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==Language==
==Language==
should the langauge here be [[:Category:Wiki Multilingual|multilingual]] or [[:Category:Wiki English|english]]? --[[User:Rathbone|Ray]] 11:43, 22 Jan 2006 (EST)
Should the language here be [[:Category:Wiki Multilingual|multilingual]] or [[:Category:Wiki English|english]]? --[[User:Rathbone|Ray]] 11:43, 22 Jan 2006 (EST)


==Publicize!==
==Publicize!==
It is a shame that [[WikiIndex]] has such limited community visibility!  Would one of the [[founder]]s please put articles about WikiIndex in at least [[Wikinfo]] and [[WikiKnowledge]], where I believe they would be welcome?  I would do it, but I can't figure out the cross-licensing hassles...  Or, please release a description of WikiIndex into the Public Domain, that anyone can freely post anywhere?  (Do quite like the WikiIndex History article, by the way.)  Took me over a day of searching to stumble on the existence of WI -- Let's try to make it easier for others to find.  (I understand, there is really nothing we can do about the low visibility in the wiki-which-must-not-be-named, where it would be most appropriate and useful.) --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.200.5|69.87.200.5]] 18:07, 4 February 2007 (PST)
It is a shame that [[WikiIndex]] has such limited community visibility!  Would one of the [[founder]]s please put articles about WikiIndex in at least [[Wikinfo]] and [[WikiKnowledge]], where I believe they would be welcome?  I would do it, but I can't figure out the cross-licensing hassles...  Or, please release a description of WikiIndex into the Public Domain, that anyone can freely post anywhere?  (Do quite like the WikiIndex History article, by the way.)  Took me over a day of searching to stumble on the existence of WI -- Let's try to make it easier for others to find.  (I understand, there is really nothing we can do about the low visibility in the wiki-which-must-not-be-named, where it would be most appropriate and useful.) --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.200.5|69.87.200.5]] 18:07, 4 February 2007 (PST)
:: Much discussion about the next step for WikiIndex at RecentChangesCamp in Portland this last weekend (Feb 2-4, 2007) see the [http://2007.RecentChangesCamp.org/Wiki_Index session notes]. The theme of the session was really how to make it more of a community resource and we welcome any discussion/suggestions along that line. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 07:57, 5 February 2007 (PST)
:Much discussion about the next step for WikiIndex at [[RecentChangesCamp]] in [[:Category:Portland|Portland]] this last weekend (Feb 2-4, 2007) see the [http://2007.RecentChangesCamp.org/Wiki_Index session notes]. The theme of the session was really how to make it more of a community resource and we welcome any discussion/suggestions along that line. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 07:57, 5 February 2007 (PST)
::: So much to talk about...  Could someone please work on giving us all access to useful recent traffic/pageview data, so we can see how much general use this wiki is getting, and whether it is increasing?  [[Special:PopularPages]] would almost be useful, but needs at least one more column for "views in the last 30 days" -- total views ever is just not very useful (and it doesn't even tell us, starting from when). [[Special:Statistics]] also suffers from not giving us any recent-time-window data.  What we really want to see is some nice weekly/monthly graphs for the last year. *** Its weird that the standard [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] software is so limited in some ways. ***  Many websites have not populated their [[Project:Copyrights]] page!  You should add a direct link for that to your template here for wiki articles. (It has not been populated at the [[RecentChangesCamp]] wiki you link to above.) --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.195|69.87.199.195]] 07:32, 6 February 2007 (PST)
::So much to talk about...  Could someone please work on giving us all access to useful recent traffic / page-view data, so we can see how much general use this wiki is getting, and whether it is increasing?  [[Special:PopularPages]] would almost be useful, but needs at least one more column for "views in the last 30 days" -- total views ever is just not very useful (and it doesn't even tell us, starting from when). [[Special:Statistics]] also suffers from not giving us any recent-time-window data.  What we really want to see is some nice weekly/monthly graphs for the last year. *** Its weird that the standard [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] software is so limited in some ways. ***  Many websites have not populated their [[Project:Copyrights]] page!  You should add a direct link for that to your template here for wiki articles. (It has not been populated at the [[RecentChangesCamp]] wiki you link to above.) --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.195|69.87.199.195]] 07:32, 6 February 2007 (PST)


==Favicon==
==Favicon==
Why doesn't this website have a favicon? --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.195|69.87.199.195]] 07:34, 6 February 2007 (PST)
Why doesn't this website have a favicon? --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.195|69.87.199.195]] 07:34, 6 February 2007 (PST)
: ''I like the way you folks are thinking!  I created a favicon [[:File:Preview 16x16.png]] but don't know where to store the .ico - after I can get it stored on the web, then I can ask [[John Stanton]] to add it.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]''
:I like the way you folks are thinking!  I created a favicon File:Preview 16x16.png but don't know where to store the .ico - after I can get it stored on the web, then I can ask [[John Stanton]] to add it.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:: The generic standard is, name it favicon.ico and store it in the html root folder.  But each page served can call out a favicon file, I guess, so maybe [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] has its own special way of doing things?  I'm afraid your design takes the standard graphic too small -- I could not tell what it was supposed to be, even though I am familiar with the current graphic, until I compared them visually.  I think it needs to be "simplified", plainer, more contrast, to work on such a small scale.  And maybe the keys should be re-arranged but better use the square area available?  Maybe just two separate keys? --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.203.22|69.87.203.22]] 06:36, 12 February 2007 (PST)
::The generic standard is, name it favicon.ico and store it in the html root folder.  But each page served can call out a favicon file, I guess, so maybe [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] has its own special way of doing things?  I'm afraid your design takes the standard graphic too small -- I could not tell what it was supposed to be, even though I am familiar with the current graphic, until I compared them visually.  I think it needs to be "simplified", plainer, more contrast, to work on such a small scale.  And maybe the keys should be re-arranged but better use the square area available?  Maybe just two separate keys? --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.203.22|69.87.203.22]] 06:36, 12 February 2007 (PST)


