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 ==not really a measure for quality==
 {{U|MattisManzel}} 06:32, 19 Mar 2006 (EST): size is ok. But it's not really a measure for quality. I think measuring the number of links on the [[WikiNode|wiki-node]] to wikis who link back to the wiki-node of the measured wiki might be interesting. Plus if a wiki has a link to the wiki-node on its [[Wiki main page|frontpage]] or in the [[sidebar]]. This doesn't measure quality either, but a certain degree of wikiness :) OneBigSoup-wise, I mean. The competitve attitude (create [[stub]]s to push your ranking) vs. the collaborative attitude (look around and make others link back).
-: Stubs don't count when counting articles.  Neither do [[redirect]]s, [[talk page]]s, [[user page]]s, etc.  We'll see if this Size project gets off the ground.  [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 11:09, 19 Mar 2006 (EST)
+:[[:Category:Stubs|Stubs]] don't count when counting articles.  Neither do [[redirect]]s, [[talk page]]s, [[user page]]s, etc.  We'll see if this Size project gets off the ground.  [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 11:09, 19 Mar 2006 (EST)
 ::This page needs to make it clear that by size, it is refering to the number of full-fledged webpages. [[User:BlankVerse]] | <small>[[User talk:BlankVerse|talk]]</small> 21:34, 29 Mar 2006 (EST)
 ::" Stubs don't count when counting articles." What about wikis that use [[:Category:Oddmuse|OddMuse]]? It looks like those wikis don't have a non-stub page count. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 21:24, 25 October 2006 (EDT)
-::“Stubs don't count when counting articles.” What about wikis that use [[:Category:Wetpaint|Wetpaint]]? Wetpaint wikis don't seem to have a stats page. WikiIndex pagecount of 73 for [[Arrestapedia]] was derived from number of pages in Arrestapedia's  “Recently Updated Pages” report .. but that report includes stubs such as “3.13 Development Arrested” page which consists of a “This is a template page...” default message. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 18:42, 7 January 2008 (EST)
+:::“Stubs don't count when counting articles.” What about wikis that use [[:Category:Wetpaint|Wetpaint]]? Wetpaint wikis don't seem to have a stats page. WikiIndex pagecount of 73 for [[Arrestapedia]] was derived from number of pages in Arrestapedia's  “Recently Updated Pages” report .. but that report includes stubs such as “3.13 Development Arrested” page which consists of a “This is a template page...” default message. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 18:42, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 ==Use real size numbers==
-Size is an extremely important parameter.  When I search for wikis, I will almost always be most interested in the biggest/most active.  The way size is measured is not very important, as long as it is as consistent as possible.  Fortunately, MediWiki already has a generally available "real, substantial pages" measure, so it makes sense to use that.
+Size is an extremely important parameter.  When I search for wikis, I will almost always be most interested in the biggest/most active.  The way size is measured is not very important, as long as it is as consistent as possible.  Fortunately, [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] already has a generally available "real, substantial pages" measure, so it makes sense to use that.
 But I find the [[:Category:Wiki Size|categories]] here very confusing.  When I look at an article here, and see a wiki rated as "over 200 pages", I immediately want to know, 200-500?  200-1000? 200-2000?  I don't think these categories are helpful.  Why not just say "about 237 pages" or "about 237 pages on 14feb07"?  Appropriate, user-controllable categories can usefully be applied later, but why fuzz the data from the get-go?  And if categories *are* going to be applied at the source, they should have a full name there, 200to999 etc.  The short form category name should only be used in an ordered list where the bounds are obvious.--[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.67|69.87.199.67]] 05:53, 15 February 2007 (PST)