [ | You don't need to deal with any of the other fields if you don't want to - they are all deactivated. [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Jargon_Wiki&curid=5552&diff=93198&oldid=39313&rcid=104701 ref]. Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
: I am afraid that such changes break the whole semantic framework introduced last year. I strongly recommend not changing the property names. I hope that only a few of such changes occured since they do more damage than good. Cheers --[[User:Kghbln|[[kgh]]]] 12:17, 2 February 2012 (PST) | : I am afraid that such changes break the whole semantic framework introduced last year. I strongly recommend not changing the property names. I hope that only a few of such changes occured since they do more damage than good. Cheers --[[User:Kghbln|[[kgh]]]] 12:17, 2 February 2012 (PST) | ||
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==question about protection of page== | ==question about protection of page== | ||
Hi, curious why you think there is a need to [ | Hi, curious why you think there is a need to [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex%3ACommunity_portal&diff=139417&oldid=127437 protect this page]? I don't see it being [[vandal]]ized, and even if it was, I don't see it as a problem in normal Recent Changes patrolling fixes. Look forward to your thoughts on that. Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
: Hi Mark. It was already protected by TeraS ([ | : Hi Mark. It was already protected by TeraS ([https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex:Community_portal&diff=86778&oldid=86744 here]) - all I changed was the 'move' function to sysops only. Registered users can still edit it as before, they just now can't move it. And I have to confess, I often 'forget' to check the RecentChanges . . . I suppose we all work in different ways. Anyway, if you wish, I can revert my change in protection. Best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 14:21, 31 August 2012 (PDT) | ||
Many thanks for the update! :-) I missed that it was previously protected - no worries - if I feel like I want to unprotect the whole thing later, I will just be bold :-) RecentChanges is pretty much the first thing I read on most wiki! :-) Best, [[MarkDilley]] | Many thanks for the update! :-) I missed that it was previously protected - no worries - if I feel like I want to unprotect the whole thing later, I will just be bold :-) RecentChanges is pretty much the first thing I read on most wiki! :-) Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
Here is another [ | Here is another [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Category:All&action=history question] for me. Doesn't look like that page has been [[spam]]med very much, curious about your thinking. Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
: That was spammed really badly on [ | : That was spammed really badly on [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Category:All&diff=120899&oldid=84941 April 2012] (a really massive amount of spam links), and then five times in 2007 - all by [[IP editor]]s. Granted, I agree it hasn't been spammed 'much' recently - but I feel that [[:Category:All]] is a 'major' category - effectively a 'front door' to WikiIndex, and it is for this latter reason why I personally think this needs protection (and it is only protected from IP editors - regular logged-in users can still edit). IMVHO - there are just some crucial pages which we should pre-emtively protect. And don't the regular sysops on here have a hard-enough time in keeping on top of the spammers? :-/ [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 08:48, 8 September 2012 (PDT) | ||
: For me, an [[OpenEdit]] [[wiki]] is extremely important. I personally think an open door to new editors is important - that said, I will be fine leaving it protected for now. Cheers, [[MarkDilley]] | : For me, an [[OpenEdit]] [[wiki]] is extremely important. I personally think an open door to new editors is important - that said, I will be fine leaving it protected for now. Cheers, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
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Hi Hoof Hearted, | Hi Hoof Hearted, | ||
I just noticed that <span class= | I just noticed that <span class=plainlinks>[https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Category%3AHousekeeping_templates&diff=139604&oldid=49446 you are '''active]</span> again'''. Thats great :-) <br> Currently, I've unfortunally not much time for WikiIndex. Best regards, [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 00:32, 6 September 2012 (PDT) | ||
: Hi Wolf, Vielen Dank für den Dank :-) Good to see that someone is monitoring my work here! Sadly, some real-life challenges have gotten in the way of me spending more time here on WikiIndex . . . hopefully I have some of them back under control now! Herzliche Grüße --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 01:01, 6 September 2012 (PDT) | : Hi Wolf, Vielen Dank für den Dank :-) Good to see that someone is monitoring my work here! Sadly, some real-life challenges have gotten in the way of me spending more time here on WikiIndex . . . hopefully I have some of them back under control now! Herzliche Grüße --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 01:01, 6 September 2012 (PDT) | ||
