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Should there be a distinction between wikis that are bilingual (e.g. [[WikiIndex]] | {{Talk header}}{{TOC right}} | ||
==Distinction?== | |||
Should there be a distinction between wikis that are bilingual (e.g. [[WikiIndex]]: English & French), multilingual (e.g. [[Wikimedia Commons]]: multiple languages used within the same wiki), and multiple languages (e.g. most [[:Category:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia Foundation]] projects, such as the [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] that have versions in different languages [as subdomains])? [[User:BlankVerse]] | <small>[[User talk:BlankVerse|talk]]</small> 00:44, 27 Mar 2006 (EST) | |||
== Merge to "Language"? == | ==Merge to "Language"?== | ||
Wiki Language is confusing - sounds like it's about wiki markup or some such thing. Merge into [[:category: Language]]? Articles in Category:Language can stay in the root [[category]], and the subcategory can be for specific languages. --[[User:Singkong2005|Chris Watkins a.k.a. Singkong2005]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</sup></small> 21:39, 2 September 2006 (EDT) | |||
Wiki Language is | : Seems like a reasonable suggestion to me! [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 21:40, 3 September 2006 (EDT) | ||
==Category:Latin vs Category:Wiki Latin== | |||
===Language category simplification proposal=== | |||
Someone is starting to set up two parallel [[Special:Categories|categories]] of languages. | |||
*categories like "[[:Category: Wiki Latin]]" | |||
*categories like "[[:Category: Latin]]" | |||
Alas, currently most articles in such [[categories]] are miscategorized -- they have one tag when they "should" have the other tag. | |||
;Category simplification proposal | |||
*Add one new category that indicates that our article is about a wiki that discusses some language itself; perhaps [[:category: Linguistic]] or [[:category: Language]]. | |||
*Get rid of all the 'Category:Wiki Latin' and similar categories; edit pages that use them to use the simpler [[:Category:Latin]] and similar categories. | |||
: | Advantage: one kind of language category, rather than two, saves time and effort and confusion. | ||
Disadvantage: people looking for a wiki that discusses the Latin language (or discusses some other specific language) must a little more work -- instead of going right to a category that exclusively lists "wiki that discuss the Latin language", they must dig through a long list of wiki in "Category: linguistic" or "Category: language" looking for the wiki that discuss their specific language of interest. | |||
Do the advantages outweigh the disadvantages? Are there other advantages/disadvantages that I am missing? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 15:17, 3 February 2009 (EST) | |||
:I think Speckmade initiated the parallel categories for languages. I've tried to help correct pages that ended up being miscategorized as a result of the change. However, I would prefer the simpler solution of putting all wikis about language itself into a [[:category: Linguistic]] or some such. The disadvantage of not being able to easily find a specific language is true, but I think it's an easier-to-maintain solution. Also, if we find that a sub-category is needed for any particular language due to a large number of entries in the linguistics category, we can always add that later. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 20:36, 30 March 2009 (EDT) | |||
==Could we use some system of ISO codes?== | |||
'''[[:Category: Wiki language]]''' Rather than use only English names (easy for navigation but arbitrary and defeats multi-lingualism), we could use some system of ISO codes such as 'Category:en (English)', 'Category:de (German, Deutsch)', 'Category:es (Spanish, español)', 'Category:zh (Chinese, 中文)'. This would have some consistency and standardization while also allowing English to remain a {{Cambridge-Dictionary|lingua franca}} and let users find content in their own language. Thoughts? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 16:02, 29 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
: I think this is a fantastic idea. What can folks do to help? ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | |||
:: '''Converting''' I think it would be easy to do by myself. I'll leave this conversation here for a week or two and see if there's more feedback. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 00:54, 4 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
I'm not sure this is a good idea. Previous attempts of extended multilingual efforts on WikiIndex failed. The German de.WikiIndex.org failed, as did French & Swedish translations - despite having active editors in those languages. | |||
I would also expect that only a tiny minority of folks <u>fully</u> understand ISO language codes. --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 23:58, 5 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
: '''Language sorting''' Then how should we sort them? Do we want this site to be multi-lingual? I would certainly hope so. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 05:53, 6 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
:: I look at is as an "easy" way to take a step in that direction. Makes it more friendly to multi-linguists. Or at least that is the perception I have. ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | |||
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