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* [http://lumeniki.referata.com/wiki/LumenikiLu_policies Lumeniki's inclusion policies] are not completely decided but Lumenos sees a number of ways to improve on Wikipedia's policies. Wikipedia does not officially consider content to be notable or reliable if it is "original research" or information from self-published sources. "[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 10:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT) This creates a bias towards commercial content and runs contrary to the very thing that makes Wikipedia good; that it has info that is timely and less censored, than what is usually found in 'published' sources that are supposed to be highly accurate. With the rise of the Internet, self-publishing is the future of publishing and we need ways to evaluate self-published sources rather than excluding them completely." | * [http://lumeniki.referata.com/wiki/LumenikiLu_policies Lumeniki's inclusion policies] are not completely decided but Lumenos sees a number of ways to improve on Wikipedia's policies. Wikipedia does not officially consider content to be notable or reliable if it is "original research" or information from self-published sources. "[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 10:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT) This creates a bias towards commercial content and runs contrary to the very thing that makes Wikipedia good; that it has info that is timely and less censored, than what is usually found in 'published' sources that are supposed to be highly accurate. With the rise of the Internet, self-publishing is the future of publishing and we need ways to evaluate self-published sources rather than excluding them completely." | ||
** For reliability Lumeniki instead aims to use the articles to evaluate sources and to evaluate wiki editors (editors of Lumeniki or other wikis). | ** For reliability Lumeniki instead aims to use the articles to evaluate sources and to evaluate wiki editors (editors of Lumeniki or other wikis). | ||
** For notability Lumeniki suggests a more consensus based approach to establish notability. Some think Wikipedia claims to be about consensus, but this is only consensus as to what "reliable" sources claim. "[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 10:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT) Editors can do what they want for a while but I've seen some interesting content deleted from Wikipedia. The article on Wikinfo was removed despite following Wikipedia's polices." | ** For notability Lumeniki suggests a more consensus based approach to establish notability. Some think Wikipedia claims to be about consensus, but this is only consensus as to what "reliable" sources claim. "[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 10:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT) Editors can do what they want for a while but I've seen some interesting content deleted from Wikipedia. <del>The article on Wikinfo was removed despite following Wikipedia's polices.</del>" "Actually I guess WP:WEB is more restrictive than the general notability guideline. Wikinfo has an article now, but it is a redirect to a little section that is about wiki history. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 22:32, 18 August 2009 (EDT)" | ||
* The ability to easily backup and move all your favorite articles in the wiki. Actually, for you the advantage of Lumeniki, is that Lumenos does backups periodically. This can be done from "Special pages / Export pages" (upload can only be done by administrators, however). "[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 00:50, 10 August 2009 (EDT) I get the list of pages from "Special pages / All pages" copy and paste to a spreadsheet. This lets me copy each column into the exporter box. MediaWiki will generate a list of categories although this list is more difficult to clean up. Lumeniki suffered minimal losses when [[ScribbleWiki]] and their "backup service" went down the toilet, while much more popular wikis died due to lack of backups. If Referata becomes unavailable, I will probably upload the most recent backup to Wiki-site, redirect some external links to Lumeniki and we are back in business. The hardest part is that we would have to redirect all the links to Lumeniki from external sites. For example, Wikiindex would have to point to the new wiki or it will look like Lumeniki is dead. A text editor with "find and replace" makes this easier but it is still so much work I may not bother with many of them." | * The ability to easily backup and move all your favorite articles in the wiki. Actually, for you the advantage of Lumeniki, is that Lumenos does backups periodically. This can be done from "Special pages / Export pages" (upload can only be done by administrators, however). "[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 00:50, 10 August 2009 (EDT) I get the list of pages from "Special pages / All pages" copy and paste to a spreadsheet. This lets me copy each column into the exporter box. MediaWiki will generate a list of categories although this list is more difficult to clean up. Lumeniki suffered minimal losses when [[ScribbleWiki]] and their "backup service" went down the toilet, while much more popular wikis died due to lack of backups. If Referata becomes unavailable, I will probably upload the most recent backup to Wiki-site, redirect some external links to Lumeniki and we are back in business. The hardest part is that we would have to redirect all the links to Lumeniki from external sites. For example, Wikiindex would have to point to the new wiki or it will look like Lumeniki is dead. A text editor with "find and replace" makes this easier but it is still so much work I may not bother with many of them." | ||
("[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 10:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT) I'm tempted to create links in this article but I like to keep the wiki portable and I don't want to have to update a bunch of links if I move to a different wiki host. Humm actually that might not be very difficult using 'find and replace', but I should move this summary to Lumeniki where I can create the links easier.") | ("[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 10:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT) I'm tempted to create links in this article but I like to keep the wiki portable and I don't want to have to update a bunch of links if I move to a different wiki host. Humm actually that might not be very difficult using 'find and replace', but I should move this summary to Lumeniki where I can create the links easier.") |
Revision as of 02:32, 19 August 2009
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Wiki license: | Memeware (like Public Domain) / Copysate / You may choose your own license for an article you add"Memeware (like Public Domain) / Copysate / You may choose your own license for an article you add" is not in the list (Custom license, Attribution to contributing authors, Copyright to contributing authors, Site retains copyright, WTFPL, Licence Art Libre, Open Content License, Apache License, BSD Documentation License, FreeBSD Documentation License, ...) of allowed values for the "Wiki license" property. |
Main topic: | General Interest |
Lumeniki suggests a research and debate methodology known as Lumenism. As of 30th July there is only one regular editor, Lumenos, but others are welcome to join. The research topics are currently Lumenos' interests (you are welcome to add your own). However, other people are now represented in Lumeniki because email correspondence is copied in and Lumeniki links to other forums and wiki's. These are all a part of Lumeneti.