==Feedback/Suggestions==
==Feedback/Suggestions==
There seems to be no clear system here for how/where to discuss how [[WikiIndex]] works.  This page is one place.  [[WikiIndex talk:Community talk]] is another place.  [[WikiIndex:FrequentlyAskedQuestions]] is another place.  [[User talk]] pages is another place, particularly those pages of the core folk (you can get a list of them here: [[Special:ListUsers]]).  (In some cases, you can discuss the matter right at the appropriate location, but for some matters there is no such location.) --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.67|69.87.199.67]] 06:15, 15 February 2007 (PST)
There seems to be no clear system here for how/where to discuss how [[WikiIndex]] works.  This page is one place.  [[WikiIndex talk:Community talk]] is another place.  [[WikiIndex:Frequently asked questions]] is another place.  [[WikiIndex:Talk pages for wiki people|User talk]] pages is another place, particularly those pages of the core folk (you can get a list of them here: [[Special:ListUsers]]).  (In some cases, you can discuss the matter right at the appropriate location, but for some matters there is no such location.) --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.67|69.87.199.67]] 06:15, 15 February 2007 (PST)


==Be merciful==
==Be merciful==
Let us spread mercy, not conflict.  Let us drop the boilerplate phrase "'''edited mercilessly'''".  It pretends to be a cute warning to newcomers, but is actually in deadly earnest.  It is no coincidence that [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] is awash in a tidal wave of antagonism, building on such a base. Let's not repeat this threat to contributors, nor encourage [[editor]]s to treat other's work in such a fashion.  Let us rather encourage ourselves to be '''sincere, careful, and considerate'''. *** Here is a suggestion for improved boilerplate:
Let us spread mercy, not conflict.  Let us drop the boilerplate phrase "'''edited mercilessly'''".  It pretends to be a cute warning to newcomers, but is actually in deadly earnest.  It is no coincidence that [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] is awash in a tidal wave of antagonism, building on such a base. Let's not repeat this threat to contributors, nor encourage [[editor]]s to treat other's work in such a fashion.  Let us rather encourage ourselves to be '''sincere, careful, and considerate'''. *** Here is a suggestion for improved boilerplate:
:All contributions to WikiIndex are considered to be released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. Logos are displayed here as [[WikiIndex:Fair use|fair use]], with copyrights retained by their owners (see [[Project:Copyrights]] for details). '''Anything you write here may be changed by others, and redistributed.''' You are promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION!
:All contributions to WikiIndex are considered to be released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. Logos are displayed here as [[WikiIndex:Fair use|fair use]], with copyrights retained by their owners (see [[WikiIndex:Copyrights]] for details). '''Anything you write here may be changed by others, and redistributed.''' You are promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION!
:: I like this.  What is the page to edit for me to change it?  [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 10:03, 17 February 2007 (PST)
::I like this.  What is the page to edit for me to change it?  [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 10:03, 17 February 2007 (PST)
::: Good question.  There are two superficial matches at [[Special:Allmessages]], linking to [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]] and [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning2]].  Those two pages are locked from edits, but they don't really match the edit boilerplate, anyway, so the true source seems more deeply hidden in the software. --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.202.225|69.87.202.225]] 10:27, 17 February 2007 (PST)
:::Good question.  There are two superficial matches at [[Special:Allmessages]], linking to [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]] and [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning2]].  Those two pages are locked from edits, but they don't really match the edit boilerplate, anyway, so the true source seems more deeply hidden in the software. --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.202.225|69.87.202.225]] 10:27, 17 February 2007 (PST)
:::: It seems I've made the change to [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]] and it works.  Please verify. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 03:59, 27 February 2007 (PST)
::::It seems I've made the change to [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]] and it works.  Please verify. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 03:59, 27 February 2007 (PST)


Also, it would improve the editing process if this boilerplate were moved down below the Summary box and Save button. Or, maybe Summary/Save could be right over the toolbar above the edit box? --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.67|69.87.199.67]] 06:45, 15 February 2007 (PST)
Also, it would improve the editing process if this boilerplate were moved down below the Summary box and Save button. Or, maybe Summary/Save could be right over the toolbar above the edit box? --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.67|69.87.199.67]] 06:45, 15 February 2007 (PST)
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==Deletion?==
==Deletion?==
Why does WikiIndex have a page about itself? I thought that this was a site to document ''other wikis''. I could be mistaken, but just thought I'd bring it up. <b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<font color="#D47C14">itsJamie</font>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 14:22, 2 February 2017 (PST)
Why does WikiIndex have a page about itself? I thought that this was a site to document ''other wikis''. I could be mistaken, but just thought I'd bring it up. <b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<font color=#D47C14>itsJamie</font>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 14:22, 2 February 2017 (PST)


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