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:::Jesus said, "judge not lest ye be judged", and "stop judging by mere appearances and make a right judgment". In other words, don't judge (if you are not good at it), if you are good at it, then judge properly instead of improperly. I think this represents the absolute Truthism, which we should all follow. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 01:57, 3 September 2009 (EDT) | :::Jesus said, "judge not lest ye be judged", and "stop judging by mere appearances and make a right judgment". In other words, don't judge (if you are not good at it), if you are good at it, then judge properly instead of improperly. I think this represents the absolute Truthism, which we should all follow. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 01:57, 3 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
::::Then the question becomes, "but WWJD at WikiIndex?" Definitely follow [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:VER Wikipedia's guideline on verifiability]. Why? Because someone's opinion of what the facts are, is debatable, but an actual fact, is less debatable. Therefore, you may exchange your actual facts for any unsubstantiated onions, in WikiIndex, and do not have to worry about it being contested. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 02:01, 3 September 2009 (EDT) | ::::Then the question becomes, "but WWJD at WikiIndex?" Definitely follow [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:VER Wikipedia's guideline on verifiability]. Why? Because someone's opinion of what the facts are, is debatable, but an actual fact, is less debatable. Therefore, you may exchange your actual facts for any unsubstantiated onions, in WikiIndex, and do not have to worry about it being contested. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 02:01, 3 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
:::::I don't know if I explained properly, what I mean by an "actual fact". I mean one that '''includes the source''' in keeping with [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:VER Wikipedia's guideline on verifiability]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 02:03, 3 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
* If you must delete and something you deleted reappears, do not delete it a second time. Use strikethrough and work it out with the other person, if needed using the discussion tab (every page has one) or the persons discussion tab (which everyone has) | * If you must delete and something you deleted reappears, do not delete it a second time. Use strikethrough and work it out with the other person, if needed using the discussion tab (every page has one) or the persons discussion tab (which everyone has) | ||
::Strikethroughs have no place in an article. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 08:04, 1 September 2009 (EDT) | ::Strikethroughs have no place in an article. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 08:04, 1 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
:::Contrary to popular opinion, having your work deleted or rewritten is to be expected on wikis. It sucks, and if you can't accept that, I suggest you try a different format (e.g. a blog). [[User:Nx|Nx]] 08:14, 1 September 2009 (EDT) | :::Contrary to popular opinion, having your work deleted or rewritten is to be expected on wikis. It sucks, and if you can't accept that, I suggest you try a different format (e.g. a blog). [[User:Nx|Nx]] 08:14, 1 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
:::: '''Strikethrough is the same as having your work deleted or rewritten. It is just an edit that can be edited later. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]''' | |||
:::Are strikeouts more appropriate for unfacts placed on talk pages? ;-) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 02:08, 3 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
::::This would be an example of what, IMO, would constitute an "unsubstantiated opinion": "Strikethroughs have no place in an article." Umm do you imagine yourself to be a higher authority that the bureaucrat who wrote this guideline? Just my 2c. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 02:08, 3 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
== Main authors of this "guideline" == | == Main authors of this "guideline" == |
Latest revision as of 06:14, 4 September 2009
- Avoid deleting other people's work
- Even when that "work" is just plain wrong?
- If it is plain wrong, go ahead and link or note the better source that you have, and exchange your well sourced information for the flawed information. Lumenos 01:57, 3 September 2009 (EDT)
- Jesus said, "judge not lest ye be judged", and "stop judging by mere appearances and make a right judgment". In other words, don't judge (if you are not good at it), if you are good at it, then judge properly instead of improperly. I think this represents the absolute Truthism, which we should all follow. Lumenos 01:57, 3 September 2009 (EDT)
- Then the question becomes, "but WWJD at WikiIndex?" Definitely follow Wikipedia's guideline on verifiability. Why? Because someone's opinion of what the facts are, is debatable, but an actual fact, is less debatable. Therefore, you may exchange your actual facts for any unsubstantiated onions, in WikiIndex, and do not have to worry about it being contested. Lumenos 02:01, 3 September 2009 (EDT)
- I don't know if I explained properly, what I mean by an "actual fact". I mean one that includes the source in keeping with Wikipedia's guideline on verifiability. Lumenos 02:03, 3 September 2009 (EDT)
- Then the question becomes, "but WWJD at WikiIndex?" Definitely follow Wikipedia's guideline on verifiability. Why? Because someone's opinion of what the facts are, is debatable, but an actual fact, is less debatable. Therefore, you may exchange your actual facts for any unsubstantiated onions, in WikiIndex, and do not have to worry about it being contested. Lumenos 02:01, 3 September 2009 (EDT)
- Even when that "work" is just plain wrong?
- If you must delete and something you deleted reappears, do not delete it a second time. Use strikethrough and work it out with the other person, if needed using the discussion tab (every page has one) or the persons discussion tab (which everyone has)
- Strikethroughs have no place in an article. Nx 08:04, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
- Contrary to popular opinion, having your work deleted or rewritten is to be expected on wikis. It sucks, and if you can't accept that, I suggest you try a different format (e.g. a blog). Nx 08:14, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
- Strikethrough is the same as having your work deleted or rewritten. It is just an edit that can be edited later. ~~ MarkDilley
- Are strikeouts more appropriate for unfacts placed on talk pages? ;-) Lumenos 02:08, 3 September 2009 (EDT)
- This would be an example of what, IMO, would constitute an "unsubstantiated opinion": "Strikethroughs have no place in an article." Umm do you imagine yourself to be a higher authority that the bureaucrat who wrote this guideline? Just my 2c. Lumenos 02:08, 3 September 2009 (EDT)
- Contrary to popular opinion, having your work deleted or rewritten is to be expected on wikis. It sucks, and if you can't accept that, I suggest you try a different format (e.g. a blog). Nx 08:14, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
- Strikethroughs have no place in an article. Nx 08:04, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
Main authors of this "guideline"[edit]
I neglecting to mention in the page history, that I moved this page, and all but my "suggestion" at the top, was the work of these two:
- (cur) (last) 20:10, 16 December 2008 Kardan (Talk | contribs) m (522 bytes) (Category: WikiIndex)
- (cur) (last) 04:35, 12 March 2007 TedErnst (Talk | contribs) (New page: * Avoid deleting other people's work * If you must delete and something you deleted reappears, do not delete it a second time. Use strikethrough and work it out with the other person, if n...)
Lumenos 01:16, 3 September 2009 (EDT)
- Actually it was all written by bureaucrat TedErnst. Kardan only added a category. Ted has only one post in 2008 and one post in March 2009, if his user history is accurate. Lumenos 01:37, 3 September 2009 (EDT)
Proposal to delete all TedErnst's contributions[edit]
I believe this "guideline" does not reflect current consensus of the administration or editors. I move that all but my message at the top, be blanked. Lumenos 01:39, 3 September 2009 (EDT)
- On second thought. They are not bad ideas, so I will give it a rewrite and support it. Lumenos 01:43, 3 September 2009 (EDT)