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Should there be a distinction between wikis that are bilingual (e.g. [[WikiIndex]]-English & French), multilingual (e.g. [[Wikimedia Commons]]-multiple languages used within the same wiki), and multiple languages (e.g. most [[Wikimedia Foundation]] projects, such as the [[Wikipedia]] that have versions in different languages [as subdomains])? [[User:BlankVerse]] | <small>[[User talk:BlankVerse|talk]]</small> 00:44, 27 Mar 2006 (EST)
==Distinction?==
Should there be a distinction between wikis that are bilingual (e.g. [[WikiIndex]]: English & French), multilingual (e.g. [[Wikimedia Commons]]: multiple languages used within the same wiki), and multiple languages (e.g. most [[:Category:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia Foundation]] projects, such as the [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] that have versions in different languages [as subdomains])? [[User:BlankVerse]] | <small>[[User talk:BlankVerse|talk]]</small> 00:44, 27 Mar 2006 (EST)


==Merge to "Language"?==
==Merge to "Language"?==
Wiki Language is confusing - sounds like it's about wiki markup or some such thing. Merge into [[:Category:Language]]? Articles in [[:Category:Language]] can stay in the root category, and the subcategory can be for specific languages. --[[User:Singkong2005|Chris Watkins a.k.a. Singkong2005]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</sup></small> 21:39, 2 September 2006 (EDT)
Wiki Language is confusing - sounds like it's about wiki markup or some such thing. Merge into [[:category: Language]]? Articles in Category:Language can stay in the root [[category]], and the subcategory can be for specific languages. --[[User:Singkong2005|Chris Watkins a.k.a. Singkong2005]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</sup></small> 21:39, 2 September 2006 (EDT)


: Seems like a reasonable suggestion to me! [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 21:40, 3 September 2006 (EDT)
: Seems like a reasonable suggestion to me! [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 21:40, 3 September 2006 (EDT)


=="Category:Latin" vs "Category:Wiki Latin"==
==Category:Latin vs Category:Wiki Latin==
==language category simplification proposal==
===Language category simplification proposal===
Someone is starting to set up two parallel categories of languages.
Someone is starting to set up two parallel [[Special:Categories|categories]] of languages.
*categories like "[[:Category: Wiki Latin]]"
*categories like "[[:Category: Wiki Latin]]"
*categories like "[[:Category: Latin]]"
*categories like "[[:Category: Latin]]"


Alas, currently most articles in such categories are miscategorized -- they have one tag when they "should" have the other tag.
Alas, currently most articles in such [[categories]] are miscategorized -- they have one tag when they "should" have the other tag.


'''Category simplification proposal:'''
;Category simplification proposal
* Add one new category that indicates that our article is about a wiki that discusses some language itself; perhaps [[:Category: linguistic]] or [[:Category: language]].
*Add one new category that indicates that our article is about a wiki that discusses some language itself; perhaps [[:category: Linguistic]] or [[:category: Language]].
* Get rid of all the "Category:Wiki Latin" and similar categories; edit pages that use them to use the simpler "Category:Latin" and similar categories.
*Get rid of all the 'Category:Wiki Latin' and similar categories; edit pages that use them to use the simpler [[:Category:Latin]] and similar categories.


Advantage: one kind of language category, rather than two, saves time and effort and confusion.
Advantage: one kind of language category, rather than two, saves time and effort and confusion.
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Do the advantages outweigh the disadvantages? Are there other advantages/disadvantages that I am missing? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 15:17, 3 February 2009 (EST)
Do the advantages outweigh the disadvantages? Are there other advantages/disadvantages that I am missing? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 15:17, 3 February 2009 (EST)


:I think Speckmade initiated the parallel categories for languages. I've tried to help correct pages that ended up being miscategorized as a result of the change. However, I would prefer the simpler solution of putting all wikis about language itself into a [[:Category:Linguistics]] or some such. The disadvantage of not being able to easily find a specific language is true, but I think it's an easier-to-maintain solution. Also, if we find that a sub-category is needed for any particular language due to a large number of entries in the linguistics category, we can always add that later. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 20:36, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
:I think Speckmade initiated the parallel categories for languages. I've tried to help correct pages that ended up being miscategorized as a result of the change. However, I would prefer the simpler solution of putting all wikis about language itself into a [[:category: Linguistic]] or some such. The disadvantage of not being able to easily find a specific language is true, but I think it's an easier-to-maintain solution. Also, if we find that a sub-category is needed for any particular language due to a large number of entries in the linguistics category, we can always add that later. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 20:36, 30 March 2009 (EDT)


==could we use some system of ISO codes?==
==Could we use some system of ISO codes?==
'''[[:Category:Wiki Language]]''' Rather than use only English names (easy for navigation but arbitrary and defeats multi-lingualism), we could use some system of ISO codes such as "[[:Category:en (English)]]", "[[:Category:de (German, Deutsch)]]", "[[:Category:es (Spanish, español)]]", "[[:Category:zh (Chinese, 中文)]]". This would have some consistency and standardization while also allowing English to remain a lingua franca and let users find content in their own language. Thoughts? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 16:02, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
'''[[:Category: Wiki language]]''' Rather than use only English names (easy for navigation but arbitrary and defeats multi-lingualism), we could use some system of ISO codes such as 'Category:en (English)', 'Category:de (German, Deutsch)', 'Category:es (Spanish, español)', 'Category:zh (Chinese, 中文)'. This would have some consistency and standardization while also allowing English to remain a {{Cambridge-Dictionary|lingua franca}} and let users find content in their own language. Thoughts? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 16:02, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
: I think this is a fantastic idea.  What can folks do to help? ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: I think this is a fantastic idea.  What can folks do to help? ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
:: '''Converting''' I think it would be easy to do by myself. I'll leave this conversation here for a week or two and see if there's more feedback. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 00:54, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
:: '''Converting''' I think it would be easy to do by myself. I'll leave this conversation here for a week or two and see if there's more feedback. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 00:54, 4 July 2014 (UTC)