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::Or do you feel that due to your possibly superior knowledge of computers (or the number or dedication of your allies), that this enables you more control of this wiki, than the administration? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 05:04, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | ::Or do you feel that due to your possibly superior knowledge of computers (or the number or dedication of your allies), that this enables you more control of this wiki, than the administration? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 05:04, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
:::No, it's just an observation based on Proxima's behaviour. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 06:19, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | :::No, it's just an observation based on Proxima's behaviour. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 06:19, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
::::Must you gentlemen be so abrasive? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:59, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
==Hacking skills== | ==Hacking skills== | ||
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:I don't know of a way to crash RationalWiki. All our custom extensions use the database functions provided by mediawiki (unlike whosonline, which accesses the database directly), and those are safeguarded against stuff like this. Of course there can be unknown vulnerabilities in either our custom code or mediawiki. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 06:18, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | :I don't know of a way to crash RationalWiki. All our custom extensions use the database functions provided by mediawiki (unlike whosonline, which accesses the database directly), and those are safeguarded against stuff like this. Of course there can be unknown vulnerabilities in either our custom code or mediawiki. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 06:18, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
::Uuuh.... thanks. Let me see if I have an interpreter. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:35, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | ::Uuuh.... thanks. Let me see if I have an interpreter. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:35, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
:::WP has an article on this sort of attack at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL_injection]. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 08:33, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
== | ==Active bureaucrats == | ||
You said you emailed | You said you emailed Mr. Ernst, is he still around? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 05:18, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
:One of the admins I emailed replied, and said they were not active any more, and did not want to get involved. I think it was him. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 06:19, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | :One of the admins I emailed replied, and said they were not active any more, and did not want to get involved. I think it was him. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 06:19, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
::Oh yeah, you said you emailed Mr. Stanton, also. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 07:37, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
==Did you notice...== | ==Did you notice...== | ||
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::So? Why does it matter? Lumeniki is not your user page, it can be edited by anyone. Well, unless you become a power abusive sysop like Proxima. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 06:33, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | ::So? Why does it matter? Lumeniki is not your user page, it can be edited by anyone. Well, unless you become a power abusive sysop like Proxima. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 06:33, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
:::I'm not sure you and [[MarkDilley]] share the same conventions. You might notice [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines#Notes_to_editors_of_this_page|his edits on the policy page]]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:44, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | :::I'm not sure you and [[MarkDilley]] share the same conventions. You might notice [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines#Notes_to_editors_of_this_page|his edits on the policy page]]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:44, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
:::I thought that Phantom's user page contained nothing very valuable (but perhaps a rather lame inside joke) and so I redirected to | :::I thought that Phantom's user page contained nothing very valuable (but perhaps a rather lame inside joke) and so I redirected to [his talk page]. Is that so wrong? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:47, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
::::I don't know what Mark Dilley's opinion is, but at both RationalWiki and Wikipedia, editing other people's user pages without their permission is frowned upon. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 06:54, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
:::::Thanks for the source. Wikipedia is quite important isn't it... ;-) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 07:01, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
::::::You shouldn't edit other people's user pages for the same reason you shouldn't start rearranging someone's living room when they invite you in their house. It's not "Wikipedia does it this way, so we must do it the same way too", it's common courtesy. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 07:14, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
:::::::I gotcha. But we all buddies here you know. You guys know how to fix a little thing, if it's your living room or wiki or whatever. We may be able to write whatever policy we want. (I'm including you when I say "we".) Why not regard user pages just like the wiki articles? That they are to describe the person in the "perception of consensus"? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 07:24, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
::::::::(ec) If "we" are going to make policy (which I don't think we should - are "we" taking over this wiki now?), I would oppose such a move. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 07:38, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
:::::::::You are not for taking over this wiki? That's news to me. How would you oppose it? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 07:42, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
::::::::::How would I oppose it? Well, you said "we" includes me too. Therefore, I assumed I'd have a vote in what this new policy would be, and I would oppose turning user pages into community property. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 07:55, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
:::::::::::Should wiki articles be community property? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 07:58, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
::::::::::::Yes. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 08:08, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
:::::::::::::Is there any way to judge whether some smaller group is dominating the perception being presented in an article? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 08:17, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
::::::::Why do you oppose making policies? You obviously have certain standards you want others to respect. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 08:29, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
:::::::::I don't oppose making policies. I don't believe however that you are in charge here. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 08:31, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
::::::::::Of course I am not in charge. Who is? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 08:43, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
::::::::When I say "we" I'm including anyone who is reading this and wants to help establish mutually agreed standards, if possible. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 07:45, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
== Thanks == | |||
For saying [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3ALumenos&diff=70530&oldid=70529 this]. | |||
Do you use UESP? I'd always assumed I'd find cross-wiki coincidence at some point, but there doesn't seem to be much around. [[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] is the only name I recognise (UESP / aSK, here and others). [[User:Rpeh|rpeh]] 04:19, 6 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
:I do and I have an account there, but have never edited (I created it before you had the new user log, so it doesn't show up anywhere). I'm really impressed by the amount and quality of content there. Nice work. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 04:40, 6 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
:: Thank you again :) [[User:Rpeh|rpeh]] 04:48, 6 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
:::Note that he wouldn't have had the opportunity to say that if I hadn't been such a cyberstalker/troll whateva. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:36, 6 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
== RationalWiki moved to talk page. == | |||
I'm over on Dilley's page talking trash, cause that is what I think also, but I didn't really see that coming. I thought you were being fairly civil. I feel kinda bad even though I find the article/(talk page) more informative, myself. (Most people don't like "articles" that look like I would like.) It seemed like you were trying to make peace and you even added a criticism. And someone had the bright solution to add the service outage notice link on the top of the article, when I brought that out to talk. I don't know how the article should look. You put so much work into it, arguing with me. I just feel bad about this now. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:01, 6 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
And you gave "us" some good advice on updating that extension. Thanks for that. For what it is worth. :-( [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:56, 6 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
== You can trust Nx... == | |||
...he apologized and admitted to wandalizing. I would post a quote but he doesn't like that anymore. It was on his user page last I checked. I love everybody. Let's build a campfire. I'm probably going to bed now so don't expect no more "feedings" ya hobgoblin. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 07:28, 10 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
I want proper sources for the [[Lumeniki]] article. <del>You're user page is no longer a red link. Do you mind if I redirect [[Nx]] to there now? (Pssst, just think of how the cyborg stalkings will be thwarted.) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 12:09, 10 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
:Umm you sound like you might be done editing here so I will go ahead and do it. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:19, 10 September 2009 (EDT)</del> | |||
::Changed it to redirect here instead. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 20:31, 11 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
Nx, don't go! Don't leave me all alone with these lunatics! We could work it out, man. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:24, 10 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
''Then I got wikilawyered by a concern troll whose only joy in life seems to be arguing the exact opposite of everything I say.'' ~~ Nx | |||
: :-( I didn't understand why you and Huw wanted the other wikis deleted from the article and why someone removed the source from the quote. It looked suspicious. I'm sorry. I should have addressed your reasons first, but that became difficult especially when the article and the talk page, are the same page. But now I agree that your version is how those section should be, at the present time. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 20:31, 11 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
:You said the wikilawyering was changing the section title from "see also" to "similar wikis" or something? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 20:31, 11 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
:You know, I may not be a very good judge of when something is really upsetting or annoying you, or if we are just playing a game. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 20:31, 11 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
I miss Nx, but I feel his spirit lives on in the IP address. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 20:31, 11 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
== This place is insane. == | |||
Redirecting user: pages to the mainspace? [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 20:06, 10 September 2009 (EDT) | |||