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This '''WikiIndex community talk''' page is a space to ask a question when the question is not directed towards a [[:Category:Wiki | This '''WikiIndex community talk''' page is a space to ask a question when the question is not directed towards a [[:Category:Wiki people|individual person]] but towards the whole group; or if you don't know who to ask here at {{tag|WikiIndex}}. A similar page with similar purposes is '''[[WikiIndex talk:Community portal]]'''. | ||
You may wish to type your question in the search box to see if there has been a question like yours before, or consult the [[WikiIndex:Frequently asked questions|WikiIndex FAQ]] – ''before'' you post a question here. | You may wish to type your question in the search box to see if there has been a question like yours before, or consult the [[WikiIndex:Frequently asked questions|WikiIndex FAQ]] – ''before'' you post a question here. | ||
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==Renaming categories== | ==Renaming categories== | ||
How do you [[rename]] a [[Special:Categories|category]]? I don't mean cutting and pasting text to a new page. You should be able to move the page and its [[edit history]] to a new location. I can't do it even if I copy the old page title to the move page URL. Can any admin do it? | How do you [[Template:Rename|rename]] a [[Special:Categories|category]]? I don't mean cutting and pasting text to a new page. You should be able to [[move]] the page and its [[edit history]] to a new location. I can't do it even if I copy the old page title to the move page URL. Can any admin do it? | ||
I prepared to move Category:OddMuse to [[:Category:Oddmuse]], since it is Oddmuse accroding to its [http://www.Oddmuse.org official website]. I opened all the articles with the OddMuse [[category]] in new tabs, edited them, and then noticed that I can't move the category. Ouch. [[Special:Contributions/Tristram Shandy|Tristram Shandy]] 18:10, 7 Mar 2006 (EST) | I prepared to move Category:OddMuse to [[:Category:Oddmuse]], since it is Oddmuse accroding to its [http://www.Oddmuse.org official website]. I opened all the articles with the OddMuse [[category]] in new tabs, edited them, and then noticed that I can't move the category. Ouch. [[Special:Contributions/Tristram Shandy|Tristram Shandy]] 18:10, 7 Mar 2006 (EST) | ||
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[[:Category:Browse]] is nicely becoming smaller. One outstanding issue is that we need a new [[Special:Categories|category]] for articles related to the whole wiki community that aren't meta to {{tag|WikiIndex}}, but sort of meta to all of wikilandia. [[Books]], [[Opt out]], [[WikiIndex:Weblogs|Weblogs]], [[What is a Wiki]] etc. Any suggestions? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 18:52, 15 Mar 2006 (EST) | [[:Category:Browse]] is nicely becoming smaller. One outstanding issue is that we need a new [[Special:Categories|category]] for articles related to the whole wiki community that aren't meta to {{tag|WikiIndex}}, but sort of meta to all of wikilandia. [[Books]], [[Opt out]], [[WikiIndex:Weblogs|Weblogs]], [[What is a Wiki]] etc. Any suggestions? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 18:52, 15 Mar 2006 (EST) | ||
==[[:Category:Wiki | ==[[:Category:Wiki language]]?== | ||
Should there be a distinction between [[wiki]]s that are bilingual (e.g. [[WikiIndex]]-English & French), multilingual (e.g. [[Wikimedia Commons]]-multiple languages used within the same wiki), and multiple languages (e.g. most [[:Category:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia Foundation]] projects, such as the [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]], that have versions in different languages [as sub-domains in the case of Wikimedia projects])? [[User:BlankVerse]] | <small>[[User talk:BlankVerse|talk]]</small> 00:44, 27 Mar 2006 (EST) | Should there be a distinction between [[wiki]]s that are bilingual (e.g. [[WikiIndex]]-English & French), multilingual (e.g. [[Wikimedia Commons]]-multiple languages used within the same wiki), and multiple languages (e.g. most [[:Category:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia Foundation]] projects, such as the [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]], that have versions in different languages [as sub-domains in the case of Wikimedia projects])? [[User:BlankVerse]] | <small>[[User talk:BlankVerse|talk]]</small> 00:44, 27 Mar 2006 (EST) | ||