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Thank you for fixing my wikipage up!!! <3 | Thank you for fixing my wikipage up!!! <3 | ||
[[ | [[Special:Contributions/KyuKyu|KyuKyu]] ([[User talk:KyuKyu|talk]]) 15:31, 11 October 2012 (PDT). | ||
==Cite== | ==Cite== | ||
Have you considered installing | Have you considered installing {{Mw|Extension:Cite}}? It comes in pretty handy when one is documenting events or otherwise providing links. Thanks for all your hard work on WikiIndex, by the way. It's a quite useful project. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 02:47, 13 September 2012 (PDT) | ||
:Hi - yes, WikiIndex is very useful, and interesting - I never new just how many wikis were/are out there!!! | :Hi - yes, WikiIndex is very useful, and interesting - I never new just how many wikis were/are out there!!! | ||
:Your comment on the Cite extension should really be addressed to either [[MarkDilley]] (who is the site owner), or to [[:Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki]]; as I'm not a 'crat (just a mere sysop :p ). Personally though, I'm not sure of the importance of the Cite extension - here at WikiIndex, we basically just catalogue other wikis. As yet, we don't need to provide any verifiability here on WikiIndex, we leave the verifiability issue down to the actual wikis themselves. Can you think of any specific instances here on WikiIndex where using footnotes/references would be useful? Thanks for your interesting thoughts though, and keep up your help on here, best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 03:01, 13 September 2012 (PDT) | :Your comment on the Cite extension should really be addressed to either [[MarkDilley]] (who is the site owner), or to [[:Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki]]; as I'm not a 'crat (just a mere sysop :p ). Personally though, I'm not sure of the importance of the Cite extension - here at WikiIndex, we basically just catalogue other wikis. As yet, we don't need to provide any verifiability here on WikiIndex, we leave the verifiability issue down to the actual wikis themselves. Can you think of any specific instances here on WikiIndex where using footnotes/references would be useful? Thanks for your interesting thoughts though, and keep up your help on here, best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 03:01, 13 September 2012 (PDT) | ||
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==Blocking old IPs== | ==Blocking old IPs== | ||
It's been 5 years since any of those IPs vandalized the site, so there is pretty much no chance that they are used by the same person. I personally don't think IP | It's been 5 years since any of those IPs vandalized the site, so there is pretty much no chance that they are used by the same person. I personally don't think [[IP address]]es should be banned for more then a month unless there is persistent [[vandal]]ism over a very long period of time from it. | ||
As for Plasmarelais, I don't think there was any malicious intent involved there - the redirect worked because of the site's [[Special:interwiki|interwiki]] feature. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''' 14 September 2012 | As for Plasmarelais, I don't think there was any malicious intent involved there - the redirect worked because of the site's [[Special:interwiki|interwiki]] feature. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''' 14 September 2012 | ||
:Blocking old IPs . . . yes, I suppose you are correct on that. In my defence, I'm using a netbook, and I often miss the bottom of the page (forget to scroll down) on my woefully small screen. I've noticed that many had been previously blocked for short-term periods. I'll refrain from this from now on. :) | :Blocking old IPs . . . yes, I suppose you are correct on that. In my defence, I'm using a netbook, and I often miss the bottom of the page (forget to scroll down) on my woefully small screen. I've noticed that many had been previously blocked for short-term periods. I'll refrain from this from now on. :) | ||
:Re [[ | :Re [[Special:Contributions/Plasmarelais|Plasmarelais]] - I'm not at all convinced of any 'innocence'. Plasmarelais is an admin on Wikia - and is no doubt very aware of the intricate nature of combining a 'redirect' with an 'interwiki'. IMVHO, that was quite a sneaky thing to do - and it took me a while to figure out how to 'undo' a new page creation (with no history) which went straight to a hard redirect. The correct and decent thing would be to just have a common-or-garden http:// url to his Wikia page - not the forced redirect! Finally, why just create a forced redirect to another wiki site, but not carry out any constructive editing to this wiki? Rgds [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:39, 14 September 2012 (PDT) | ||
==E-mail notification subject== | ==E-mail notification subject== | ||
Hi Hoof Hearted, <br> [ | Hi Hoof Hearted, <br> [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Enotif_subject&curid=7762&diff=140157&oldid=140133 I reverted your change]. I hope you will agree with my reasons. Best regards, [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 04:30, 17 September 2012 (PDT) | ||
==Archive== | ==Archive== | ||
