User talk:Koavf

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Policy regarding user articles

I have started a vote on said topic here. --This is MY book, and I'm gonna READ IT!!! 09:56, 18 January 2017 (PST)

How to deal with others

Telling someone "don't be a jerk" is generally wrong — especially if it's true. It upsets the other person and reduces the chance that they'll listen to what you say.

Focus on behaviour, not on individuals. Say what you want and why you want it. Say why you think the other person's behaviour is counterproductive. Assume good faith to the maximum extent possible. If you don't understand why someone is doing something, ask. Don't rush to complain until you are sure that good faith negotiations can't work. Understand before insisting on being understood.

Remember that your perception can be wrong. If the other person is writing in an unfamiliar language, or has a different cultural background, you may misunderstand their intentions.

Above all, be genuine. Don't ask questions when you know the answer. Don't say you want one thing if you want another. Don't try to persuade people of things that aren't true. Do not respond to jerkitude in kind, no matter how tempting it may be.

Exerpt from: here. You do not follow Your own rules. --Manorainjan 09:12, 25 January 2017 (PST)

Okay Why are you being coy? Koavf (talk) 09:16, 25 January 2017 (PST)

I'm certainly not coy. And You should not call me a jerk either. It would be going against wp:Wikipedia:No personal attacks wouldn't it? --Manorainjan 09:19, 25 January 2017 (PST)

PA? Since you love wiki-lawyering: I didn't call you a jerk. I refuse to believe that you don't know better. You are absolutely playing dumb about how your behavior of harassing and deliberately provoking others is both real and detrimental to this site. I'm telling you to stop now and if I see more instances of you harassing other users, I'll block you. It's not hard to ask you to be a decent person and this is a conversation that we've been having for years. Koavf (talk) 09:25, 25 January 2017 (PST)

I do not love what You have linked to, not even knew it. Your link does not lead to any specific page/artikle. Correct Your link, if anything is to be said by this! --Manorainjan 09:33, 25 January 2017 (PST)

Exhibit A The page is a redirect (and you obviously know what that is) leading to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikilawyering. Stop being so abrasive. Koavf (talk) 11:03, 25 January 2017 (PST)

Now, after reading it, I ask You, why You are pointing this to me?

"A common mistake of misguided advocacy is when a person appoints himself a mediator and proceeds with judging the sides by telling them whether they are right or wrong instead of helping the sides to better state their positions and to find common grounds. It is not uncommon that one side is indeed wrong, and in such a case a mediator begins to appear to take sides thus alienating the wrong side and triggering their defense instincts, further entrenching them against an amicable resolution."

This is exactly what You are used to do. Now I got a link for You to read it carefully: wp:Psychological projection Manorainjan 11:16, 25 January 2017 (PST)

Direction I am directing this to you because your behavior is the common denominator of the problems and that's also obviously by design. I'm not sure how this quotation is supposed to be relevant as I'm not self-appointed: I was given the position of an admin because others think I can be of value here. Others are questioning your value to the community due to your disposition. You can act childish about this and pretend like you are unimpeachable but the reality is that you make it a point to be obnoxious and abrasive to others, driving them away from the site. Koavf (talk) 11:20, 25 January 2017 (PST)

Do You understand the nature of projection, even remotely? Manorainjan 11:24, 25 January 2017 (PST)

Projection Yes. Do you understand what I'm telling you about your behavior and how it is inappropriate? Koavf (talk) 11:34, 25 January 2017 (PST)

You are not asking for understanding. You are asking for obedience. --Manorainjan 02:14, 26 January 2017 (PST)

So? They aren't mutually exclusive. You're being willfully ignorant again--you keep on playing these childish games and I don't understand what the end point is. You know what you're doing, you know why you are doing it, and you know that you need to stop. Koavf (talk) 14:36, 26 January 2017 (PST)

Unblock request

Hello, I'm TheTVFan. I requested my account to be blocked due to Manoraninjan's harassment. As I see, he is temporarily blocked, so I would like to ask you to unblock my account, so that I start contributing here again. --62.212.73.141 11:25, 27 January 2017 (PST)

That is such a sad state of affairs - when a valid wiki contributor requests to be personally blocked due to harassment of another user! Can you provide some diffs / links to said conflicts - as I have not followed your plight? Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • _{Admin / 'Crat} • talk2HH 12:22, 27 January 2017 (PST)

Hello Hoof Hearted, you can see some examples of his bad behaviour here (personal attacks), here (harassing) and here (I'm not sure if it's him, but it's a suspect anonymous). Thank you for your reply. Sorry for my use of proxy, but I had to, because in the past the aforementioned user tried to trace my location. 103.10.197.11 12:46, 27 January 2017 (PST)

No need to apologise - I am fully aware of just how sneaky he can be. Now unblocked - welcome back to the fold. :-)) Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • _{Admin / 'Crat} • talk2HH 16:18, 27 January 2017 (PST)

Thanks as well To you and to Hoof/Sean (please feel free to always post on my talk or step in for admin tasks when I am busy at work). Let's get going on this wiki, guys. Koavf (talk) 18:52, 27 January 2017 (PST)

Thanks to both of you :) --TheTVFan (talk) 00:41, 28 January 2017 (PST)

Footer copyright text

Are you aware of how to edit the copyright warning as shown at the footer of every page? Someone previously suggested MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning, but its text looks nothing like what is shown in our footer. I'm asking because both the license AND the fair use disclaimer are both linked (together) to the off-site Creative Commons license page - and there should be two separate links. Best, Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • _{Admin / 'Crat} • talk2HH 23:21, 31 January 2017 (PST)

Local Settings Unfortunately, it's not accessible through the MediaWiki interface but rather much deeper in the settings. One would need access to the server for LocalSettings.php. I should get access to that soon but do not have it now. Koavf (talk) 23:37, 31 January 2017 (PST)

OK, thanks. Can you ask Ray if I can also have access? Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • _{Admin / 'Crat} • talk2HH 03:59, 1 February 2017 (PST)

Of course He and I are scheduled to have a chat this Saturday or next and I'd be happy to let you have access to the developer side of things--you are a trusted user. Koavf (talk) 09:28, 1 February 2017 (PST)

Wiki.Wiki

Hello Koavf: is Wiki.Wiki still active, or is it going to be closed? I'm asking because I saw that they are not accepting new wikis anymore, and I asked this to Ray but he never replied. Thanks, --TheTVFan (talk) 09:46, 1 February 2017 (PST)

No clue Your guess is as good as mine. Although there is definitely some overlap between users here and there (like Jason and Ray), I am not associated with .wiki at all. I imagine that it is like many of the new flood of TLDs which are underused and many persons thought they could monetize them but couldn't. That's just speculation, of course. Koavf (talk) 20:10, 1 February 2017 (PST)

Indeed, I was only making speculations like you :-). I thought of the possible "closure" because of the inactivity of users Jason and BrandonCSSanders who were active here in the past. Thanks for your reply. Best, --TheTVFan (talk) 05:57, 2 February 2017 (PST)