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:In [[Form:Wiki]] source it says that we can type no to tell the [[Template:Wiki]] that there aren't any node in the wiki. But every time I used the form, it didn't accept no. I thought the type string would accept it, so I made the edit. --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 18:10, 30 March 2013 (PDT)
:In [[Form:Wiki]] source it says that we can type no to tell the [[Template:Wiki]] that there aren't any node in the wiki. But every time I used the form, it didn't accept no. I thought the type string would accept it, so I made the edit. --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 18:10, 30 March 2013 (PDT)


== Spam fighting / user name space ==
==Spam fighting / user name space==
 
Hi - thanks for flagging up all them spam edits.  If you see another flood like this, and don't see any sysops deleting it, message any of us which are online to deal with it.
Hi - thanks for flagging up all them spam edits.  If you see another flood like this, and don't see any sysops deleting it, message any of us which are online to deal with it.


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::Thank you for flagging spam. As someone who despises spam, your help is greatly appreciated. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 20:09, 30 April 2013 (PDT)Arcane
::Thank you for flagging spam. As someone who despises spam, your help is greatly appreciated. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 20:09, 30 April 2013 (PDT)Arcane


== Redirects ==
==Redirects==
 
Hi again.  Can you please refrain from creating hard redirects to non-WikiIndex articles?  That means no redirects to other sites such as Wikimedia, Uncyclomedia or Wikia wikis, etc.  Redirects should only be used for existing articles or categories here on WikiIndex.  If there is a real need to link to offsite wikis, we specifically use the [[InterWiki]] table.  Best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 04:30, 14 April 2013 (PDT)
Hi again.  Can you please refrain from creating hard redirects to non-WikiIndex articles?  That means no redirects to other sites such as Wikimedia, Uncyclomedia or Wikia wikis, etc.  Redirects should only be used for existing articles or categories here on WikiIndex.  If there is a real need to link to offsite wikis, we specifically use the [[InterWiki]] table.  Best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 04:30, 14 April 2013 (PDT)
:OK, I'll find where they are requested by, and fix them. --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 04:53, 14 April 2013 (PDT)
:OK, I'll find where they are requested by, and fix them. --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 04:53, 14 April 2013 (PDT)
::[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Template%3AUncyclopedia&diff=166205&oldid=163651 Fixed].  --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 04:57, 14 April 2013 (PDT)
::[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Template%3AUncyclopedia&diff=166205&oldid=163651 Fixed].  --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 04:57, 14 April 2013 (PDT)


== Logos ==
==Logos==
Hi - great work with your logo hunting.  Can I please ask that you don't change an internal [[wikilink]] to an external url hotlink if the logos are identical - as you did with [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Category:Wikipedia&diff=prev&oldid=167529 this edit] [[:Category:Wikipedia|here]].  Also, feel free to [[Special:Upload|upload]] any new or updated logos if you are able to (I often hotlink when there is no existing logo because I'm too lazy sometimmes to upload! - but we really ought to upload every logo).
Hi - great work with your logo hunting.  Can I please ask that you don't change an internal [[wikilink]] to an external url hotlink if the logos are identical - as you did with [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Category:Wikipedia&diff=prev&oldid=167529 this edit] [[:Category:Wikipedia|here]].  Also, feel free to [[Special:Upload|upload]] any new or updated logos if you are able to (I often hotlink when there is no existing logo because I'm too lazy sometimmes to upload! - but we really ought to upload every logo).


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::Thanks for the link on the evolution of the Wikipedia logo.  I now understand why you've been changing them.  Maybe we can still keep the old logo by floating a thumbnail on the left side of the article - as per [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Template:Wikipedia&diff=168304&oldid=165367 this template edit].  Best [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:02, 1 May 2013 (PDT)
::Thanks for the link on the evolution of the Wikipedia logo.  I now understand why you've been changing them.  Maybe we can still keep the old logo by floating a thumbnail on the left side of the article - as per [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Template:Wikipedia&diff=168304&oldid=165367 this template edit].  Best [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:02, 1 May 2013 (PDT)


== Appreciate your effort here! ==
==Appreciate your effort here!==
 
Many thanks!  Do you have a first name to go by, i.e. [[Hoof Hearted]] is Sean?  I am a big advocate of [[real name]]s but not forcing them, just asking :-)  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
Many thanks!  Do you have a first name to go by, i.e. [[Hoof Hearted]] is Sean?  I am a big advocate of [[Real Names]] but not forcing them, just asking :-)  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: OK. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  00:18, 30 April 2013 (PDT)
: OK. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  00:18, 30 April 2013 (PDT)
:: ''Me with a booming smile :-D ~~ [[MarkDilley]]''
:: ''Me with a booming smile :-D ~~ [[MarkDilley]]''
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:OK. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  17:51, 30 April 2013 (PDT)
:OK. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  17:51, 30 April 2013 (PDT)


