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# Change default email for WikiIndex messages.  Right now it is it coming from John Stanton's personal email and he is not active here anymore.
# [[mw:Extension:Admin Links]] — ''Pro:'' anything to help sysops has gotta be a bonus - ''Con:'' grumpy sysops if you don't :p
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# [[mw:Extension:CategoryTree]] ''Pro:'' this would be really helpful in seeing how our categories are constructed  - ''Con:''  IIRC CategoryTree is broken on the most recent version(s) of MediaWiki, as per [[mw:Extension talk:CategoryTree]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST)  - Check to see if still broken
# [[mw:Extension:WikiEditor]] ''Pro'' - More user friendly editing interface, simpler to understand and has many features to assist inexperienced editors [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 15:17, 21 January 2013 (PST)Arcane
# [[mw:Extension:Admin Links]] — ''Pro:'' anything to help sysops has gotta be a bonus - ''Con:'' grumpy sysops if you don't :p
# [[mw:Extension:Translate]] — ''Pro:'' would help make this wiki open for all languages. - ''Con:'' Any?
# [[mw:Extension:Maps]] — ''Pro:'' this would be really good for our City-Wiki entries, uses maps from more than one source (Google, Yahoo, OpenStreetMaps, etc) - ''Con:''
# [[mw:Extension:SpecialUserScore]] — ''Pro:'' it just lists edit counts of people (something interesting for stats geeks) and it helps people to see who is building WikiIndex - ''Con:'' probably doesn't add any real value to WikiIndex
# [[mw:Extension:SpecialUserScore]] — ''Pro:'' it just lists edit counts of people (something interesting for stats geeks) and it helps people to see who is building WikiIndex - ''Con:'' probably doesn't add any real value to WikiIndex
# [[mw:Extension:Maps]] — ''Pro:'' this would be really good for our City-Wiki entries, uses maps from more than one source (Google, Yahoo, OpenStreetMaps, etc) - ''Con:''
# [[mw:Extension:Translate]] — ''Pro:'' would help make this wiki open for all languages.  - ''Con:'' Any?
# Change default email for WikiIndex messages.  Right now it is it coming from John Stanton's personal email and he is not active here anymore.
# [[mw:Extension:Labeled Section Transclusion]] — ''Pro:'' would help select a part to transclusion and we need it for the relationship among [[Template:Wiki]],[[Template:Wiki boilerplate]], [[Template:NewWiki boilerplate]], and [[Community Portal]].--[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 05:00, 13 April 2013 (PDT)  - ''Con:'' Any?
# [[mw:Extension:Labeled Section Transclusion]] — ''Pro:'' would help select a part to transclusion and we need it for the relationship among [[Template:Wiki]],[[Template:Wiki boilerplate]], [[Template:NewWiki boilerplate]], and [[Community Portal]].--[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 05:00, 13 April 2013 (PDT)  - ''Con:'' Any?
# [[mw:Extension:LastUserLogin]] — ''Pro:'' would let us know a person's activity.  - ''Con:'' Any?
# [[mw:Extension:NewUserMessage]] — ''Pro:'' would automatcally place a welcome message.  - ''Con:''  The effort of personally welcoming someone is what builds community I think.  I am afraid that a robot generated welcome message would deter from a welcoming environment.  It certainly would place information on a person's talk page, not sure how valuable that is though.  Best, Mark
# [[mw:Extension:NewUserMessage]] — ''Pro:'' would automatcally place a welcome message.  - ''Con:''  The effort of personally welcoming someone is what builds community I think.  I am afraid that a robot generated welcome message would deter from a welcoming environment.  It certainly would place information on a person's talk page, not sure how valuable that is though.  Best, Mark
# [[mw:Extension:LastUserLogin]] — ''Pro:'' would let us know a person's activity. - ''Con:'' Any?
# [[mw:Extension:CategoryTree]] — ''Pro:'' this would be really helpful in seeing how our categories are constructed - ''Con:'' IIRC CategoryTree is broken on the most recent version(s) of MediaWiki, as per [[mw:Extension talk:CategoryTree]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST) - Check to see if still broken
# [[mw:Extension:WikiEditor]] ''Pro'' - More user friendly editing interface, simpler to understand and has many features to assist inexperienced editors [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 15:17, 21 January 2013 (PST)Arcane
# [[mw:Extension:WikiEditor]] ''Pro'' - More user friendly editing interface, simpler to understand and has many features to assist inexperienced editors [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 15:17, 21 January 2013 (PST)Arcane
# <s>[[mw:Extension:IconLink]]</s> — ''Pro:'' as raised [[Talk:Welcome#Favicons|here]] - ''Con:''  The code could do with a bit of updating (and preferrably a security review, too). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST)  - Striking out because we don't have capacity to update code or do a security review. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
# <s>[[mw:Extension:IconLink]]</s> — ''Pro:'' as raised [[Talk:Welcome#Favicons|here]] - ''Con:''  The code could do with a bit of updating (and preferrably a security review, too). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST)  - Striking out because we don't have capacity to update code or do a security review. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
# <s>[[mw:Extension:FaviconLink]]</s> — ''Pro:''  - ''Con:'' The code is a mess and in the past, there was a XSS vulnerability in it. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST) Striking out because we don't have capacity to update code or do a security review. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
# <s>[[mw:Extension:FaviconLink]]</s> — ''Pro:''  - ''Con:'' The code is a mess and in the past, there was a XSS vulnerability in it. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST) Striking out because we don't have capacity to update code or do a security review. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]

