WikiIndex:Talk pages for wiki people

WikiIndex: Talk pages for wiki people — this project page describes specific namespace pages – commonly known as 'talk' pages, also known as 'discussion' pages – which are available to all registered users, and also all IP address pages which have edited this WikiIndex wiki.

Alerting to personal messages

Users unfamiliar with all of the clever things the MediaWiki software may not be fully unaware of the intricate detail of this.

Every persons' user page has a corresponding talk page (correctly known as 'user talk'). Not just any random page to add to the jumble: it is special for its user. As soon as a user talk page is edited (by anyone other than the 'owner' of its respective user talk page), the MediaWiki software creates a message in the form of a highly visible banner to that user – displayed at the top of any page being viewed; as soon as that user logs in, or during any page transition whilst logged in (such as a page preview, or even a simple page refresh); advising that they have new messages on their user talk page. This message banner disappears after the user opens their user talk page; which is very easy to do because the message includes wikilinks to their talk page, including a direct link to the section having been changed. An example is shown below:

You have a new message from another user (last change).

Newer versions of the MediaWiki software add the option of a wikilink that goes to their user talk page that shows the latest difference; which is extra-useful if your visitor added something not at the end but under an appropriate section heading partway down the page, or edited at more than one section heading. You see the text that was added, and can then work your way through previous edits to see if there are any you missed.

If two or more other persons edit your user talk page, the message banner has some subtle changes in its display; for example, should three persons have edited your user talk page, it would appear as follows:

You have new messages from 3 users (last changes).

In the above example, it can be deduced that three edits (and maybe more) have been made to your user talk page. When you click on the 'last changes' link, your user talk page will open on a 'diff' display; as in: Difference between revisions of "User talk:Your Username". This will show an aggregated view of all edits, alongside your last-viewed version of your user talk page; and will state in brackets the number of 'hidden' revisions, for example: (4 intermediate revisions by 3 users not shown). If you wish to view each individual edit consecutively, click on 'Older edit' near the top of the left column, then click on the 'Newer edit' in the right column, and again on 'Newer edit' until you reach the latest version.

Please note: the above example banners are for illustrative purposes only, as they do not contain actual diff links.

User talk page wiki-etiquette

The now long-established convention on Wikipedia, its Wikimedia Foundation related projects, and several derived works – is that nobody should alter anything that someone else has written on anybody else's user talk page – unless they wish to fix red links, typos, or disambiguations, or if it's offensive, etc., (and maybe not even if it is - it may be useful evidence!). Here on WikiIndex, whilst we have zero ties to the Wikimedia Foundation, we prefer to follow this same ideal; not because we somehow wish to follow said wikis, but merely because it is common courtesy. It is important to note that some WikiIndex folks positively encourage others to make minor changes to their messages; typically when English is not their first language. However, irrespective of any 'policy' or otherwise, if an individual person makes a specific request that their talk page messages are not altered, please respect their wishes.

Users occasionally archive the older parts of their user talk pages, with a wikilink to their archive (which can easily be a sub-page of their talk page); for example: [[User talk:Robin Patterson/archive1|Archive Aug-Nov 2005]]. Please see template:TalkPageArchive, as this will auto-include any archived user talk page and / or other namespace talk page into category:Talk page archive.

User talk pages should primarily be about that user's editing in general, and can also include friendly greetings, questions, or clarifications. It is perfectly fine and acceptable to use these talk page spaces for general 'chit-chat' conversation and collaboration, but WikiIndex does not support nor allow harassment of any kind on this site. Users have become accustomed to special expectations of ownership over their own talk pages, so if someone asks you to not post there or not post certain kind of content, then it is expected that you will abide by that request.

Talk pages in general

Question has come up here on WikiIndex about the usefulness of having information on two pages, when it would easily fit onto one page, thus using the talk page in a different way than Wikipedia.

Is this a question about wiki people talk pages, or talk pages in general? TedErnst | talk 14:03, 22 May 2006 (EDT)

See also

• WikiIndex: Editing etiquette
• WikiIndex: Policies and Guidelines
• Help:Using talk pages — at the English Wikipedia