== Subst vs transcluded templates ==
==Subst vs transcluded templates==
 
Hi [[YiFei]],  couple of points. 1) we are no where any size that [[Wikipedia]] is and so from a technological and spam point of view, I don't think it is an issue there.  2) My main point is to have the wiki look as clean as it can, and yes, that is especially at an editing the page level. I think that date stamps and all the other colors, formatting in signatures is problematic - to me it is noise and adds no value to the wiki.  Yes you are talking to a pre-Wikipedia person :-)  So, I was playing with the idea of [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Category_talk%3AActive_administrators_of_this_wiki&diff=168555&oldid=168554 moving all the "stuff"] into signatures to clean up the wiki.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
Hi [[YiFei]],  couple of points. 1) we are no where any size that [[Wikipedia]] is and so from a technological and spam point of view, I don't think it is an issue there.  2) My main point is to have the wiki look as clean as it can, and yes, that is especially at an editing the page level. I think that date stamps and all the other colors, formatting in signatures is problematic - to me it is noise and adds no value to the wiki.  Yes you are talking to a pre-Wikipedia person :-)  So, I was playing with the idea of [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Category_talk%3AActive_administrators_of_this_wiki&diff=168555&oldid=168554 moving all the "stuff"] into signatures to clean up the wiki.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: Hi. What if the templates like [[Template:HoofHearted]] is spammed? Is there any way to protect is so that only [[Sean]] could edit it? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  18:00, 4 May 2013 (PDT)
: Hi. What if the templates like Template:HoofHearted is spammed? Is there any way to protect is so that only [[Sean]] could edit it? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  18:00, 4 May 2013 (PDT)
It could be protected just for [[sysops]] - consider this course of action. Doing the easiest next step. In this case, seeing if it becomes a spam target. My guess is that we won't have to worry about it.  Also, I don't think the timestamp can be transcluded, which is a problem for some folks. I am ok with no action or shared action on this. :-)  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
It could be protected just for [[sysop]]s - consider this course of action. Doing the easiest next step. In this case, seeing if it becomes a spam target. My guess is that we won't have to worry about it.  Also, I don't think the timestamp can be transcluded, which is a problem for some folks. I am ok with no action or shared action on this. :-)  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: It can be substituted, but not transcluded. See [[Template:YiFei]] --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  05:39, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
: It can be substituted, but not transcluded. See Template:YiFei --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  05:39, 5 May 2013 (UTC)


I'm not sure why you are both trying to re-invent the wheel?  The default MediaWiki signature generator is the most secure method of generating a signature - and it is how all other MediaWiki installations do it.  And I'm also not sure why there is seemingly apparent denial of the very real spam problem from Mark!  Finally, I really don't get why Mark is trying to 'clean up the wiki' - signatures with timestamps is the way MediaWiki works - and that is exactly how the millions of existing MediaWiki users will be familiar with.  Mark, if you really don't like how MediaWiki works, then maybe it is time to either shut down WikiIndex, or move it back to a more prehistoric wiki engine.  A lot of effort is being wasted here .... maybe time for me to check-out - just like the many other valuable past contributors to this site! :////  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 03:42, 5 May 2013 (PDT)
I'm not sure why you are both trying to re-invent the wheel?  The default MediaWiki signature generator is the most secure method of generating a signature - and it is how all other MediaWiki installations do it.  And I'm also not sure why there is seemingly apparent denial of the very real spam problem from Mark!  Finally, I really don't get why Mark is trying to 'clean up the wiki' - signatures with timestamps is the way MediaWiki works - and that is exactly how the millions of existing MediaWiki users will be familiar with.  Mark, if you really don't like how MediaWiki works, then maybe it is time to either shut down WikiIndex, or move it back to a more prehistoric wiki engine.  A lot of effort is being wasted here .... maybe time for me to check-out - just like the many other valuable past contributors to this site! :////  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 03:42, 5 May 2013 (PDT)
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: Mark is not a backend person.  We need to put these things on the [[Upgrades]] page. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: Mark is not a backend person.  We need to put these things on the [[Upgrades]] page. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]