Archive sounds to encyclopedic. I rather like | Archive sounds to encyclopedic. I rather like Visitors. Might [[revert]] your edit, but will ponder it some more :-) Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
:We already have [[Template: | :We already have [[Template:Newest additions]], which is obviously for newest additions. The previous name of WikiIndex:Visitors was just too 'samey' and not at all clear that it was for 'older' visitors. I just felt we needed some clarity between the two! :/ [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 07:59, 18 September 2012 (PDT) | ||
==Off Wiki Question== | ==Off Wiki Question== | ||
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==You're absolutely right== | ==You're absolutely right== | ||
with [ | with [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Template%3AWiki&diff=142069&oldid=142011 your change]! My simple goal was only to prevent clashes between text and the infobox. Thanks! --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 05:10, 12 October 2012 (PDT) | ||
:Thanks :) We really need an updated screenshot which shows licenses and backup links. :/ | :Thanks :) We really need an updated screenshot which shows licenses and backup links. :/ | ||
:: Pardon, I don't understand what you mean. Can you give me a further hint? --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 05:36, 12 October 2012 (PDT) | :: Pardon, I don't understand what you mean. Can you give me a further hint? --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 05:36, 12 October 2012 (PDT) | ||
:And do you like my colour-coding of the other templates ([[Template: | :And do you like my colour-coding of the other templates ([[Template:Multilingual main]], [[Template:Wiki engine]], [[Template:Wiki farm]] and [[Template:Weblog post]]), and my pictures in [[:Category:Wikis reachable by WikiTourBus]] and its subcats? [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 05:22, 12 October 2012 (PDT) | ||
:: The colouring and picture I like. Best --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 05:36, 12 October 2012 (PDT) | :: The colouring and picture I like. Best --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 05:36, 12 October 2012 (PDT) | ||
The screenshot is the picture at the top of the [[Template:Wiki]] page - it looks like it was made in 2006 - long before the Wiki | The screenshot is the picture at the top of the [[Template:Wiki]] page - it looks like it was made in 2006 - long before the Wiki license and backup files were added - are you able to update this please? The 'baloon' descriptions also need updating to show that some of the fields now use formal structured data from [[Special:Properties|Properties]] and [[Special:Filters|Filters]] - as defined by the [[Form:Wiki]], Best [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 05:46, 12 October 2012 (PDT) [[File:StructuredDataGraph.png|thumb|400px]] | ||
I can try to update the image, what about the text updates: Would you contribute it (for proper English)? Best --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 08:18, 12 October 2012 (PDT) | I can try to update the image, what about the text updates: Would you contribute it (for proper English)? Best --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 08:18, 12 October 2012 (PDT) | ||
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==Are you the owner?== | ==Are you the owner?== | ||
I have a question. [[User:Inquisitor Ehrenstein|Inquisitor Ehrenstein]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor Ehrenstein|talk]]) 14:09, 18 October 2012 (PDT) | I have a question. [[User:Inquisitor Ehrenstein|Inquisitor Ehrenstein]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor Ehrenstein|talk]]) 14:09, 18 October 2012 (PDT) | ||
:Nah, I'm just a lowly sysop! :p [[MarkDilley]] is the owner of WikiIndex. Any of the [[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|active sysops]] should be able to answer general questions, so you can try me if you like, or leave Mark a message if you prefer. Best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 01:49, 19 October 2012 (PDT) | :Nah, I'm just a lowly sysop! :p [[MarkDilley]] is the [[owner]] of WikiIndex. Any of the [[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|active sysops]] should be able to answer general questions, so you can try me if you like, or leave Mark a message if you prefer. Best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 01:49, 19 October 2012 (PDT) | ||
==think their edit was ok== | ==think their edit was ok== | ||
It was on their account page, showed who there were - so I think this edit your [ | It was on their account page, showed who there were - so I think this edit your [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=User:Espartannoble6&diff=0&oldid=127477 reverted] was ok. :-) My two cents. Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
==Tags etc== | ==Tags etc== | ||
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==Canonical interwiki prefixes== | ==Canonical interwiki prefixes== | ||
Here's | Here's {{Mw|Canonical interwiki prefixes|an essay}} I wrote concerning standardization of interwiki prefixes. Development of {{Mw|InterwikiMap|InterwikiMap}} is proceeding briskly; after it passes code review at WMF's Git repository, I'll start deploying it more widely. Meanwhile, I want to create a standardized list of interwiki prefixes for propagation across the wikisphere. I'm hoping that the proper prefix will be pretty obvious for most of those 20,000 wikis, but I haven't yet delved deeply into it because some data is currently processing. Maybe later today I'll be able to take a closer look. | ||
