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==Edit history==
==Edit history==
This [[:Category:Templates|template]] was created from the existing table at [[:Category:Wiki Status]].  For its edit history, please see [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Category:Wiki_Status&action=history here]. --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 13:58, 2 January 2012 (PST)
This [[:Category:Templates|template]] was created from the existing table at [[:Category:Wiki status]].  For its edit history, please see [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Category:Wiki_Status&action=history here]. --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 13:58, 2 January 2012 (PST)
: um, wow, nice work!!  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: um, wow, nice work!!  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
::Thank-you :)  Are there any other languages which need to be added, or any other amendments? --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 03:37, 3 January 2012 (PST)
::Thank-you :)  Are there any other languages which need to be added, or any other amendments? --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 03:37, 3 January 2012 (PST)
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==Dead vs Inactive==
==Dead vs Inactive==
Dead, maybe the action for dead wiki is to make the template inactive, not really needing inactive as a stage... not sure, will ponder, look forward to your thoughts on it. Best, [[MarkDilley]]
Dead, maybe the action for dead wiki is to make the template inactive, not really needing inactive as a stage... not sure, will ponder, look forward to your thoughts on it. Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:Aha - I didn't want to make any drastic changes – but yes, I agree, we have un-necessary duplication.  [[:Category:Dead]] currently has 270 articles, and [[:Category:Inactive]] currently has 860 articles.  I would personally prefer that the Dead category be kept; as Inactive has the potential to be confused with [[:Category:Dormant]].  In terms of templates, we currently have both [[Template:Wiki dead]] and [[Template:Inactive]] – 'Wiki dead' renders a page better than 'Inactive' – the least preferred one can be redirected to the other.  Which ever way you wish to proceed with the 1000+ affected articles, you'll need to create a [[:Category:User Bot|bot account]] to process all the changes :p --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 12:16, 8 January 2012 (PST)
:Aha - I didn't want to make any drastic changes – but yes, I agree, we have un-necessary duplication.  [[:Category:Dead]] currently has 270 articles, and Category:Inactive currently has 860 articles.  I would personally prefer that the Dead category be kept; as Inactive has the potential to be confused with [[:Category:Dormant]].  In terms of templates, we currently have both 'Template:Wiki dead' and 'Template:Inactive' – 'Wiki dead' renders a page better than 'Inactive' – the least preferred one can be redirected to the other.  Which ever way you wish to proceed with the 1000+ affected articles, you'll need to create a [[:Category:User bot|bot account]] to process all the changes :p --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 12:16, 8 January 2012 (PST)
 
::It doesnt look like this has been resolved yet. The English descriptions for "dead" and "inactive" are still identical, whereas in other languages they are seemingly differentiated. A better description of inactive appears on the [[:Category:Inactive]] page: "An Inactive wiki is a wiki that was once Active but can temporarily not be connect to; or, displays an error." (although "connect" should read "connected"). I think "temporarily" is the key word here, although in reality this can probably only be presumed. --[[User:Thedugganaut|thedugganaut]] ([[User talk:Thedugganaut|talk]]) 15:26, 14 September 2012 (PDT)  


::It doesnt look like this has been resolved yet. The English descriptions for "dead" and "inactive" are still identical, whereas in other languages they are seemingly differentiated. A better description of inactive appears on the Category:Inactive page: "An Inactive wiki is a wiki that was once Active but can temporarily not be connect to; or, displays an error." (although "connect" should read "connected"). I think "temporarily" is the key word here, although in reality this can probably only be presumed. --[[User:Thedugganaut|thedugganaut]] ([[User talk:Thedugganaut|talk]]) 15:26, 14 September 2012 (PDT)