== User:Emufarmers ==
==User:Emufarmers==
 
The page was deleted and protected because it had been the target of a spammer/vandal. Spamming contained religious commentary which was removed. [[User:TeraS|TeraS]] ([[User talk:TeraS|talk]]) 03:47, 5 May 2013 (PDT)
The page was deleted and protected because it had been the target of a spammer/vandal. Spamming contained religious commentary which was removed. [[User:TeraS|TeraS]] ([[User talk:TeraS|talk]]) 03:47, 5 May 2013 (PDT)
:I'm just researching why he can be an sysop, how [[User:Emufarmers2]] exist without creating an account, just things like this. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  10:53, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
:I'm just researching why he can be an sysop, how [[User:Emufarmers2]] exist without creating an account, just things like this. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  10:53, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
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[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki&diff=168975&oldid=168747] [[User:Emufarmers|Emufarmers]] ([[User talk:Emufarmers|talk]]) 14:27, 7 May 2013 (PDT)
[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki&diff=168975&oldid=168747] [[User:Emufarmers|Emufarmers]] ([[User talk:Emufarmers|talk]]) 14:27, 7 May 2013 (PDT)


== bot ==
==bot==
should we make the bot, a bot in [[RecentChanges]]?  or wait for it to work for a little?  Love it!  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
should we make the bot, a bot in [[RecentChanges]]?  or wait for it to work for a little?  Love it!  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:YiFei - can you set yor bot to run a few sample tasks before we grant it official bot rights please?  --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 15:56, 11 May 2013 (PDT)
:YiFei - can you set yor bot to run a few sample tasks before we grant it official bot rights please?  --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 15:56, 11 May 2013 (PDT)
::OK. I'm still testing. There's a lot of bug in it. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  05:47, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
::OK. I'm still testing. There's a lot of bug in it. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  05:47, 12 May 2013 (UTC)


== did you get my email? ==
==did you get my email?==
 
I sent it through WikiIndex mail ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
I sent it through WikiIndex mail ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
:Yes, and I have replied. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  10:59, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
:Yes, and I have replied. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  10:59, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


== Talk page policy ==
==Talk page policy==
 
I noticed you've moved my replies in the past, and while I mostly thought it strange, I'm afraid I must ask you to please not do so in the future for a few reasons:
I noticed you've moved my replies in the past, and while I mostly thought it strange, I'm afraid I must ask you to please not do so in the future for a few reasons:
* This is not Wikipedia. The link you provided is helpful, but those rules are not necessarily applicable everywhere.
* This is not Wikipedia. The link you provided is helpful, but those rules are not necessarily applicable everywhere.
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In short, please do not remove replies from my talk pages or others in the name of your interpretation of how they should be used from now on, at least not without consulting Mark Dilley first. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 08:03, 12 June 2013 (PDT)Arcane
In short, please do not remove replies from my talk pages or others in the name of your interpretation of how they should be used from now on, at least not without consulting Mark Dilley first. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 08:03, 12 June 2013 (PDT)Arcane


== Admin Things ==
==Admin things==
 
About your request to be one of the Sysops, that I have to place in the hands of Mark as this is something that I don't feel I have the right to do without his permission. I would suggest contacting him off Wiki and talking to him about this. [[User:TeraS|TeraS]] ([[User talk:TeraS|talk]]) 13:18, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
About your request to be one of the Sysops, that I have to place in the hands of Mark as this is something that I don't feel I have the right to do without his permission. I would suggest contacting him off Wiki and talking to him about this. [[User:TeraS|TeraS]] ([[User talk:TeraS|talk]]) 13:18, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
: Ok. But I'm not sure he'll reply right now. I've already sent him some e-mails, including this request today. But the last one, about a typo in [[Template:Vandal]] and protecting [[Category talk:Wiki Topic]], he hasn't replied to me yet, and neither fixed them --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 13:46, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
: Ok. But I'm not sure he'll reply right now. I've already sent him some e-mails, including this request today. But the last one, about a typo in [[Template:Vandal]] and protecting [[Category talk:Wiki Topic]], he hasn't replied to me yet, and neither fixed them --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 13:46, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
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: I had an insane work week last week AND I found that all my WikiIndex alert messages were in my spam folder. Sorry! ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: I had an insane work week last week AND I found that all my WikiIndex alert messages were in my spam folder. Sorry! ~~ [[MarkDilley]]


== It is a wiki and people do what they can ==
==It is a wiki and people do what they can==
 