Revision as of 04:13, 22 April 2013

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For earlier upgrading discussions from 2006, see: WikiIndex:Upgrade Discussion.
For discussions from 2011, see: WikiIndex:Spring 2011 Upgrade Path.

WikiIndex:Upgrades needed — this page is to be used for raising suggestions and discussing strategies for upgrading our MediaWiki software used by WikiIndex. It can typically include any of the published, and stable, MediaWiki Extensions; or any other applicable and workable strategies. Please add any suggestions or offerings in any of the subheadings below (or create a new subheading), and discuss.

MediaWiki version

Need - upgrade to 1.19.5
Want -

Are we on the best version, would that be part of an update of extensions? Best, MarkDilley

Right now (14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST)) WikiIndex is running MW 1.19.1; the newest stable version is 1.20.2 and 1.19.3 is the newest version of the 1.19.x branch. So yes, an upgrade could be nice. :) --Jack Phoenix (talk) 14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST)

Update: 1.20.4 is the very latest version, and 1.19.5 is the latest of the '1.19' branch. 1.19.5 seems to include a few security updates over our current version. If you arn't inclined to go down the latest 1.20 version, then at least upgrade to 1.19.5 -- :) Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmintalk2HH 12:28, 21 April 2013 (PDT)

Images

Favicon - WI Favicon.png - Pro - it is awesome; Con - Can it be keys?

http://wikiapiary.com/w/images/wikiapiary/b/b4/Monitored_by_WikiApiary.png WikiApiary:Monitored by

LinkSpam / WikiSpam / Vandalism

Need -
  1. mw:Extension:AbuseFilterPro: as discussed here and Jack suggested using this. - Con: Any?
  2. mw:Extension:SimpleAntiSpam = Pro: Jack suggested using this
  3. mw:Extension:CheckUserPro: used for checking IP addresses - Con: Any?
    1. It's beyond me how come, as of 2013 (sic), CheckUser still isn't a part of MediaWiki core; and why on Earth isn't this extension installed on WikiIndex already?! --Jack Phoenix (talk) 14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST) - I think it is really important, since some admins spend almost a whole day blocking new accounts. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 02:45, 13 April 2013 (PDT)
Want -
  1. mw:Extension:NoBogusUserpages - Pro: - would obviate the need to police User: (IP address) pages since they cannot be created by anyone except the legitimate user of the IP - Con - would not stop spammer from posting spam on the User IP page if that is their actual IP.
  2. mw:Extension:NukePro: allows sysops to delete numerous pages as one - Con: Not necessary, since those spams are from different usernames and IPs. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 21:29, 13 April 2013 (PDT) - so I will strike this if this is correct.

Account creation protection

Need -
Want -
  1. mw:Extension:TitleBlacklistPro: can be used to stop spambots from creating accounts – Con: looks complicated
  2. mw:Extension:RenameuserPro: allows people who registered under an alias to have account changed to RealName and maintain edit histories – Con: none
  3. mw:Extension:User Merge and DeletePro: Rename changes the name of one account, whereas this can merge or combine two accounts into one, and deletes the account not needed. – Con: Very dangerous, can permanently delete user accounts (but this can be set for 'crat permission only)
  4. mw:Extension:ConfirmAccountPro: can be used to stop spambots from creating accounts, think of this ethos of having a door bouncer on guard at a nightclub – Con: needs active Sysops/Bureaucrats to monitor new account requests (but surely it is better to prevent trouble, rather than letting everyone in, and then stopping the mess and clearing up spam and vandalism) Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmintalk2HH 01:48, 15 March 2013 (PDT) Question: can this be toggled on and off?