:I just created Category:Deutsch as a redirect to [[:Category:German]]. This works in the sense that if you click on the Deutsch link under the categories at the bottom of the page you will go to Category:German. The problem is that any articles tagged with only Category:Deutsch do not show up under Category:German. After thinking about it, I am now changing Category:Deutsch to be a sub-category under [[:Category:German]]. I think that is the better to do things. I'll also do the same thing with Category:Español. [[User:BlankVerse]] | <small>[[User talk:BlankVerse|talk]]</small> 20:47, 29 Mar 2006 (EST) | :I just created Category:Deutsch as a redirect to [[:Category:German]]. This works in the sense that if you click on the Deutsch link under the categories at the bottom of the page you will go to Category:German. The problem is that any articles tagged with only Category:Deutsch do not show up under Category:German. After thinking about it, I am now changing Category:Deutsch to be a sub-category under [[:Category:German]]. I think that is the better to do things. I'll also do the same thing with Category:Español. [[User:BlankVerse]] | <small>[[User talk:BlankVerse|talk]]</small> 20:47, 29 Mar 2006 (EST) | ||
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In order of who I have known longer: | In order of who I have known longer: | ||
*[[:Category:Socialtext|Socialtext]] - talk to [[Sunir Shah]] | *[[:Category:Socialtext|Socialtext]] - talk to [[Sunir Shah]] | ||
*[[:Category:Confluence|Confluence]] | *[[:Category:Confluence|Confluence]] Atlassian - https://www.Atlassian.com/software/confluence - Mike fron [[RecentChangesCamp]] | ||
*[[:Category:Wetpaint|Wetpaint]] - Ray has met these folks. | *[[:Category:Wetpaint|Wetpaint]] - Ray has met these folks. | ||
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==technical glitch== | ==technical glitch== | ||
Hello folks, I don't use watched pages very much. But I do on my [[user talk]] page, or did, way back when and I try to unwatch it. that doesn't work, every time I unwatch it, the next login, it is being watched again, any ideas? [[MarkDilley]] | Hello folks, I don't use watched pages very much. But I do on my [[WikiIndex:Talk pages for wiki people|user talk]] page, or did, way back when and I try to unwatch it. that doesn't work, every time I unwatch it, the next login, it is being watched again, any ideas? [[MarkDilley]] | ||
:I can only guess that that's a MediaWiki feature. If you don't use the [[Special:Watchlist|watchlist]], does having something on there impact you somewhere else? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:04, 6 June 2006 (EDT) | :I can only guess that that's a MediaWiki feature. If you don't use the [[Special:Watchlist|watchlist]], does having something on there impact you somewhere else? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:04, 6 June 2006 (EDT) | ||
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:I'm sorry to hear you're annoyed, my friend. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 17:11, 6 June 2006 (EDT) | :I'm sorry to hear you're annoyed, my friend. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 17:11, 6 June 2006 (EDT) | ||
::In [[Special:Preferences]] there is an option to add every page you edit to your watchlist. You may want to turn that off if it's not already off. --[[User:Carlb|Carlb]] 22:59, 10 June 2006 (EDT) | ::In [[Special:Preferences]] there is an option to add every page you edit to your watchlist. You may want to turn that off if it's not already off. --[[User:Carlb|Carlb]] 22:59, 10 June 2006 (EDT) | ||
:::It seems that our '''[[user talk]]''' pages are always in bold, is that true? [[MarkDilley]] | :::It seems that our '''[[WikiIndex:Talk pages for wiki people|user talk]]''' pages are always in bold, is that true? [[MarkDilley]] | ||
::::Your own user page can't be un-watched. I think it's somehow connected to talk page notification. —[[Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">User:Sean Fennel</span>]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">@</span>]] 00:56, 3 July 2006 (EDT) | ::::Your own user page can't be un-watched. I think it's somehow connected to talk page notification. —[[Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">User:Sean Fennel</span>]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">@</span>]] 00:56, 3 July 2006 (EDT) | ||
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==Feedback== | ==Feedback== | ||
Feedback – there, you have my idea. What do you think about it? Want to add your wiki? --[[User:Let's|Let's]] 12:02, 10 November 2006 (EST) | |||
== | ==BuildingControlsWiki== | ||
On page https://wiki.Ubuntu.com/InterWiki. I see a link to a | On page https://wiki.Ubuntu.com/InterWiki. I see a link to a [[BuildingControlsWiki]]. Apparently, that page (including that link) was copied from http://moinmaster.WikiWikiWeb.de/InterWikiMap. Alas, it appears that wiki has gone offline. Or perhaps it moved? does anyone know where? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 01:12, 22 November 2006 (EST) | ||
==Category images== | ==Category images== | ||
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==RecentChanges.info== | ==RecentChanges.info== | ||