Hi [[YiFei]], see your [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sitenotice&diff=next&oldid=170693 edit summaries] and think you are frustrated - I hope not.  Look forward to the abuse filter bot - looks very helpful!  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
Hi [[YiFei]], see your [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sitenotice&diff=next&oldid=170693 edit summaries] and think you are frustrated - I hope not.  Look forward to the abuse filter bot - looks very helpful!  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: Oh. Sorry. I just find that I have to notify every sysop if I'm not. First, Sean, then, you, then Arcane. Just getting tired of that. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 14:59, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
: Oh. Sorry. I just find that I have to notify every sysop if I'm not. First, Sean, then, you, then Arcane. Just getting tired of that. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 14:59, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
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::::: See [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#Seems like account spam is increasing]]. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 02:56, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
::::: See [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#Seems like account spam is increasing]]. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 02:56, 23 June 2013 (UTC)


== On blocking no edit users ==
==On blocking no edit users==
 
Myself and the rest of the administration have been blocking no edit users like the example you brought up because, typically, most of those accounts have either matched patterns of spammers as seen on other wikis (some of whom have used these accounts as sleepers), and because most vandals and spambots make throwaway accounts with nonsense strings of information and typically tend to make many accounts in a short amount of time, either as part of their programming or as sleeper sockpuppets.
Myself and the rest of the administration have been blocking no edit users like the example you brought up because, typically, most of those accounts have either matched patterns of spammers as seen on other wikis (some of whom have used these accounts as sleepers), and because most vandals and spambots make throwaway accounts with nonsense strings of information and typically tend to make many accounts in a short amount of time, either as part of their programming or as sleeper sockpuppets.


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If you feel this policy should be changed, I suggest expressing your concerns to MarkDilley. Me personally, I have noticed how effective the Abuse filter has been, so you make a very good point for your opposition to the current policy, but by the same token, spammers and vandals can always switch tactics to get around it, and given the huge amounts of spam and vandalism we've had to fight, we tend to err on the side of caution.
If you feel this policy should be changed, I suggest expressing your concerns to MarkDilley. Me personally, I have noticed how effective the Abuse filter has been, so you make a very good point for your opposition to the current policy, but by the same token, spammers and vandals can always switch tactics to get around it, and given the huge amounts of spam and vandalism we've had to fight, we tend to err on the side of caution.


Regardless, thanks for letting me know how you feel about banning no edit users.
Regardless, thanks for letting me know how you feel about banning no edit users. --[[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 19:09, 28 June 2013 (UTC)Arcane
 
[[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 19:09, 28 June 2013 (UTC)Arcane
 
== new for me ==


==new for me==
Hi [[YiFei]], [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex:Upgrades_needed&diff=next&oldid=170991 this edit] has me baffled and a little excited as I have never seen it before, can you explain it to me. Thanks! ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
Hi [[YiFei]], [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex:Upgrades_needed&diff=next&oldid=170991 this edit] has me baffled and a little excited as I have never seen it before, can you explain it to me. Thanks! ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: I restored the page, so now the revision exists. [[Special:Permalink]] is just a shortcut to all existing (not deleted) revisions. So I made it like that. (Learnt from [[Commons:User:Leyo]]) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 05:24, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
: I restored the page, so now the revision exists. [[Special:Permalink]] is just a shortcut to all existing (not deleted) revisions. So I made it like that. (Learnt from [[Commons:User:Leyo]]) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 05:24, 29 June 2013 (UTC)


Arabic interface
==Arabic interface==
 
Thanx for Arabic interface. It is a pleasure contribute with it. Regards. [[User:Brahfous|Brahfous]] ([[User talk:Brahfous|talk]]) 13:00, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanx for Arabic interface. It is a pleasure
contribute with it.Regards.[[User:Brahfous|Brahfous]] ([[User talk:Brahfous|talk]]) 13:00, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 
== Linking english button to arabic page ==
 
Thanks  .


I tried it and it helps me a lot, but a lot of the navigation buttons are not translated into Arabic. They are all  in English except for the Toolbox which is entirely in Arabic.
==Linking english button to arabic page==
Thanks. I tried it and it helps me a lot, but a lot of the navigation buttons are not translated into Arabic. They are all  in English except for the Toolbox which is entirely in Arabic.


buttons in English link to pages in English;
buttons in English link to pages in English;
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http://wikiindex.org/%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%AD%D8%A8%D8%A7.
http://wikiindex.org/%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%AD%D8%A8%D8%A7.


