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==Welcome==
Christophe!  Nice to see you here. :-)
Christophe!  Nice to see you here. :-)


Also, very nice to have our first '''multilingual''' wiki person! Best,  [[User:MarkDilley|MarkDilley]]
Also, very nice to have our first '''multilingual''' wiki person! Best,  [[User:MarkDilley|MarkDilley]]
 
:Hi Mark and thanks. This WikiIndex is a very good initiative. I'll try to make my best to bring french wiki-people -- Christophe
Hi Mark and thanks. This WikiIndex is a very good initiative. I'll try to make my best to bring french wiki-people -- Christophe
 


Yea!! :-) [[User:MarkDilley|MarkDilley]]
Yea!! :-) [[User:MarkDilley|MarkDilley]]


== Caricature ==
==[[:Category:Caricature|Caricature]]==
 
[[File:Portraitxtof2.jpg|right]]
Christophe, we're doing caricatures for wiki people we know and would be very happy to do one for you if you wish.  Just upload or send me a pic and I'll have it done --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 03:09, 4 Feb 2006 (EST)
Christophe, we're doing [[:Category:Caricature|caricatures]] for [[:Category:Wiki people|wiki people]] we know and would be very happy to do one for you if you wish.  Just upload or send me a pic and I'll have it done --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 03:09, 4 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
:Neat idea. I don't really feel at ease in publishing photos in wikis. Could you do something with that? Have a nice week-end - [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|xtof]]
 
Neat idea. I don't really feel at ease in publishing photos in wikis.Could you do something with that ? [[Image:Portraitxtof2.jpg|40px]] Have a nice week-end - xtof
 
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== Projet ==
 
Ouvrir une Category:FrenchTranslation
* [[Ajouter un Wiki]]
 
== Help - en Francais ==
 
Awesome that you've added French help, THANKS! --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 18:51, 9 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
Is it ok raymond to create a category:aide ? Thanks to let me know. - <small>[[User:ChristopheDucamp|xtof]] 19:37, 9 Feb 2006 (EST)</small>
 
Sure, I think that means help in French, right? --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 21:04, 9 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
== Hot! ==
 
Love the front page of yours! see my thoughts from earlier at [[:Category:Spanish]] - would that help organize language based content?  Best, [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>
 
 
Hi Mark. Trying to follow on [[:Category:French]]. Think it could be complex to multiply the categories language. How about using redirection ? I mean but still not sure for our future french and other languages subcommunity...
* create [[:Category:Français]]
* redirect [[:Category:Français]] to [[:Category:French]]


We could also invite people to tag articles with some tags I just found on [[YelloWikis]] :
==Projet==
* [[:category:العربية]]
Ouvrir une [[:Category: FrenchTranslation]]
* [[:category:Česká]] 
*[[WikiIndex:Ajouter un Wiki]]
* [[:category:Dansk]]
* [[:category:Deutsch]]
* [[:category:Español]]
* [[:category:Français]]
* [[:category:Italiano]]
* [[:category:Magyar]]
* [[:category:Nederlands]]
* [[:category:日本語]]
* [[:category:Polski]]
* [[:category:Português]]
* [[:category:Româna]]
* [[:category:Русский]]
* [[:category:Suomi]]
* [[:category:Svenska]]
* [[:category:ไทย]]
* [[:category:Українська]]
* [[:category:中文]]
* [[:category:繁體中文]]  


To be completed. But for the moment, I see two main problems :
==Help - en Francais==
* the ability for peopale to type some characters
Awesome that you've added [[Help:Aide:Contenus|French help]], THANKS! --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 18:51, 9 Feb 2006 (EST)
* the ability to understand all these languages
:Is it ok raymond to create a [[:category: Aide]]? Thanks to let me know. - [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|xtof]] 19:37, 9 Feb 2006 (EST)
::Sure, I think that means help in French, right? --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 21:04, 9 Feb 2006 (EST)