==Wikis that partially shut down for other reasons: "Goal Abandoned"==
==Wikis that partially shut down for other reasons: "Goal Abandoned"==
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|+<big><big>[[:Category:Wiki Status|Wiki Status]] comparison table</big></big><br><small>(scroll down past the table to see the list of [[wiki]]s in each [[Special:Categories|category]])</small>
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!style="background:#aacccc; width: 8%"|status<br>name
!style="background:#aacccc; width:13%"|description<br><small>([[:Category:Wiki English|en]])</small>
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!style="background:#aacccc; width:10%"|说明<br><small>([[:Category:Wiki Chinese|zh]])</small>
!style="background:#aacccc; width:10%"|说明<br><small>([[:Category:Wiki Chinese|zh]])</small>
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!style=background:pink|[[:Category:GoalAbandoned|Goal<br>Abandoned]]
!style=background:pink|[[:Category:Goal abandoned|Goal<br>Abandoned]]
|archive: there is content, but no activity because the [[wiki]] mission has been abandoned
|archive: there is content, but no activity because the [[wiki]] mission has been abandoned
|archive: il y a du contenu, mais aucune activité car la mission du [[wiki]] a été abandonnée
|archive: il y a du contenu, mais aucune activité car la mission du [[wiki]] a été abandonnée
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[[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 20:05, 11 September 2012 (PDT)
[[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 20:05, 11 September 2012 (PDT)


:Interesting train of thought . . . I quite like this idea, though I'm not sure I like the 'GoalAbandoned' name . . . maybe just 'Abandoned'.  I'm very much aware of another wiki which was abandoned (due to a threat of legal action over an alleged infringement of a specific British law - the site owner got the jitters, and pulled the plug).  Let's see how this idea progresses.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:58, 12 September 2012 (PDT)
:Interesting train of thought . . . I quite like this idea, though I'm not sure I like the 'Goal abandoned' name . . . maybe just 'Abandoned'.  I'm very much aware of another wiki which was abandoned (due to a threat of legal action over an alleged infringement of a specific British law - the site owner got the jitters, and pulled the plug).  Let's see how this idea progresses.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:58, 12 September 2012 (PDT)
::There have also been wikis that were accidentally abandoned because the owner vanished, either because he died, went to jail, or was otherwise unable to get to a computer. [[Libertapedia]]'s owner was absent for 14 months, during which time one of the sysops took over, kicked off a bunch of users, protected a bunch of pages, and conformed the site to his pro-eugenics views. I think there are actually quite a few abandoned wikis out there, although I'm not sure where one draws the line between a site owner who is simply extremely inattentive and one who is totally gone. A lot of site owners neglect their wikis to some degree or another. [[Mises Wiki]]'s tech support sucks; reported glitches remain unfixed for months sometimes, but the wiki is part of an otherwise vibrant website.
::There have also been wikis that were accidentally abandoned because the owner vanished, either because he died, went to jail, or was otherwise unable to get to a computer. [[Libertapedia]]'s owner was absent for 14 months, during which time one of the sysops took over, kicked off a bunch of users, protected a bunch of pages, and conformed the site to his pro-eugenics views. I think there are actually quite a few abandoned wikis out there, although I'm not sure where one draws the line between a site owner who is simply extremely inattentive and one who is totally gone. A lot of site owners neglect their wikis to some degree or another. [[Mises Wiki]]'s tech support sucks; reported glitches remain unfixed for months sometimes, but the wiki is part of an otherwise vibrant website.


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:::Regarding the 'inactive' vs 'dead' - there are problems with both - and I don't think we have reached a satisfactory resolution.  Mark prefers to use <code>{{template|inactive}}</code>, but this has (IMVHO) disatrous consquences (it basically strips out all categorisation from the former infobox).  And the <code>{{template|wiki dead}}</code> template is very untidy.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:47, 14 September 2012 (PDT)
:::Regarding the 'inactive' vs 'dead' - there are problems with both - and I don't think we have reached a satisfactory resolution.  Mark prefers to use <code>{{template|inactive}}</code>, but this has (IMVHO) disatrous consquences (it basically strips out all categorisation from the former infobox).  And the <code>{{template|wiki dead}}</code> template is very untidy.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:47, 14 September 2012 (PDT)