Best.
Best. [[User:Brahfous|Brahfous]] ([[User talk:Brahfous|talk]]) 14:34, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 
[[User:Brahfous|Brahfous]] ([[User talk:Brahfous|talk]]) 14:34, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
:For [[Add a Wiki]], I unprotected for you. For the sidebar, can you give me a translation?
:For [[Add a Wiki]], I unprotected for you. For the sidebar, can you give me a translation?


== Buttons don't link to translated pages.Changes reverted. ==
==Buttons don't link to translated pages, changes reverted==
 
Hi. Thank you for removing the protection and pages 'Home' and 'Add a wiki'. But not refer directly to pages translated in arabic.
Hi.Thank you for removing the protection and pages 'Home' and 'Add a wiki'. But not refer directly to pages translated in arabic .
 
I was obliged to use 'Redirect'.
 
My Redirection was reverted by you.
 
Apologies if I made a mistake with the community..[[User:Brahfous|Brahfous]] ([[User talk:Brahfous|talk]]) 15:21, 2 July 2013 (UTC)


== To change all the mw-panel of my Wikiindex into arabic ==
I was obliged to use 'Redirect'. My Redirection was reverted by you. Apologies if I made a mistake with the community..[[User:Brahfous|Brahfous]] ([[User talk:Brahfous|talk]]) 15:21, 2 July 2013 (UTC)


==To change all the mw-panel of my Wikiindex into arabic==
Here are the elements of the mw-panel translated into Arabic:
Here are the elements of the mw-panel translated into Arabic:


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صفحة معلوماتي =  Page information   
صفحة معلوماتي =  Page information   


The rest of the buttons are already translated into Arabic
The rest of the buttons are already translated into Arabic. With  my gratitude. [[User:Brahfous|Brahfous]] ([[User talk:Brahfous|talk]]) 19:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 
With  my gratitude.
 
[[User:Brahfous|Brahfous]] ([[User talk:Brahfous|talk]]) 19:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
:{{Done|Partly done}}, I'm having trouble translating Page information. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:52, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
:{{Done|Partly done}}, I'm having trouble translating Page information. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:52, 3 July 2013 (UTC)


== To complete translating and linking arabic equivalent ==
==To complete translating and linking arabic equivalent==
 
Thanks for making changes to the lateral panel of WikiIndex. All is in Arabic except for ‘page information’.
 
Thanks for making changes to the lateral panel of WikiIndex.  
 
All is in Arabic except for ‘page information’ .  


Can you change this button to  صفحة معلوماتي.
Can you change this button to  صفحة معلوماتي.
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The equivalent of Sandbox(mw-head)  in Arabic is  ملعب تجربة .
The equivalent of Sandbox(mw-head)  in Arabic is  ملعب تجربة .


How to link these buttons directly to pages translated into Arabic and not to those in English , especially [[WikiIndex:إضافة_ويكي]] (Add a Wiki).
How to link these buttons directly to pages translated into Arabic and not to those in English , especially [[WikiIndex:إضافة_ويكي]] (Add a Wiki). I noticed the “other languages:ar “ link at the bottom of the page but not everyone may notice it. Gratefulnesses. [[User:Brahfous|Brahfous]] ([[User talk:Brahfous|talk]]) 19:50, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 
I noticed the “other languages:ar “ link at the bottom of the page but not everyone may notice it.  
 
Gratefulnesses.
[[User:Brahfous|Brahfous]] ([[User talk:Brahfous|talk]]) 19:50, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 
== [[Edit Summaries]] are useful ==


==[[Edit summary|Edit summaries]] are useful==
Hi [[YiFei]], please refrain from [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar&action=history using shorthand] when possible, and could you explain to me these: dyn & lc - thanks, it is much easier to follow what is going on when folks write out the words.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
Hi [[YiFei]], please refrain from [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar&action=history using shorthand] when possible, and could you explain to me these: dyn & lc - thanks, it is much easier to follow what is going on when folks write out the words.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: Ok. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 13:41, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
: Ok. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 13:41, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
:Dyn (dynamic), lc (lowercase) in those cases,  mean to use a system message instead of a constant. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 23:25, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
:Dyn (dynamic), lc (lowercase) in those cases,  mean to use a system message instead of a constant. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 23:25, 4 July 2013 (UTC)


