User talk:Koavf

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Policy regarding user articles

I have started a vote on said topic here. --This is MY book, and I'm gonna READ IT!!! 09:56, 18 January 2017 (PST)

How to deal with others

Telling someone "don't be a jerk" is generally wrong — especially if it's true. It upsets the other person and reduces the chance that they'll listen to what you say.

Focus on behaviour, not on individuals. Say what you want and why you want it. Say why you think the other person's behaviour is counterproductive. Assume good faith to the maximum extent possible. If you don't understand why someone is doing something, ask. Don't rush to complain until you are sure that good faith negotiations can't work. Understand before insisting on being understood.

Remember that your perception can be wrong. If the other person is writing in an unfamiliar language, or has a different cultural background, you may misunderstand their intentions.

Above all, be genuine. Don't ask questions when you know the answer. Don't say you want one thing if you want another. Don't try to persuade people of things that aren't true. Do not respond to jerkitude in kind, no matter how tempting it may be.

Exerpt from: here. You do not follow Your own rules. --Manorainjan 09:12, 25 January 2017 (PST)

Okay Why are you being coy? Koavf (talk) 09:16, 25 January 2017 (PST)

I'm certainly not coy. And You should not call me a jerk either. It would be going against wp:Wikipedia:No personal attacks wouldn't it? --Manorainjan 09:19, 25 January 2017 (PST)

PA? Since you love wiki-lawyering: I didn't call you a jerk. I refuse to believe that you don't know better. You are absolutely playing dumb about how your behavior of harassing and deliberately provoking others is both real and detrimental to this site. I'm telling you to stop now and if I see more instances of you harassing other users, I'll block you. It's not hard to ask you to be a decent person and this is a conversation that we've been having for years. Koavf (talk) 09:25, 25 January 2017 (PST)

I do not love what You have linked to, not even knew it. Your link does not lead to any specific page/artikle. Correct Your link, if anything is to be said by this! --Manorainjan 09:33, 25 January 2017 (PST)

Exhibit A The page is a redirect (and you obviously know what that is) leading to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikilawyering. Stop being so abrasive. Koavf (talk) 11:03, 25 January 2017 (PST)

Now, after reading it, I ask You, why You are pointing this to me?

"A common mistake of misguided advocacy is when a person appoints himself a mediator and proceeds with judging the sides by telling them whether they are right or wrong instead of helping the sides to better state their positions and to find common grounds. It is not uncommon that one side is indeed wrong, and in such a case a mediator begins to appear to take sides thus alienating the wrong side and triggering their defense instincts, further entrenching them against an amicable resolution."

This is exactly what You are used to do. Now I got a link for You to read it carefully: wp:Psychological projection Manorainjan 11:16, 25 January 2017 (PST)

Direction I am directing this to you because your behavior is the common denominator of the problems and that's also obviously by design. I'm not sure how this quotation is supposed to be relevant as I'm not self-appointed: I was given the position of an admin because others think I can be of value here. Others are questioning your value to the community due to your disposition. You can act childish about this and pretend like you are unimpeachable but the reality is that you make it a point to be obnoxious and abrasive to others, driving them away from the site. Koavf (talk) 11:20, 25 January 2017 (PST)

Do You understand the nature of projection, even remotely? Manorainjan 11:24, 25 January 2017 (PST)

Projection Yes. Do you understand what I'm telling you about your behavior and how it is inappropriate? Koavf (talk) 11:34, 25 January 2017 (PST)