== Big gap between dormant and active ==
==Big gap between dormant and active==
Where does one draw the line between dormant and active? There are some wikis with not much activity other than a continual battle against spam. They keep the spam down but don't accomplish much else. This chart has no middle ground between dormant and active, though; there are a lot of wikis with low, but greater than zero, activity. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 23:43, 13 September 2012 (PDT)
Where does one draw the line between dormant and active? There are some wikis with not much activity other than a continual battle against spam. They keep the spam down but don't accomplish much else. This chart has no middle ground between dormant and active, though; there are a lot of wikis with low, but greater than zero, activity. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 23:43, 13 September 2012 (PDT)
:I would say [[:Category:NeedsLove]].  I've been using this for wikis which have little or no 'constructive' editing, but have occasional 'maintenance' edits to delete spam.  Does this seem ok to you?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:54, 14 September 2012 (PDT)
:I would say [[:Category:Needs love]].  I've been using this for wikis which have little or no 'constructive' editing, but have occasional 'maintenance' edits to delete spam.  Does this seem ok to you?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:54, 14 September 2012 (PDT)
::That makes sense, although the description may need to be broadened because "functional but empty, or over-run by spam" doesn't really cover those situations in which the wiki has content, is kept free of spam, but has only a small amount of (but greater than zero) other constructive edits. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 15:59, 14 September 2012 (PDT)
::That makes sense, although the description may need to be broadened because "functional but empty, or over-run by spam" doesn't really cover those situations in which the wiki has content, is kept free of spam, but has only a small amount of (but greater than zero) other constructive edits. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 15:59, 14 September 2012 (PDT)