== Anonymous editing ==
==Anonymous editing==
 
I am curious what you are wanting to do [[User talk:122.150.167.84|here]]?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
I am curious what you are wanting to do [[User_talk:122.150.167.84|here]]?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:Just found that his IP have an account, and both focus on the [[Defiance Wiki]], so they might be a the same person. (This should really be talked on private.) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:16, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
:Just found that his IP have an account, and both focus on the [[Defiance Wiki]], so they might be a the same person. (This should really be talked on private.) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:16, 27 July 2013 (UTC)


== wikiFactor of [[Deutsche Wikipedia]] ==
==wikiFactor of [[Deutsche Wikipedia]]==
Are you sure about wikiFactor of [[Deutsche Wikipedia]]?
Are you sure about [[wikiFactor]] of [[Deutsche Wikipedia]]? Before it was 125, now you write 110. It looks strange to me. Greetings --[[Special:Contributions/89.183.14.152|89.183.14.152]] 23:56, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Before it was 125, now you write 110. It looks strange to me. Greetings --[[Special:Contributions/89.183.14.152|89.183.14.152]] 23:56, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
:It said ''110 [[wp:de:Kaley Cuoco|Kaley Cuoco]] 110533'', so I do think it is 110. Please tell me if I'm wrong. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 03:28, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
:It said ''110 [[wp:de:Kaley Cuoco|Kaley Cuoco]] 110533'', so I do think it is 110. Please tell me if I'm wrong. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 03:28, 28 July 2013 (UTC)


== Voting ==
==Voting==
 
Here is some of my thoughts on voting [[Meatball:VotingIsEvil]] - best, [[MarkDilley]]
Here is some of my thoughts on voting [[Meatball:VotingIsEvil]] - best, [[MarkDilley]]


== thank you ==
==thank you==
 
Thank you for adding the magic keywords to [[WikiIndex:FrequentlyAskedQuestions]] so readers get the latest information about how many wiki are listed here.[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex%3AFrequentlyAskedQuestions&diff=170855&oldid=169960] --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] ([[User talk:DavidCary|talk]]) 16:56, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for adding the magic keywords to [[WikiIndex:FrequentlyAskedQuestions]] so readers get the latest information about how many wiki are listed here.[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex%3AFrequentlyAskedQuestions&diff=170855&oldid=169960]
--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] ([[User talk:DavidCary|talk]]) 16:56, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
:You're welcome. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 17:13, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
:You're welcome. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 17:13, 21 August 2013 (UTC)


== I don't understand ==
==I don't understand==
I don't understand what YiFeiBot is trying to do in a recent edit[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex:FrequentlyAskedQuestions&diff=prev&oldid=169960]. I assume that edit is the unwanted result of some software bug somewhere, and you didn't really mean to do that. So I reverted [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex:FrequentlyAskedQuestions&diff=next&oldid=170855]. (Since [[User talk:YiFeiBot]] redirects to your talk page, I thought you might know something about it).


I don't understand what YiFeiBot is trying to do in a recent edit[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex:FrequentlyAskedQuestions&diff=prev&oldid=169960].
If my assumption is incorrect (as they often are), please undo my revert. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] ([[User talk:DavidCary|talk]]) 17:10, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
I assume that edit is the unwanted result of some software bug somewhere, and you didn't really mean to do that.
So I reverted[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex:FrequentlyAskedQuestions&diff=next&oldid=170855].
(Since [[User talk:YiFeiBot]] redirects to your talk page, I thought you might know something about it).
 
If my assumption is incorrect (as they often are), please undo my revert.
--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] ([[User talk:DavidCary|talk]]) 17:10, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
:You're right, I didn't notice it when it runs, and the script isn't needed anymore. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 17:13, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
:You're right, I didn't notice it when it runs, and the script isn't needed anymore. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 17:13, 21 August 2013 (UTC)


== Abuse Filter as bot? ==
==Abuse Filter as bot?==
 
[[User talk:Jack Phoenix#Minor edit for Bot|question here]]. Best, [[MarkDilley]]
[http://wikiindex.org/User_talk:Jack_Phoenix#Minor_edit_for_Bot question here]. Best, [[MarkDilley]]
 
