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* [http://lumeniki.referata.com/wiki/LumenikiLu_policies Lumeniki's inclusion policies] are not completely decided but Lumenos sees a number of ways to improve on Wikipedia's policies. Wikipedia does not officially consider content to be notable or reliable if it is "original research" or information from self-published sources. "[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 10:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT) This creates a bias towards commercial content and runs contrary to the very thing that makes Wikipedia good; that it has info that is timely and less censored, than what is usually found in 'published' sources that are supposed to be highly accurate. With the rise of the Internet, self-publishing is the future of publishing and we need ways to evaluate self-published sources rather than excluding them completely." | * [http://lumeniki.referata.com/wiki/LumenikiLu_policies Lumeniki's inclusion policies] are not completely decided but Lumenos sees a number of ways to improve on Wikipedia's policies. Wikipedia does not officially consider content to be notable or reliable if it is "original research" or information from self-published sources. "[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 10:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT) This creates a bias towards commercial content and runs contrary to the very thing that makes Wikipedia good; that it has info that is timely and less censored, than what is usually found in 'published' sources that are supposed to be highly accurate. With the rise of the Internet, self-publishing is the future of publishing and we need ways to evaluate self-published sources rather than excluding them completely." | ||
** For reliability Lumeniki instead aims to use the articles to evaluate sources and to evaluate wiki editors (editors of Lumeniki or other wikis). | ** For reliability Lumeniki instead aims to use the articles to evaluate sources and to evaluate wiki editors (editors of Lumeniki or other wikis). | ||
** For notability Lumeniki suggests a more consensus based approach to establish notability. Some think Wikipedia claims to be about consensus, but this is only consensus as to what "reliable" sources claim. "[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 10:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT) Editors can do what they want for a while but I've seen some interesting content deleted from Wikipedia. The article on Wikinfo was removed despite following Wikipedia's polices." | ** For notability Lumeniki suggests a more consensus based approach to establish notability. Some think Wikipedia claims to be about consensus, but this is only consensus as to what "reliable" sources claim. "[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 10:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT) Editors can do what they want for a while but I've seen some interesting content deleted from Wikipedia. <del>The article on Wikinfo was removed despite following Wikipedia's polices.</del>" "Actually I guess WP:WEB is more restrictive than the general notability guideline. Wikinfo has an article now, but it is a redirect to a little section that is about wiki history. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 22:32, 18 August 2009 (EDT)" | ||
* The ability to easily backup and move all your favorite articles in the wiki. Actually, for you the advantage of Lumeniki, is that Lumenos does backups periodically. This can be done from "Special pages / Export pages" (upload can only be done by administrators, however). "[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 00:50, 10 August 2009 (EDT) I get the list of pages from "Special pages / All pages" copy and paste to a spreadsheet. This lets me copy each column into the exporter box. MediaWiki will generate a list of categories although this list is more difficult to clean up. Lumeniki suffered minimal losses when [[ScribbleWiki]] and their "backup service" went down the toilet, while much more popular wikis died due to lack of backups. If Referata becomes unavailable, I will probably upload the most recent backup to Wiki-site, redirect some external links to Lumeniki and we are back in business. The hardest part is that we would have to redirect all the links to Lumeniki from external sites. For example, Wikiindex would have to point to the new wiki or it will look like Lumeniki is dead. A text editor with "find and replace" makes this easier but it is still so much work I may not bother with many of them." | * The ability to easily backup and move all your favorite articles in the wiki. Actually, for you the advantage of Lumeniki, is that Lumenos does backups periodically. This can be done from "Special pages / Export pages" (upload can only be done by administrators, however). "[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 00:50, 10 August 2009 (EDT) I get the list of pages from "Special pages / All pages" copy and paste to a spreadsheet. This lets me copy each column into the exporter box. MediaWiki will generate a list of categories although this list is more difficult to clean up. Lumeniki suffered minimal losses when [[ScribbleWiki]] and their "backup service" went down the toilet, while much more popular wikis died due to lack of backups. If Referata becomes unavailable, I will probably upload the most recent backup to Wiki-site, redirect some external links to Lumeniki and we are back in business. The hardest part is that we would have to redirect all the links to Lumeniki from external sites. For example, Wikiindex would have to point to the new wiki or it will look like Lumeniki is dead. A text editor with "find and replace" makes this easier but it is still so much work I may not bother with many of them." | ||
("[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 10:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT) I'm tempted to create links in this article but I like to keep the wiki portable and I don't want to have to update a bunch of links if I move to a different wiki host. Humm actually that might not be very difficult using 'find and replace', but I should move this summary to Lumeniki where I can create the links easier.") | ("[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 10:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT) I'm tempted to create links in this article but I like to keep the wiki portable and I don't want to have to update a bunch of links if I move to a different wiki host. Humm actually that might not be very difficult using 'find and replace', but I should move this summary to Lumeniki where I can create the links easier.") | ||