What happened to the [[RecentChanges.info]] blog (http://RecentChanges.info)? I followed the instructions on [[:Category:Draft weblog article|draft weblog article]] to add my wiki posting to [[Template: | What happened to the [[RecentChanges.info]] blog (http://RecentChanges.info)? I followed the instructions on [[:Category:Draft weblog article|draft weblog article]] to add my wiki posting to [[Template:Wiki spotlight]], but RecentChanges.info seems to have had no update since August 21, 2006! --[[Special:Contributions/84.155.249.44|84.155.249.44]] 10:19, 13 January 2007 (PST) | ||
==WikiIndex.org== | ==WikiIndex.org== | ||
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:I believe that everything is on-topic somewhere [http://www.communitywiki.org/en/OnAndOffTopic]. | :I believe that everything is on-topic somewhere [http://www.communitywiki.org/en/OnAndOffTopic]. | ||
:I would love for Mr. Obama to create a page at WikiIndex about himself, a page that would show the world that he is, in fact, one of the [[:Category:Wiki | :I would love for Mr. Obama to create a page at WikiIndex about himself, a page that would show the world that he is, in fact, one of the [[:Category:Wiki people]] | ||
:However, the WikiIndex is intended to be a index of wiki. | :However, the WikiIndex is intended to be a index of wiki. | ||
:Since Mr. Obama is not, himself, a wiki, nor (yet) one of the [[:Category:Wiki | :Since Mr. Obama is not, himself, a wiki, nor (yet) one of the [[:Category:Wiki people]], I don't think it is really appropriate for either of us to create an article about Mr. Obama here at WikiIndex. | ||
:Until then, I think the best place at WikiIndex to put your list of links to wiki that have articles about Mr. Obama is in a "related wiki" section of the [[Obamapedia]] article at WikiIndex. | :Until then, I think the best place at WikiIndex to put your list of links to wiki that have articles about Mr. Obama is in a "related wiki" section of the [[Obamapedia]] article at WikiIndex. | ||
:--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 16:49, 31 December 2008 (EST) | :--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 16:49, 31 December 2008 (EST) | ||
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==SizeBot?== | ==SizeBot?== | ||
I've seen a number of other [[wiki]]s that have bots that go around and do minor cleanup jobs. Would it possible to create a [[:Category:User | I've seen a number of other [[wiki]]s that have bots that go around and do minor cleanup jobs. Would it possible to create a [[:Category:User bot|bot]] that goes around and checks any pages that contain [[Template:Size]]? This [[:Category:Templates|template]] contains the size of the wiki, but also has a link where the new size can be read. A bot should (hopefully) be able to follow the link, look at the current size of the wiki and then update the number of pages back on [[:Category:All|WikiIndex]]. | ||
Template:Size also features the [[wikiFactor]], and I wonder if the same bot could also check this information. (Having said that, I know nothing about bot programming and it might be easier to have a second bot to do that.) A bot that searches for wikis that do not currently have a wikiFactor (and then searches the wiki stats to see if it can be added) could also be useful. I know that all wikis work slightly differently, but wiki farms (like [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]]) generally have the same setup on every wiki, so it might be easier to create a User:WikiaWikiFactorBot than a multi-wiki User:wikiFactorBot. But I would think that any automation of moving stats would help keep WikiIndex as up to date as possible. | Template:Size also features the [[wikiFactor]], and I wonder if the same bot could also check this information. (Having said that, I know nothing about bot programming and it might be easier to have a second bot to do that.) A bot that searches for wikis that do not currently have a wikiFactor (and then searches the wiki stats to see if it can be added) could also be useful. I know that all wikis work slightly differently, but wiki farms (like [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]]) generally have the same setup on every wiki, so it might be easier to create a User:WikiaWikiFactorBot than a multi-wiki User:wikiFactorBot. But I would think that any automation of moving stats would help keep WikiIndex as up to date as possible. | ||
If a number of [[:Category:User | If a number of [[:Category:User bot|bots]] could be created to do these minor update tasks, the pages the bots can not cope with could be added to some sort of 'Wikis that need manual patrol' category, and people could use that category to help find the pages that don't look after themselves. [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 09:05, 9 May 2009 (EDT) | ||