== Deleting Spam ==


==Deleting Spam==
Could you clear the deletion field ("Other/additional reason") before you delete a spam please?.....you are moving the spam from the  main page to the logs where it will remain....[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=Zhuyifei1999&page=&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&hide_patrol_log=1 forever!]...  [[User:Comets|Comets]]
Could you clear the deletion field ("Other/additional reason") before you delete a spam please?.....you are moving the spam from the  main page to the logs where it will remain....[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=Zhuyifei1999&page=&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&hide_patrol_log=1 forever!]...  [[User:Comets|Comets]]
: It is possible to oversight logs, but I'll have to ask Emufarmers for that feature. Also clearing it takes some more time, and this spam flood is extremely bad, so I didn't do that. I'll try next time. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 13:42, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
: It is possible to oversight logs, but I'll have to ask {{u|Emufarmers}} for that feature. Also clearing it takes some more time, and this spam flood is extremely bad, so I didn't do that. I'll try next time. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 13:42, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
: [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=User_talk%3ASolarLi Plus 1] - :-)  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=User_talk%3ASolarLi Plus 1] - :-)  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:: Sorry, just forgot. Maybe I'll make a script to do that next time. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 01:14, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
:: Sorry, just forgot. Maybe I'll make a script to do that next time. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 01:14, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
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:::: You're welcome, the script works fine now. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 02:45, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
:::: You're welcome, the script works fine now. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 02:45, 28 September 2013 (UTC)


== Sean ==
==[[Sean]]==
 
Looks like he is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Hoof_Hearted wiki-ing] alright! whew.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
Looks like he is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Hoof_Hearted wiki-ing] alright! whew.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:I'm afraid not. That one comes from the US. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 02:53, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
:I'm afraid not. That one comes from the US. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 02:53, 14 September 2013 (UTC)


== [[RationalWiki]] ==
==[[RationalWiki]]==
 
I try to change [[RationalWiki]] into a multilingual version. But where are some problems.
I try to change [[RationalWiki]] into a multilingual version. But where are some problems.
# [[Russian RationalWiki]] is to be moved now to [[RationalWiki (ru)]]. I can not to this.
# [[Russian RationalWiki]] is to be moved now to [[RationalWiki (ru)]]. I can not to this.
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::: :) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 11:04, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
::: :) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 11:04, 14 October 2013 (UTC)


== [[Template:TOCright]] ==
==[[Template:TOCright]]==
Thank you for your try to help. The problem of <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:TOCright]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> is a "<nowiki>clear:right</nowiki>" inside.
Thank you for your try to help. The problem of <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:TOCright]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> is a "<nowiki>clear:right</nowiki>" inside.


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:It's allways the same: First think a lot, after this do hacking. Otherwise you have double work! ;-)) --[[Special:Contributions/89.15.112.107|89.15.112.107]] 11:00, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:It's allways the same: First think a lot, after this do hacking. Otherwise you have double work! ;-)) --[[Special:Contributions/89.15.112.107|89.15.112.107]] 11:00, 24 October 2013 (UTC)


== [[Template:Wiki]] ==
==[[Template:Wiki]]==
Hello, me again! ;-) Please have a look here: [[Template talk:Wiki#About parameter_problem|Template:Wiki]] Thanks! --[[Special:Contributions/89.15.96.59|89.15.96.59]] 06:23, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello, me again! ;-) Please have a look here: [[Template talk:Wiki#About parameter problem|Template:Wiki]] Thanks! --[[Special:Contributions/89.15.96.59|89.15.96.59]] 06:23, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
: Hi, it's me! ;-) Please look again: [[Template talk:Wiki#About parameter_problem|Template:Wiki]] Thanks! --[[Special:Contributions/89.15.112.107|89.15.112.107]] 01:23, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
: Hi, it's me! ;-) Please look again: [[Template talk:Wiki#About parameter problem|Template:Wiki]] Thanks! --[[Special:Contributions/89.15.112.107|89.15.112.107]] 01:23, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
 
== MW special pages and strange templates ==


==MW special pages and strange templates==
I've noticed a few strange templates appearing - particularly dealing with page count and [[wikiFactor]] on a few differing multilingual articles, such as [[WikiMANNia]], [[Psiram]] and no doubt a few others.  They all seem to have been created by a German IP editor, and I don't understand the need for them.
I've noticed a few strange templates appearing - particularly dealing with page count and [[wikiFactor]] on a few differing multilingual articles, such as [[WikiMANNia]], [[Psiram]] and no doubt a few others.  They all seem to have been created by a German IP editor, and I don't understand the need for them.