Should we build a table in order to ease redirections via a simple copy/paste extracted from a page like [[LanguageTagTable]] or something like that ?  
==Hot!==
Really need your guidelines ;) -- [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 05:24, 14 Feb 2006 (EST)
Love the [[Bienvenue|front page of yours]]! see my thoughts from earlier at [[:Category:Spanish]] - would that help organize language based content? Best, [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>


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Hi Mark. Trying to follow on [[:Category: French]]. Think it could be complex to multiply the [[:Category:Language|categories language]]. How about using [[redirect]]ion?  I mean but still not sure for our future french and other languages sub-community...
Like some of your ideas above, but I was thinking sorta reverse:
*create <tt><nowiki>[[:Category: Français]]</nowiki></tt>
* redirect [[:Category:French]] to [[:Category:Français]]
*redirect <tt><nowiki>[[:Category: Français]]</nowiki></tt> to [[:Category: French]]


But I am not sure about the language stuff!  It can get overwhelming real quick! :-[[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>
We could also invite people to tag articles with some tags I just found on [[Yellowikis]]:
<div style=column-width:16em>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: العربية]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Česká]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Dansk]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Deutsch]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Español]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Français]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Italiano]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Magyar]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Nederlands]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: 日本語]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Polski]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Português]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Româna]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Русский]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Suomi]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Svenska]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: ไทย]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Українська]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: 中文]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: 繁體中文]]</nowiki></tt></div>
To be completed. But for the moment, I see two main problems:
*the ability for people to type some characters
*the ability to understand all these languages
Should we build a table in order to ease redirections via a simple copy/paste extracted from a page like LanguageTagTable or something like that? Really need your guidelines ;) -- [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 05:24, 14 Feb 2006 (EST)


:Like some of your ideas above, but I was thinking sorta reverse:
:*redirect [[:Category:French]] to <tt><nowiki>[[:Category:Français]]</nowiki></tt>


Mark, I just tried the redirection mentioned... But reverted it because I felt completely lost ! Agree with you on the fact it could get ''overwhelming'' ... Still confused about the language base content. Not sure it's a simple way :-) [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 12:16, 14 Feb 2006 (EST)
:But I am not sure about the language stuff! It can get overwhelming real quick! :-) [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>


== Inactive ==
::Mark, I just tried the redirection mentioned... But reverted it because I felt completely lost ! Agree with you on the fact it could get ''overwhelming'' ... Still confused about the language base content. Not sure it's a simple way :-) [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 12:16, 14 Feb 2006 (EST)


I see you picked right up on that!  you might use the template:inactive, i think it's a bit easier?
==Inactive==
I see you picked right up on that!  you might use the [[template:inactive]], i think it's a bit easier?


Yes, for the future of defunct, it could be easier ? Just made first tests ! it works. Defunct is a huge category to move ;) -- xtof
Yes, for the future of defunct, it could be easier ? Just made first tests ! it works. Defunct is a huge category to move ;) -- [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|xtof]]


yes, there are something like 200 inactives and 100 defuncts, but many overlap, so maybe only 250 in total :-)
yes, there are something like 200 inactives and 100 defuncts, but many overlap, so maybe only 250 in total :-)


ok. let's go ! I will begin by the end Z,Y,X, etc.. and one day we could meet :-) - x.
ok. let's go ! I will begin by the end Z,Y,X, etc.. and one day we could meet :-) - [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|xtof]].


great idea :-)
great idea :-)
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The reason I'm using the template this way is because we will later have the option to change the template to make a global change.  Or do you have a reason that I'm not aware of? --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 23:07, 15 Feb 2006 (EST)
The reason I'm using the template this way is because we will later have the option to change the template to make a global change.  Or do you have a reason that I'm not aware of? --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 23:07, 15 Feb 2006 (EST)


:Hi raymon. no reason at all to use the old template. I did not invent the previous one (this wiki-syntax if still too much complicated imho...). Just tested the new inactive template on [[ZaurusWiki]] to achieve Z inactive letter. Nice. Will follow-up soon to review Y,X,W and so on. Thanks for your new suggestion. Seems much more simple to use. I have to work now :-( [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 05:50, 16 Feb 2006 (EST)


