1,756
edits
Talk:Nathania: Difference between revisions
→Strength of nations
(→Strength of nations: if it's wrong, public trust in WikiIndex will collapse?) |
Leucosticte (talk | contribs) |
||
| Line 29: | Line 29: | ||
:::The Wikipedia article was based off one of the more recent versions of ''Strength of Nations''. However, that date came from the title screen, I think. I doubt that del Rio would have bothered to update that, since changing an image would have been harder than just changing a [[wikipedia:String (computer science)|string]] in a program. Yeah, del Rio is probably around; and usually I've found that game developers are more than willing to talk about their projects. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 13:06, 14 March 2014 (UTC) | :::The Wikipedia article was based off one of the more recent versions of ''Strength of Nations''. However, that date came from the title screen, I think. I doubt that del Rio would have bothered to update that, since changing an image would have been harder than just changing a [[wikipedia:String (computer science)|string]] in a program. Yeah, del Rio is probably around; and usually I've found that game developers are more than willing to talk about their projects. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 13:06, 14 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
::::Yes, it is possible that he wrote the game intending to release in 1987, but wasn't ready by then, so postponed release until 1988, but you are correct, if it was coded as an image, it would have been more trouble to fix. I found del Rio's email address, but, frankly, there is not enough necessity here to justify pinging him. There is zero claim out there for a release date of 1987 other than this article, (and it is release date that would matter, if any of this mattered at all, and it doesn't). If you know that 1987 was in the title screen of the first, or early versions, hey, great find, of interest if anyone wants to play a game of trivial pursuit. "What early video game was released in 1988, but the early screens said 1987?" But it is of no relevance to the WikiIndex listing of Nathania. "The 1980s video game ..." Personally, I'd just go for 1988, and if it's wrong, so what? Public trust in WikiIndex will collapse? --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 13:21, 14 March 2014 (UTC) | ::::Yes, it is possible that he wrote the game intending to release in 1987, but wasn't ready by then, so postponed release until 1988, but you are correct, if it was coded as an image, it would have been more trouble to fix. I found del Rio's email address, but, frankly, there is not enough necessity here to justify pinging him. There is zero claim out there for a release date of 1987 other than this article, (and it is release date that would matter, if any of this mattered at all, and it doesn't). If you know that 1987 was in the title screen of the first, or early versions, hey, great find, of interest if anyone wants to play a game of trivial pursuit. "What early video game was released in 1988, but the early screens said 1987?" But it is of no relevance to the WikiIndex listing of Nathania. "The 1980s video game ..." Personally, I'd just go for 1988, and if it's wrong, so what? Public trust in WikiIndex will collapse? --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 13:21, 14 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
:::::Yeah, we need to get {{w|Don LaFontaine}}'s successor, whoever that might be, to narrate this high-stakes scenario for our viewers, as it's getting pretty serious. "In a wiki where vandals have run wild..." [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 14:01, 14 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
::(edit conflict with above) This is likely definitive: cd.textfiles.com/softkeyep/PROGRAMS/DOSGAMES/.../NATION.DOC (find the actual file through the googlelink I gave, but with "1988"). The earliest copyright date is January 1, 1988. That's version 0, which may never have been released. If it was, he just could have blown his copyright by claiming a 1988 year instead of 1987, under the old law, anyway. I read that date as meaning he was working on the game, and put a copyright date into it of January 1, coming up, because he knew he would not release until then or later. There is no sign that anyone but maybe him knew about the game in 1987. There are 1,640 results supporting 1988, this one very explicit, compared to one supporting 1987, this one created by the open proxy vandal. Whaddaya think, we should AGF? "1988, but according to [[Special:Contributions/77.109.141.138]], an open proxy, before before the BON turned into a clear vandal, it's 1987." Whaddaya think, this is excessive detail? Ah, but it's Truth! If it's Truth, it MUST be included, that's article one in the [[Inclusionist Manifesto]], right? --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 13:14, 14 March 2014 (UTC) | ::(edit conflict with above) This is likely definitive: cd.textfiles.com/softkeyep/PROGRAMS/DOSGAMES/.../NATION.DOC (find the actual file through the googlelink I gave, but with "1988"). The earliest copyright date is January 1, 1988. That's version 0, which may never have been released. If it was, he just could have blown his copyright by claiming a 1988 year instead of 1987, under the old law, anyway. I read that date as meaning he was working on the game, and put a copyright date into it of January 1, coming up, because he knew he would not release until then or later. There is no sign that anyone but maybe him knew about the game in 1987. There are 1,640 results supporting 1988, this one very explicit, compared to one supporting 1987, this one created by the open proxy vandal. Whaddaya think, we should AGF? "1988, but according to [[Special:Contributions/77.109.141.138]], an open proxy, before before the BON turned into a clear vandal, it's 1987." Whaddaya think, this is excessive detail? Ah, but it's Truth! If it's Truth, it MUST be included, that's article one in the [[Inclusionist Manifesto]], right? --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 13:14, 14 March 2014 (UTC) | ||