User talk:John Stanton

tagging

check out Add a Wiki and How do tags work. I jiggered it a bit, let me know what u think, thx --Ray 02:44, 27 Jan 2006 (EST)

WSR3

hi John, WSR3 is becoming active. see http://www.wikisym.org/wiki/index.php/WSR_3 -- Max

future wiki-nodes

Hello John, I am toying with the mark-up for wikinodes that are not there and TedErnst asked me a good question. Can we currently sort on a no for URL_wikinode? Meaning if we do what I am thinking about (e.g. The_league_of_scarybirds with the - WikiNode) does that damage being able to find those? Best, MarkDilley | talk

List of wikis by size

Is it possible to introduce another categorization criteria, by size (conservative pages count)? 84.177.187.236 04:17, 27 Feb 2006 (EST)

Page count would be interesting, but difficult to keep up-to-date. It would also be interesting to measure other things, like the edit rate of wikis, which will vary over time. And the number of active users. But we wouldn't want to be measuring these things by hand. We could try to build a tool to automate some wiki analysis. Visiting wikis as a web-bot. It could also present the figures on the wikiindex wiki by updating the wiki as bot, but it might be easier to implement as a seperate display, as least initially. -- Harry Wood 06:26, 27 Feb 2006 (EST)

At least for Mediawikis with more than 7000 articles and Wikimedia Projects a batch process like this alredy exists. http://s23.org/wikistats/ You should contact the author in offering aid to extend his efforts. 84.177.187.236 07:51, 27 Feb 2006 (EST)

Hi, im the author. Do you already check the wikis automatically to some extent or is this all manual still? Do you already get data from the Special:Statistics?action=raw pages? Mutante 08:25, 27 Feb 2006 (EST)

Still pretty much a manual operation with a thought to future automation. Welcome any suggestions and/or help along this line John Stanton

Could you extract a list of all Mediawiki URLs, something like "select old_text from text where old_text LIKE "%Recentchanges%"; hmm,or make a mysql dump file and grep it from there? If we had a list with all Special:Statistics URLs of the listed Mediawikis that would be the key to make automated statistics. Mutante 16:02, 27 Feb 2006 (EST)

Main Page

Hi John, Sean over at Meatball pointed us in this direction: How do I change the main page for whenever you get around to it. Best, MarkDilley | talk (uhhh, wait, that didn't tell us anything... )

I'm pretty sure that what that means is that (and an admin will have to do this as the page is protected) the page MediaWiki:Mainpage just needs to edited to say the name of another page. 158.135.241.100 02:43, 1 Mar 2006 (EST)

Exactly what is it that we want to do here? John Stanton 15:11, 2 Mar 2006 (EST)

Map the upper left logo to Wiki Index

Then Wiki Index is going to have to be set as the main page. Clicking that logo is meant to be a shortcut back to the main page. Right now it is mapped there, but that's only because the page it's really mapped to redirects there. —User:Sean Fennel@ 02:03, 6 Mar 2006 (EST)

I just notced that mediawiki.org has their main page set up exactly the way we've been discussing here: "main" page is page with same name as the wiki itself. —User:Sean Fennel@ 02:06, 6 Mar 2006 (EST)

Hope that does the trick John Stanton 15:16, 8 Mar 2006 (EST)

Cool John!!! MarkDilley | talk

upgrading

Sean Fennel has been discussing the merits of an upgrade here. How does it look from your end? TedErnst | talk 00:11, 12 Apr 2006 (EDT)

We are in the planning stage for an upgrade from MediaWiki 1.4.5 to 1.6.3 which is the stable current version. If 1.7.X becomes the stable version before we upgrade we will use that version. This promises to be a difficult upgrade for the following reasons: (1) the database schema changes significantly and that nearly always creates problems, (2) a variety of modifications that we have made to enable things like editable menus will have to be redone, and (3) the pretty URL hack may break the whole upgrade process. We have an unused wiki to practice on to refine the process and I hope to have all the wikis in our stable upgraded by 15 May 2006 barring any really tough problems. I tell you all this so that you can understand my reluctance to introduce any more variables into this process before we upgrade. Let us see what the status of the RSS feeds is after the upgrade and then we can decide what to do. John Stanton

new wiki button

brilliant with the pre-load! I love it! TedErnst | talk 15:30, 10 May 2006 (EDT)

Thanks Ted John Stanton 18:52, 10 May 2006 (EDT)

clickpic

John!!

I think I know what this might mean! The images in the structured data might be able to be mapped to the wiki, right!?!!?! This is awesome!! MarkDilley

Exactly! 67.160.171.38 20:32, 11 May 2006 (EDT)

I tried it. It didn't work. TedErnst | talk 13:44, 12 May 2006 (EDT)

May require some tinkering to work inside another template. It is meant to get an external logo and point it to a wiki page. I think you reversed the usage trying to get a local wiki image and point to an external site. Anyhow play with it and see if you can put it to good use. It could serve as a model for your usage. Another advantage to getting the external Logo is that you can always tell when the wiki is dead :-) John Stanton 18:56, 12 May 2006 (EDT)

no follow on links?

Hi John, check this out. Best, MarkDilley

The NoFollow setting is a default anti-spam setting in mediawiki and essentially makes spam postings a useless exercise because it makes links on the wiki "no counters" for Google ranking (and other indexers). There should be a policy decision made as to its use or non-use! John 11:59, 19 May 2006 (EDT)

monobook.js

John,, could you please comment on User talk:Sean Fennel#monobook.js? I don't really know much about this, other than that it could help us automate repetitive tass a bit more. TedErnst | talk 13:25, 28 May 2006 (EDT)

I replied on User talk:Sean Fennel John 13:51, 28 May 2006 (EDT)

.htaccess

John, I've just installed mediawiki at http://chicagocoop.net/wiki and I'd like to have the urls show up like they do here, http://chicagocoop.net/wiki/PageName without the index.php and such. How do I do that? Thanks! TedErnst | talk 14:16, 11 June 2006 (EDT)

This is what our .htaccess looks like John 16:17, 11 June 2006 (EDT)

RewriteEngine on

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -f [ornext]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -d
RewriteRule .* - [last]

RewriteRule ^([^?].+)$ /index.php/$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^(.+)$ /index.php/$1 [L,QSA]

AddDefaultCharset utf-8

Thanks! I'll give it a try. TedErnst | talk 19:15, 11 June 2006 (EDT)

MyNavMenu

Another mediawiki question for you. I can't figure out how to edit the sidebar on my new install. I see that here at WikiIndex it's MediaWiki:MyNavMenu, but that page doesn't exist on my new install. Any suggestions? TedErnst | talk 14:44, 11 June 2006 (EDT)

AhHa now you are after the secrets of the trade :-). The two menus on the side require a modification to the skin code in Monobook.php. We have several different Monobook.php files for differing configurations of Google AdSense as well as one that does not use any ads. Let me know which one you want & I'll send it to you. John 16:25, 11 June 2006 (EDT)

The no-ad version would be great. Thanks! TedErnst | talk 19:15, 11 June 2006 (EDT)