:I think that's a great idea. This seems like it would easy to do, but like you, I haven't used bots, so I'm only assuming. Anyone have any bot-creation experience? --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 19:45, 9 May 2009 (EDT) | :I think that's a great idea. This seems like it would easy to do, but like you, I haven't used bots, so I'm only assuming. Anyone have any bot-creation experience? --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 19:45, 9 May 2009 (EDT) | ||
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:See: [[WikiIndex:Naming conventions]]. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 18:26, 6 October 2018 (UTC) | :See: [[WikiIndex:Naming conventions]]. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 18:26, 6 October 2018 (UTC) | ||
==Template:New | ==Template:New person== | ||
What is the purpose of [[Template:New | What is the purpose of [[Template:New person]]? I also looked at the discussion page of that template, which left me even more confused. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 10:10, 22 October 2009 (EDT) | ||
==visual wiki== | ==visual wiki== | ||
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:A site that discusses wiki, even if it is not a wiki itself, is on-topic for us to talk about it here at the [[WikiIndex]]. I think the simplest approach is to promote it the same as we promote a new wiki -- create a page for it, add it to the top of the list of new wiki on the home page, etc. Even though, at the moment, WikiSpeedia is merely one page proposing a site, and so technically not yet a wiki. | :A site that discusses wiki, even if it is not a wiki itself, is on-topic for us to talk about it here at the [[WikiIndex]]. I think the simplest approach is to promote it the same as we promote a new wiki -- create a page for it, add it to the top of the list of new wiki on the home page, etc. Even though, at the moment, WikiSpeedia is merely one page proposing a site, and so technically not yet a wiki. | ||
:p.s.: Is there a category that means "wiki-on-wiki conversation is on-topic", so I can tag WikiSpeedia and [[MeatballWiki]] and [[CommunityWiki.org]] and [[MediaWiki.org]] and other appropriate pages here with that category? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 09:30, 1 February 2011 (PST) | :p.s.: Is there a category that means "wiki-on-wiki conversation is on-topic", so I can tag WikiSpeedia and [[MeatballWiki]] and [[CommunityWiki|CommunityWiki.org]] and [[MediaWiki.org]] and other appropriate pages here with that category? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 09:30, 1 February 2011 (PST) | ||
::A central web site for everything related to Wikis is extremely necessary. I just found WikiIndex today and it looks like the best place for that. Too bad that it took me more than 1 year to find it... One weakness at Wikipedia is that it doesn't have a web forum. The {{Wp|Wikipedia:Village pump|Village Pump}} is good, but far from good enough. It's practically impossible to follow an idea posted weeks ago (there are archives for each day - for example {{Wp|Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 November 24|2007 November 24}}). That's why a forum is required. A forum for everything related to Wiki. On a forum it is possible to write on the same thread even after weeks, months and years from the last post, coming with a creative and valuable answer or idea. The forum should have sub-forums for ''mediawiki and for other wiki engines'', another one for ''wiki farms'', another one for ''wikis by category'', another one for ''ideas for new wikis'' where people can search for partners to start new wikis with, another one for ''technical hep'', and so on. For example, I need to translate a template like this: {{Wp|Template:Columns-list}} to my own wiki and I don't know how to do it. Many other mediawiki users need some basic templates for their wikis and they don't know how to get them. That's why WikiSpeedia can be so helpful. It's extremely important to have a central hub for all wiki users and experts. [[Special:Contributions/WikiFan|WikiFan]] 20:34, 1 November 2011 (PDT) | ::A central web site for everything related to Wikis is extremely necessary. I just found WikiIndex today and it looks like the best place for that. Too bad that it took me more than 1 year to find it... One weakness at Wikipedia is that it doesn't have a web forum. The {{Wp|Wikipedia:Village pump|Village Pump}} is good, but far from good enough. It's practically impossible to follow an idea posted weeks ago (there are archives for each day - for example {{Wp|Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 November 24|2007 November 24}}). That's why a forum is required. A forum for everything related to Wiki. On a forum it is possible to write on the same thread even after weeks, months and years from the last post, coming with a creative and valuable answer or idea. The forum should have sub-forums for ''mediawiki and for other wiki engines'', another one for ''wiki farms'', another one for ''wikis by category'', another one for ''ideas for new wikis'' where people can search for partners to start new wikis with, another one for ''technical hep'', and so on. For example, I need to translate a template like this: {{Wp|Template:Columns-list}} to my own wiki and I don't know how to do it. Many other mediawiki users need some basic templates for their wikis and they don't know how to get them. That's why WikiSpeedia can be so helpful. It's extremely important to have a central hub for all wiki users and experts. [[Special:Contributions/WikiFan|WikiFan]] 20:34, 1 November 2011 (PDT) | ||