Right now, the InterwikiMap extension only propagates and retrieves prefixes and URLs. I think it should also handle other site information — basically, everything we can get our hands on that might be useful. I started a list at | Right now, the InterwikiMap extension only propagates and retrieves prefixes and URLs. I think it should also handle other site information — basically, everything we can get our hands on that might be useful. I started a list at {{Mw|Extension:InterwikiMap/Data}}. This extension will extend the API to both make more data available (e.g. for use by bots that could help update Wikiindex pages with new statistics, if you want to allow those on your site) and to retrieve such data from other wikis). A wiki could also create a custom filter saying that it wants to, say, only include prefixes that either are of a wikifactor 10 or better, or are on the whitelist. This could be rather powerful when all the functionality has been developed, and make some pretty useful improvements to Wikiindex possible. Please let me know if you have some ideas for functionality that should go in the extension. Thanks. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 10:15, 20 November 2012 (PST) | ||
==LGBT History Project== | ==LGBT History Project== | ||
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==[[Special:ReplaceText]]== | ==[[Special:ReplaceText]]== | ||
If you want to replace MediaWiki with Wikia as the engine in all [[:category: | If you want to replace MediaWiki with Wikia as the engine in all [[:category:Wikia|wikia]] articles then that is the feature to use, there's no reason to mess around with bots. | ||
:[[Special:ReplaceText]] will only work on one string of text - my issue would need to look at two strings, but replace just one . . . so I can't see how that would work????? Or have I missed something? :/ <<<confused.com>>> | :[[Special:ReplaceText]] will only work on one string of text - my issue would need to look at two strings, but replace just one . . . so I can't see how that would work????? Or have I missed something? :/ <<<confused.com>>> | ||
Frankly I don't see how Wikia counts as its own engine however, it's just MediaWiki with an ugly skin and some features. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''' 24 November 2012 | Frankly I don't see how Wikia counts as its own engine however, it's just MediaWiki with an ugly skin and some features. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''' 24 November 2012 | ||
:Wikia ''may'' be based on MediaWiki, but it is so uniquely modified to the extent that no other host or provider can display the same as Wikia - hence why it should be differenciated from traditional MediaWiki sites. MediaWiki has spawned many clones (and not all MediaWiki look-alikes are written in [[:Category:PHP|PHP]]), and those are recognised as a [[:Category:Wiki | :Wikia ''may'' be based on MediaWiki, but it is so uniquely modified to the extent that no other host or provider can display the same as Wikia - hence why it should be differenciated from traditional MediaWiki sites. MediaWiki has spawned many clones (and not all MediaWiki look-alikes are written in [[:Category:PHP|PHP]]), and those are recognised as a [[:Category:Wiki engine|wiki engine]] in their own right. Indeed, [[WikiMatrix]] now lists Wikia as a separate engine [https://www.WikiMatrix.org/wiki/Wikia:intro here] (sadly, WikiMatrix seems offline at the moment). To list all individual Wikia wikis in the [[:category:MediaWiki]] is highly distorting, especially to those genuine MediaWiki sites, and especially when [[user:emijrp|emijrp]] finishes his bot trawl through all 200,000 Wikias. IMVHO, I would suggest that it is best to index Wikia wikis under a Wikia wiki engine (especially as there are over 200,000 of them!), and keep the Wikia category a sub-category of MediaWiki. Best regards, --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 00:56, 25 November 2012 (PST) | ||
==Data== | ==Data== | ||
Hi Hoof, I started creating a wikitable of all of WikiIndex's data: http://meta.inclumedia.org/wiki/User:Nathan_Larson/Wikitable My intent was to then gather even more data, by polling all of those wikis' APIs for their | Hi Hoof, I started creating a wikitable of all of WikiIndex's data: http://meta.inclumedia.org/wiki/User:Nathan_Larson/Wikitable My intent was to then gather even more data, by polling all of those wikis' APIs for their {{Mw|API:Meta|site info}}, and add that to the table as well. However, as the size of the table increases, it becomes unmanageable for MediaWiki. I think the software just wasn't designed to handle tables (or pages) of that size. | ||
Therefore, what I will do is create a clone version of WikiIndex that allows large amounts of data to be accessed in the way that MediaWiki's designers intended, which was through templates and categories. So, I will significantly revise [[Template:Wiki]] to include the stuff that I need. And then you guys can look at it and see what aspects of that, if any, you want to incorporate into your site. | Therefore, what I will do is create a clone version of WikiIndex that allows large amounts of data to be accessed in the way that MediaWiki's designers intended, which was through templates and categories. So, I will significantly revise [[Template:Wiki]] to include the stuff that I need. And then you guys can look at it and see what aspects of that, if any, you want to incorporate into your site. | ||
