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== could we use some system of ISO codes? == | |||
'''[[:Category:Wiki Language]]''' Rather than use only English names (easy for navigation but arbitrary and defeats multi-lingualism), we could use some system of ISO codes such as "[[:Category:en (English)]]", "[[:Category:de (German, Deutsch)]]", "[[:Category:es (Spanish, español)]]", "[[:Category:zh (Chinese, 中文)]]". This would have some consistency and standardization while also allowing English to remain a lingua franca and let users find content in their own language. Thoughts? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 16:02, 29 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
: I think this is a fantastic idea. What can folks do to help? ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | |||
:: '''Converting''' I think it would be easy to do by myself. I'll leave this conversation here for a week or two and see if there's more feedback. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 00:54, 4 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
I'm not sure this is a good idea. Previous attempts of extended multilingual efforts on WikiIndex failed. The German de.WikiIndex.org failed, as did French & Swedish translations - despite having active editors in those languages. | |||
I would also expect that only a tiny minority of folks <u>fully</u> understand ISO language codes. --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 23:58, 5 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
: '''Language sorting''' Then how should we sort them? Do we want this site to be multi-lingual? I would certainly hope so. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 05:53, 6 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
:: I look at is as an "easy" way to take a step in that direction. Makes it more friendly to multi-linguists. Or at least that is the perception I have. ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | |||
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Template:TOCright Should there be a distinction between wikis that are bilingual (e.g. WikiIndex-English & French), multilingual (e.g. Wikimedia Commons-multiple languages used within the same wiki), and multiple languages (e.g. most Wikimedia Foundation projects, such as the Wikipedia that have versions in different languages [as subdomains])? User:BlankVerse | talk 00:44, 27 Mar 2006 (EST)
Merge to "Language"?
Wiki Language is confusing - sounds like it's about wiki markup or some such thing. Merge into Category:Language? Articles in Category:Language can stay in the root category, and the subcategory can be for specific languages. --Chris Watkins a.k.a. Singkong2005 talk 21:39, 2 September 2006 (EDT)
"Category:Latin" vs "Category:Wiki Latin"
language category simplification proposal
Someone is starting to set up two parallel categories of languages.
- categories like "Category: Wiki Latin"
- categories like "Category: Latin"
Alas, currently most articles in such categories are miscategorized -- they have one tag when they "should" have the other tag.
Category simplification proposal:
- Add one new category that indicates that our article is about a wiki that discusses some language itself; perhaps Category: linguistic or Category: language.
- Get rid of all the "Category:Wiki Latin" and similar categories; edit pages that use them to use the simpler "Category:Latin" and similar categories.
Advantage: one kind of language category, rather than two, saves time and effort and confusion.
Disadvantage: people looking for a wiki that discusses the Latin language (or discusses some other specific language) must a little more work -- instead of going right to a category that exclusively lists "wiki that discuss the Latin language", they must dig through a long list of wiki in "Category: linguistic" or "Category: language" looking for the wiki that discuss their specific language of interest.
Do the advantages outweigh the disadvantages? Are there other advantages/disadvantages that I am missing? --DavidCary 15:17, 3 February 2009 (EST)
- I think Speckmade initiated the parallel categories for languages. I've tried to help correct pages that ended up being miscategorized as a result of the change. However, I would prefer the simpler solution of putting all wikis about language itself into a Category:Linguistics or some such. The disadvantage of not being able to easily find a specific language is true, but I think it's an easier-to-maintain solution. Also, if we find that a sub-category is needed for any particular language due to a large number of entries in the linguistics category, we can always add that later. --MarvelZuvembie 20:36, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
could we use some system of ISO codes?
Category:Wiki Language Rather than use only English names (easy for navigation but arbitrary and defeats multi-lingualism), we could use some system of ISO codes such as "Category:en (English)", "Category:de (German, Deutsch)", "Category:es (Spanish, español)", "Category:zh (Chinese, 中文)". This would have some consistency and standardization while also allowing English to remain a lingua franca and let users find content in their own language. Thoughts? Koavf (talk) 16:02, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- I think this is a fantastic idea. What can folks do to help? ~~ MarkDilley
I'm not sure this is a good idea. Previous attempts of extended multilingual efforts on WikiIndex failed. The German de.WikiIndex.org failed, as did French & Swedish translations - despite having active editors in those languages.
I would also expect that only a tiny minority of folks fully understand ISO language codes. --Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • Admin / 'Crat • talk2HH 23:58, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
- Language sorting Then how should we sort them? Do we want this site to be multi-lingual? I would certainly hope so. Koavf (talk) 05:53, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
- I look at is as an "easy" way to take a step in that direction. Makes it more friendly to multi-linguists. Or at least that is the perception I have. ~~ MarkDilley
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