Research topics include (see the wiki for more/updated info):
- Home economics:
- Lumenos interviews an engineer who may be able to develop a more viable method for backyard solar electricity generation using a converted steam engine.
- Converting waste into food. Mmmm yummy!
- A guide to the cheapest mp3/mp4 players.
- A guide to booting a normal Windows installation as a virtual machine.
- Philosophy:
- Value theory: Lumenos invented consequism to define benefit and evaluate moral systems, societies, or gods, according to their benevolence, and to distinguish this sort of evaluation from moralistic fallacy.
- Lumism describes Lumenos most undeniable perceptions and questions. From this framework is built Lumenosity (an eclectic religion incorporating elements of intelligent design, liberal Christianity, shamanism, etc) and Lumentialism (an atheistic philosophy similar to existentialism). (Lumenos is debating himself, you see.)
Is yet another wiki really necessary? Perhaps not. If Lumenos finds other wikis with the following qualities, he may move the content there:
- Wikiforum: Editors can quote themselves (as Lumenos does in this article) and ask questions in articles. You don't have to pretend to be the omniscient Wizard of Oz; you can mention something that is noteworthy without presenting it as certainty. You represent yourself not the wiki.
- Copysate license: This avoids many of the totalitarian requirements of default intellectual property rights, but entitles developers to a royalty on any profits made by anyone else, using their work. ("Lumenos 10:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT) Some wikis may allow custom licenses for articles. Wikinfo might. I might move some or all the content there.")
- Lumeniki's inclusion policies are not completely decided but Lumenos sees a number of ways to improve on Wikipedia's policies. Wikipedia does not officially consider content to be notable or reliable if it is "original research" or information from self-published sources. "Lumenos 10:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT) This creates a bias towards commercial content and runs contrary to the very thing that makes Wikipedia good; that it has info that is timely and less censored, than what is usually found in 'published' sources that are supposed to be highly accurate. With the rise of the Internet, self-publishing is the future of publishing and we need ways to evaluate self-published sources rather than excluding them completely."
- For reliability Lumeniki instead aims to use the articles to evaluate sources and to evaluate wiki editors (editors of Lumeniki or other wikis).
- For notability Lumeniki suggests a more consensus based approach to establish notability. Some think Wikipedia claims to be about consensus, but this is only consensus as to what "reliable" sources claim. "Lumenos 10:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT) Editors can do what they want for a while but I've seen some interesting content deleted from Wikipedia.
The article on Wikinfo was removed despite following Wikipedia's polices." "Actually I guess WP:WEB is more restrictive than the general notability guideline. Wikinfo has an article now, but it is a redirect to a little section that is about wiki history. Lumenos 22:32, 18 August 2009 (EDT)"
- The ability to easily backup and move all your favorite articles in the wiki. Actually, for you the advantage of Lumeniki, is that Lumenos does backups periodically. This can be done from "Special pages / Export pages" (upload can only be done by administrators, however). "Lumenos 00:50, 10 August 2009 (EDT) I get the list of pages from "Special pages / All pages" copy and paste to a spreadsheet. This lets me copy each column into the exporter box. MediaWiki will generate a list of categories although this list is more difficult to clean up. Lumeniki suffered minimal losses when ScribbleWiki and their "backup service" went down the toilet, while much more popular wikis died due to lack of backups. If Referata becomes unavailable, I will probably upload the most recent backup to Wiki-site, redirect some external links to Lumeniki and we are back in business. The hardest part is that we would have to redirect all the links to Lumeniki from external sites. For example, Wikiindex would have to point to the new wiki or it will look like Lumeniki is dead. A text editor with "find and replace" makes this easier but it is still so much work I may not bother with many of them."
("Lumenos 10:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT) I'm tempted to create links in this article but I like to keep the wiki portable and I don't want to have to update a bunch of links if I move to a different wiki host. Humm actually that might not be very difficult using 'find and replace', but I should move this summary to Lumeniki where I can create the links easier.")
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