There is quite a lot of data out there, if you want it. My suggestion would be to use collapsible sections in the wiki template, like what you see in the | There is quite a lot of data out there, if you want it. My suggestion would be to use collapsible sections in the wiki template, like what you see in the {{Mw|Template:Extension}} template that is used in pages like {{Mw|Extension:InterwikiMap}} or {{Mw|Extension:FlaggedRevs}}. Notice how you can expand a lengthy list of parameters, hooks, etc. Each of those hook (hook1, hook2, etc.) also puts the page in the appropriate category. We could do the same with languages, for those wikis that have more than one language, as well as other kinds of data. There is a lot of potential to make it easier for people to find wikis meeting various criteria that they're interested in. | ||
Using bots, it shouldn't be too hard to maintain, either. I'm going to create the prototype and put all the bot code out there along with instructions on how to use it. That way, if I get hit by a bus, you still have it. Or we could just skip it and move straight to working on interwiki prefixes. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 22:43, 24 November 2012 (PST) | Using bots, it shouldn't be too hard to maintain, either. I'm going to create the prototype and put all the bot code out there along with instructions on how to use it. That way, if I get hit by a bus, you still have it. Or we could just skip it and move straight to working on interwiki prefixes. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 22:43, 24 November 2012 (PST) | ||
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::*http://en.rationalwikiwikiwiki.org/wiki/Conservapedia — Conservapedia search bar | ::*http://en.rationalwikiwikiwiki.org/wiki/Conservapedia — Conservapedia search bar | ||
::*http://en.rationalwikiwikiwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki — RationalWiki search bar | ::*http://en.rationalwikiwikiwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki — RationalWiki search bar | ||
::Notice how it works. There is [http://en.rationalwikiwikiwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Wiki&action=edit this slightly modified template] which has a modified InputBox tag near the bottom. Notice one of the parameters is <code>urlparameter=search URL</code>. So, on pages like RationalWiki where the Wiki template is transcluded, you put, e.g., <code>search URL=http://rationalwiki.org/w/</code> and it knows where to go when it's searching. If you leave out the search URL, then it doesn't include the search bar. Feel free to play around with it, edit it, etc. for testing purposes. Just remember, you have to purge the page in order to get any changes to take effect. What do you think? I think it could be handy for users. It works by means of [[User:Leucosticte/InputBox.classes.php|these]] [[User:Leucosticte/InputBox.hooks.php|two]] hacked files from | ::Notice how it works. There is [http://en.rationalwikiwikiwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Wiki&action=edit this slightly modified template] which has a modified InputBox tag near the bottom. Notice one of the parameters is <code>urlparameter=search URL</code>. So, on pages like RationalWiki where the Wiki template is transcluded, you put, e.g., <code>search URL=http://rationalwiki.org/w/</code> and it knows where to go when it's searching. If you leave out the search URL, then it doesn't include the search bar. Feel free to play around with it, edit it, etc. for testing purposes. Just remember, you have to purge the page in order to get any changes to take effect. What do you think? I think it could be handy for users. It works by means of [[User:Leucosticte/InputBox.classes.php|these]] [[User:Leucosticte/InputBox.hooks.php|two]] hacked files from {{Mw|Extension:InputBox}}. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 14:39, 29 November 2012 (PST) | ||
==[[WikiMANNia]]== | ==[[WikiMANNia]]== | ||
Thank you for your work! --[[Special:Contributions/79.246.243.144|79.246.243.144]] 23:53, 1 December 2012 (PST) | Thank you for your work! --[[Special:Contributions/79.246.243.144|79.246.243.144]] 23:53, 1 December 2012 (PST) | ||
:Your welcome. Does WikiMANNia have a 'portal' page which signposts to individual language wikis, similar to say | :Your welcome. Does WikiMANNia have a 'portal' page which signposts to individual language wikis, similar to say https://www.Wikibooks.org ?? --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 04:32, 2 December 2012 (PST) | ||
::At the moment not. Spanish, italian and english versions are still mostly empty. We need a little bit more time. --[[Special:Contributions/79.246.249.143|79.246.249.143]] 15:06, 5 December 2012 (PST) | ::At the moment not. Spanish, italian and english versions are still mostly empty. We need a little bit more time. --[[Special:Contributions/79.246.249.143|79.246.249.143]] 15:06, 5 December 2012 (PST) | ||