General housekeeping

Need -
  1. Change default email for WikiIndex messages. Right now it is it coming from John Stanton's personal email and he is not active here anymore.
  2. mw:Extension:Admin LinksPro: anything to help sysops has gotta be a bonus - Con: grumpy sysops if you don't :p
Want -
  1. mw:Extension:WikiEditor Pro - More user friendly editing interface, simpler to understand and has many features to assist inexperienced editors Arcane (talk) 15:17, 21 January 2013 (PST)Arcane
  2. mw:Extension:TranslatePro: would help make this wiki open for all languages. - Con: Any?
  3. mw:Extension:MapsPro: this would be really good for our City-Wiki entries, uses maps from more than one source (Google, Yahoo, OpenStreetMaps, etc) - Con:
  4. mw:Extension:SpecialUserScorePro: it just lists edit counts of people (something interesting for stats geeks) and it helps people to see who is building WikiIndex - Con: probably doesn't add any real value to WikiIndex
  5. mw:Extension:Labeled Section TransclusionPro: would help select a part to transclusion and we need it for the relationship among Template:Wiki,Template:Wiki boilerplate, Template:NewWiki boilerplate, and Community Portal.--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 05:00, 13 April 2013 (PDT) - Con: Any?
  6. mw:Extension:LastUserLoginPro: would let us know a person's activity. - Con: Any?
  7. mw:Extension:NewUserMessagePro: would automatcally place a welcome message. - Con: The effort of personally welcoming someone is what builds community I think. I am afraid that a robot generated welcome message would deter from a welcoming environment. It certainly would place information on a person's talk page, not sure how valuable that is though. Best, Mark
  8. mw:Extension:CategoryTreePro: this would be really helpful in seeing how our categories are constructed - Con: IIRC CategoryTree is broken on the most recent version(s) of MediaWiki, as per mw:Extension talk:CategoryTree. --Jack Phoenix (talk) 14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST) - Check to see if still broken
  9. mw:Extension:IconLinkPro: as raised here - Con: The code could do with a bit of updating (and preferrably a security review, too). --Jack Phoenix (talk) 14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST) - Striking out because we don't have capacity to update code or do a security review. ~~ MarkDilley
  10. mw:Extension:FaviconLinkPro: - Con: The code is a mess and in the past, there was a XSS vulnerability in it. --Jack Phoenix (talk) 14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST) Striking out because we don't have capacity to update code or do a security review. ~~ MarkDilley

Bugs

Need -
Want -

1) Sometimes people get their sidebar reset to MediaWiki standard. I have had it happen myself just recently as well. ~~ MarkDilley

This is most apparent between when you are logged in or logged out. I don't think it is specific to any browser - I use either IE8, Firefox, Chrome or Maxthon 3 - and they all do it. Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmintalk2HH 03:49, 20 March 2013 (PDT)

2) Sean can not get his email confirmed, this has happened to a few people.

3) From John Vandenberg:

These emails are saying the server is localhost

 From: MediaWiki Mail <[email protected]>
 Date: Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:48 AM
 Subject: ThinkiWiki at WikiIndex has been changed by Hoof Hearted
 To: Jayvdb 

 Dear Jayvdb,

 The WikiIndex page ThinkiWiki has been changed on 12 March 2013 by Hoof Hearted, see http://localhost/ThinkiWiki for the current revision.

 See http://localhost/index.php?title=ThinkiWiki&diff=0&oldid=82525 for all changes since your last visit.

 Editor's summary: Text replace - "{{tag|Open Source}}" to "{{tag|open source}}" This is a minor edit

 Contact the editor:
 mail: http://localhost/Special:EmailUser/Hoof_Hearted
 wiki: http://localhost/User:Hoof_Hearted

 There will be no other notifications in case of further changes unless you visit this page.

 You could also reset the notification flags for all your watched pages on your watchlist.

 Your friendly WikiIndex notification system


 To change your e-mail notification settings, visit http://localhost/Special:Preferences

 To change your watchlist settings, visit http://localhost/Special:EditWatchlist

 To delete the page from your watchlist, visit http://localhost/index.php?title=ThinkiWiki&action=unwatch

 Feedback and further assistance: http://localhost/Help:Contents

4) Atom feed (on Android devices) - seems to lag a few 'edits' behind current desktop version. Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmintalk2HH 03:49, 20 March 2013 (PDT)

5) what to do with My spam blacklist not working... it seems this is working again :/ Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmintalk2HH 03:43, 20 March 2013 (PDT)

On the back-burner

This sub-section can be used making suggestions for beta extensions, ie, those we might like to add at a later date once they've evolved into a stable extension

  1. mw:Extension:MassEditRegexPro: can be used by Sysops for 'bot'-like edits, without the need for creating bot scripts - Con: still in beta phase
    1. The extension status (alpha/beta/stable) means very little in reality...installing and testing it is a better way to see whether it works on WikiIndex's version of MediaWiki. --Jack Phoenix (talk) 14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST)
    2. I can vouch for this. I've used the MassEditRegex extension on my own wiki repeatedly and it has proven quite stable and does what it is intended to do. I highly recommend it. Arcane (talk) 12:43, 25 January 2013 (PST)Arcane
    3. Issue is we don't have a dedicated back end developer to work on WikiIndex, know anyone who can? :-) So I say strike out for now.