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::Hello, thanks for your comments :)  Please see my reply on your [[User talk:87.193.142.67|talk page]] - I feel that may be a better way of improving the german language translation in this template.  Warmest regards,  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:41, 1 February 2013 (PST)
::Hello, thanks for your comments :)  Please see my reply on your [[User talk:87.193.142.67|talk page]] - I feel that may be a better way of improving the german language translation in this template.  Warmest regards,  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:41, 1 February 2013 (PST)
::: The template is not free to edit. Normally I'm only here to update our project related article. Spontanously I translate something here or there. But I'm busy enough with our WikiMANNia-Project. There we have the contra problem, we can not find english speaking editors. :-) See you! --[[Special:Contributions/87.193.142.67|87.193.142.67]] 06:18, 2 February 2013 (PST)
::: The template is not free to edit. Normally I'm only here to update our project related article. Spontanously I translate something here or there. But I'm busy enough with our WikiMANNia-Project. There we have the contra problem, we can not find english speaking editors. :-) See you! --[[Special:Contributions/87.193.142.67|87.193.142.67]] 06:18, 2 February 2013 (PST)
==Tagalog translation==
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{|class="wikitable mw-collapsible" style="margin:1em 0 1em 0; padding:0px" width=100%
!colspan=3|<span style=font-size:22px>[[:Category:Wiki status|Wiki status]] [[Template:Wiki status|comparison table]]</span><br><span style=font-size:11px>''click on the individual status [[Special:Categories|category]] links in the coloured left column for a fuller detail of each''<br>(scroll down past the table to see the list of [[wiki]]s in each category, click on <nowiki>[Collapse]</nowiki> at the top right to hide this table)</span>
|-
!style="background:#aacccc; width: 8%"|[[:Category:Wiki|wiki]] [[:Category:Wiki status|status]]<br>name
!style="background:#aacccc; width:14%"|description<br>([[:Category:Wiki English|en]])
!style="background:#aacccc; width:14%"|Tagalog<br>([[:Category:Wiki Tagalog|tl]])
|-valign=top
!style=background:lightgreen; valign=top|[[:Category:Vibrant|Vibrant]]
|<!--en-->more than active with considerable <u>constructive</u> activity
|<!--tl-->mas marami sa aktibo na may konsiderableng <u>importanteng</u> aktibidad
|-valign=top
!style=background:lightgreen|[[:Category:Active|Active]]
|<!--en-->[[wiki]] in regular use and not overrun by [[spam]]
|<!--tl-->ang [[wiki]] ay nasa regular na paggamit at hindi puno ng [[spam]]
|-valign=top
!style=background:lightgreen|[[:Category:New|New]]
|<!--en-->newly-released visible [[wiki]] with no or little content
|<!--tl-->kakalabas lamang na nakikitang [[wiki]] na wala o kakaunti pa lang ang nilalaman
|-valign=top
!style=background:lightgreen|[[:Category:In preparation|In<br>preparation]]
|<!--en-->[[wiki]] is not ready yet, but would be soon
|<!--tl-->hindi pa handa ang [[wiki]], pero paparating na
|-valign=top
!style=background:orange|[[:Category:Needs love|Needs<br>Love]]
|<!--en-->functional but empty, or over-run by [[spam]]
|<!--tl-->gumagana pero walang laman, o punong-puno ng [[spam]]
|-valign=top
!style=background:orange|[[:Category:Dormant|Dormant]]
|<!--en-->functional with content, but with no activity for more than 1 year
|<!--tl-->gumagana na may nilalaman, pero walang aktibidad ng mas marami sa 1 taon
|-valign=top
!Inactive
|<!--en-->''depreciated category
|<!--tl-->''deprekadong kategorya
|-valign=top
!style=background:orange|[[:Category:Spammed|Spammed]]
|<!--en-->seriously over-run by [[spam]], needs ''lots'' of attention to get it back to a [[wiki]] with a meaningful purpose
|<!--tl-->napupuno ng [[spam]], nangangailangan ng ''maraming'' atensyon upang ibalik ito sa isang [[wiki]] na may makabuluhang layunin
|-valign=top
!style=background:pink|[[:Category:Goal reached|Goal<br>Reached]]
|<!--en-->archive: there is content, but no activity because the [[wiki]] mission is done
|<!--tl-->arkibo: may nilalaman, pero walang aktibidad kasi tapos na ang misyon ng [[wiki]]
|-valign=top
!style=background:pink|[[:Category:Goal abandoned|Goal<br>Abandoned]]
|<!--en-->archive: there is content, but no activity because the [[wiki]] mission has been abandoned
|<!--tl-->arkibo: may nilalaman, pero walang aktibidad dahil abandonado na ang misyon ng [[wiki]]
|-valign=top
!style=background:red|[[:Category:Private|Private]]
|<!--en-->[[wiki]] requires [[username]] and password to view; typically invitation only
|<!--tl-->nangangailangan ang [[wiki]] ng [[username|username]] at hudyat upang tignan; imbitasyon lang sa heneral
|-valign=top
!style=background:red|[[:Category:Cannot connect|Cannot<br>connect]]
|<!--en-->established [[wiki]] not available (for some days)
|<!--tl-->itinatag na [[wiki]] na hindi magagamit (para lang sa ilang araw)
|-valign=top; style=background-color:#ccc
!style=background:darkgray|[[:Category:Dead|Dead]]
|<!--en-->former [[wiki]] that is gone for good (404 error, domain unreachable, replaced by advertising)
|<!--tl-->dating [[wiki]] na wala na para sa maganda (404 eror, hindi maabot na domain, napalitan ng pag-aadvertise)
|-valign=top; style=background-color:#ccc
!style=background:yellow|[[:Category:Archived|Archived]]
|<!--en-->[[wiki]] confirmed [[:Category:Dead|dead]] that has its former URLs captured at [[Archive.org]] or [[archive.is]]
|<!--tl-->[[wiki|wiking]] nakumpirma ng [[:Category:Dead|patay na]] na nakuha ang dati nitong mga URL sa [[Archive.org]] o [[archive.is]]
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!style=background:#aacccc|[[:Category:Wiki|wiki]] [[:Category:Wiki status|status]]<br>name
!style=background:#aacccc|description<br>([[:Category:Wiki English|en]])
!style=background:#aacccc|deskripsyon<br>([[:Category:Wiki Tagalog|tl]])
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You're welcome! <nowiki>:)</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/180.191.130.102|180.191.130.102]] 02:51, 23 May 2015 (PDT)