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==To what extent is WikiIndex intended to serve as a 'meatball wiki'== | ==To what extent is WikiIndex intended to serve as a 'meatball wiki'== | ||
[[WikiIndex:Creating New Articles]] says, "Most of the articles created in this [[WikiIndex]] wiki will be about other individual [[wiki]]s. Please refer to [[WikiIndex:Add a Wiki]] for further information. Other very limited topics are also appropriate, about [[:Category:Wiki | [[WikiIndex:Creating New Articles]] says, "Most of the articles created in this [[WikiIndex]] wiki will be about other individual [[wiki]]s. Please refer to [[WikiIndex:Add a Wiki]] for further information. Other very limited topics are also appropriate, about [[:Category:Wiki people|wiki people]], wiki terms, [[:Category:Wiki idea|wiki ideas]], and how to use this wiki. Please be restrained in adding such peripheral material." | ||
I notice that we don't actually have a lot of pages in [[:Category:Wiki concept]] and [[:Category:Wiki idea]]. To what extent is it actually encouraged to add these kinds of pages? There's a lot that one could write about wiki-philosophy, wiki norms, etc. However, I don't want to do it if it'll be frowned upon. A 'meatball wiki' is basically one that "describes the general tendencies observed on wikis and other on-line communities; for example the life cycles of wikis, and people's behavior on them." To what extent are you cool with hosting that kind of content? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 07:31, 8 March 2014 (UTC) | I notice that we don't actually have a lot of pages in [[:Category:Wiki concept]] and [[:Category:Wiki idea]]. To what extent is it actually encouraged to add these kinds of pages? There's a lot that one could write about wiki-philosophy, wiki norms, etc. However, I don't want to do it if it'll be frowned upon. A 'meatball wiki' is basically one that "describes the general tendencies observed on wikis and other on-line communities; for example the life cycles of wikis, and people's behavior on them." To what extent are you cool with hosting that kind of content? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 07:31, 8 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
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: I have no idea, the request account was an anti-spam measure. ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | : I have no idea, the request account was an anti-spam measure. ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | ||
==Wikis that are "paid-to-edit"== | |||
Hello. Should there be a category for wikis where people get paid to edit? Yes, I said paid to edit, not [[:Category:Pay to edit|pay to edit]]. What kind of category would this category be? It just doesn't seem like an edit mode, but maybe it is. However, also keep in mind that there have been very few wikis that do this; the online encyclopedia Wixpert (which became a dead wiki before anyone could list it on WikiIndex) had a place in user preferences to put a Google AdSense code, and (at least at one time) [[EditThis.info]] had a place in control panel (wiki admin controls) to put a Google AdSense code. But that was just getting paid fractions of a cent per visit because of ads; then there were some [[:Category:ByInvitation|ByInvitation]] websites where you have to show the admins a resume and samples of your writing before you can have an account, and those sites actually had you do contract work, complete with making an invoice at the end; a freelance writing gig that just happens to use MediaWiki markup on an invite-only wiki. Or maybe there's only one wiki like that; [[New World Encyclopedia]] is definitely this. But how many wikis have actually paid their writers, whether it's contract work or just ad revenue sharing? And what should the "paid to edit" category be? An edit mode, a tag of some kind, or are there just not enough wikis? I mean, if people click that paid to edit category and they just see New World Encyclopedia, maybe it's not a category worth having. But I'm also aware of the ones that use ad revenue sharing, but I'm not sure how many exist anymore. [[User:Star651|Star651]] ([[User talk:Star651|talk]]) 20:34, 8 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
[[Category:WikiIndex|Community talk]] | [[Category:WikiIndex|Community talk]] | ||
[[Category:Orphaned talk page]] | [[Category:Orphaned talk page]] | ||