Hi raymon. no reason at all to use the old template. I did not invent the previous one (this wiki-syntax if still too much complicated imho...). Just tested the new inactive template on [[ZaurusWiki]] to achieve Z inactive letter. Nice. Will follow-up soon to review Y,X,W and so on. Thanks for your new suggestion. Seems much more simple to use. I have to work now :-( [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 05:50, 16 Feb 2006 (EST)
::Super, thanks :-) --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 13:34, 16 Feb 2006 (EST)


Super, thanks :-) --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 13:34, 16 Feb 2006 (EST)
:::I realize where the confusion was and I've tried to be more specific in defining "template" separately from "boilerplate text" so we don't get confused again.  My apologies --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 03:52, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)


I realize where the confusion was and I've tried to be more specific in defining "template" separately from "boilerplate text" so we don't get confused again. My apologies --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 03:52, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)
::::Thanks. Just discovering through an update of [[WikiIndex:Portail communauté|portail communauté]] the difference between "template" and "boilerplate". Still not found the right words in french... For the moment, I've translated template with "gabarit". Should we suggest french people to use [[template:Wiki boilerplate]]. For me ([[Template:Wiki|New Template]]) is still confusing... on [[WikiIndex:Community portal|Community Portal]]. Hé Raymond, may be you could sleep sometime ;) [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 04:06, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)


Salut vielle branche, dis-donc tu te bouges!-) [[User:OlivierAuber|OlivierAuber]] 08:32, 25 Feb 2006 (EST)


Thanks. Just discovering through an update of [[Portail Communauté]] the difference between "template" and "boilerplate". Still not found the right words in french... For the moment, I've translated template with "gabarit". Should we suggest french people to use [[Template:Wiki_Boilerplate]]. For me ([[Template:Wiki |New Template]]) is still confusing... on [[Community Portal]]. Hé Raymond, may be you could sleep sometime ;) [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 04:06, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)
:J'aimerais réattaquer le projet [[WikiNode]]s pour la [[:Category:FêteInternet]] -- [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 09:06, 25 Feb 2006 (EST)


Salut vielle branche, dis-donc tu te bouges!-)[[User:OlivierAuber|OlivierAuber]] 08:32, 25 Feb 2006 (EST)
==definition of inactive==
I noticed you asked about a [[:Category:Spammed|spam-filled]] wiki and changing to inactive.  I think the idea is that [[:Category:Needs love|Needs love]] covers spam-filled as long as the engine itself still works.  Inactive is only if the site isn't there anymore, or isn't a wiki anymore. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:18, 25 Feb 2006 (EST)
:Thanks Ted - [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 18:45, 25 Feb 2006 (EST)


==move function==
Do you know about it?  Near the top to the right of the "[[edit]]" button is "[[move]]".  You can use that to [[rename]] pages and preserve their [[edit history]]. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 16:43, 9 May 2006 (EDT)


J'aimerais réattaquer le projet [[WikiNodes]] pour la [[FêteInternet]] -- [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 09:06, 25 Feb 2006 (EST)
:Merci Ted. Great for any future translation/structure migration : [[:Category:FrenchTranslation]] and pages contained in [[:Category:Aide]] should move with prefixing WikiIndex:... ? A lot of work this week. Should come back here probably next week to help on translation/synchronization [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 05:21, 10 May 2006 (EDT)


== definition of inactive ==
::Yes, those categories look good.  I'm still not clear myself on naming scheme for meta pagesDo you have opinions on this?  The WikiIndex namespace seems to make sense, though there's also a Help namespace.  I'm not sure how to know which pages go in which namespace. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:14, 10 May 2006 (EDT)
I noticed you asked about a spam-filled wiki and changing to inactive.  I think the idea is that NeedsLove covers spam-filled as long as the engine itself still worksInactive is only if the site isn't there anymore, or isn't a wiki anymore. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:18, 25 Feb 2006 (EST)


Thanks Ted - [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 18:45, 25 Feb 2006 (EST)
I think we can use whatever namespace we want (within a limit of 150) - so whatever it is, we can hardwire it into this MediaWiki. [[MarkDilley]]