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:[[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning-br]] and [[Template:Br]] see [[Special:AbuseFilter/18]] --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 10:29, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:[[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning-br]] and [[Template:Br]] see [[Special:AbuseFilter/18]] --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 10:29, 24 October 2013 (UTC)


== MediaWiki namespace, test editing and edit summaries ==
==MediaWiki namespace, test editing and edit summaries==
 
Please <big>'''STOP'''</big> adding un-necessary pages in the MediaWiki namespace, and please <big>'''STOP'''</big> reverting other admins edits without first discussing the issue.  Our MediaWiki setup was functioning perfectly fine without your additional pages clogging up the namespace with totally unjustified additional pages and associated cascades.  Creating cascading MediaWiki pages simply slows down the wiki, creates errors, and even creates excess server loading.
Please <big>'''STOP'''</big> adding un-necessary pages in the MediaWiki namespace, and please <big>'''STOP'''</big> reverting other admins edits without first discussing the issue.  Our MediaWiki setup was functioning perfectly fine without your additional pages clogging up the namespace with totally unjustified additional pages and associated cascades.  Creating cascading MediaWiki pages simply slows down the wiki, creates errors, and even creates excess server loading.


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Finally, please use edit summaries which we can all understand.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 17:05, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Finally, please use edit summaries which we can all understand.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 17:05, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
#They are for i18n, therefore they are not unnecessary.
:#They are for i18n, therefore they are not unnecessary.
#You deleted them first without discussing with Brafous.
:#You deleted them first without discussing with Brafous.
#You can search for i18n if you like in Google, as it is a common word. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 04:28, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:#You can search for i18n if you like in Google, as it is a common word. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 04:28, 7 November 2013 (UTC)


== Again? ==
==Again?==
 
Do you mean me personally [[edit war]]ring or are you talking about another situation at WikiIndex?  Best, Mark
Do you mean me personally edit warring or are you talking about another situation at WikiIndex?  Best, Mark
: The reverts looks like already in a war or will be in a war, which I hope that it will never happen again. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:38, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
: The reverts looks like already in a war or will be in a war, which I hope that it will never happen again. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:38, 4 December 2013 (UTC)


I think this one has been averted :-)  [[MarkDilley]]
I think this one has been averted :-)  [[MarkDilley]]


== List of harassing open proxies ==
==List of harassing open proxies==
 
[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User:Abd/Sandbox&oldid=175900] is a list of the IPs involved in the recent harassment or editing of related pages. In particular, it appears that every one of the IPs involved -- with two exceptions listed at the bottom -- is likely an open proxy or TOR node. I show entries from the meta.wikipedia global block log for some, WikiMedia Foundation stewards generally indef hard-block identified open proxy ranges, then deal with possible interference with legitimate editors by suggesting IP block exemption.
[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User:Abd/Sandbox&oldid=175900] is a list of the IPs involved in the recent harassment or editing of related pages. In particular, it appears that every one of the IPs involved -- with two exceptions listed at the bottom -- is likely an open proxy or TOR node. I show entries from the meta.wikipedia global block log for some, WikiMedia Foundation stewards generally indef hard-block identified open proxy ranges, then deal with possible interference with legitimate editors by suggesting IP block exemption.


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I have only handled local admin tasks on a WMF wiki, and only very rarely used range blocks. So this was a new kind of investigation for me. I apologize for any inconvenience, I hope we can persuade Leucosticte to be less provocative. He will generally cooperate, if given clear boundaries. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 16:14, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
I have only handled local admin tasks on a WMF wiki, and only very rarely used range blocks. So this was a new kind of investigation for me. I apologize for any inconvenience, I hope we can persuade Leucosticte to be less provocative. He will generally cooperate, if given clear boundaries. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 16:14, 8 March 2014 (UTC)


== new spamming episode ==
==new spamming episode==
 
Hi YiFei, I don't know if you are aware that spammers seem to be getting through and editing articles?  I've noticed two separate occurrences today (Monday 21 May).  If you check the edit histories of [[Wiki]] and [[Talk:WikiEngineTree]], you can get an idea of their latest methods of spamming.  Hope you will be able to update any of your abuse filter settings to counter them.
Hi YiFei, I don't know if you are aware that spammers seem to be getting through and editing articles?  I've noticed two separate occurances today (Monday 21 May).  If you check the edit histories of [[Wiki]] and [[Talk:WikiEngineTree]], you can get an idea of their latest methods of spamming.  Hope you will be able to update any of your abuse filter settings to counter them.


Hope you are well, and best regards :)  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 19:26, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Hope you are well, and best regards :)  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 19:26, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
: Sorry I was away for 2 weeks. For the [[Wiki]] one, I'm not sure about how to determine whether the two edits are spam by AF. For [[Talk:WikiEngineTree]], how about "Prevent new users from adding 10+ links with nothing more"? And thanks for notifying me :)--[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 22:42, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
: Sorry I was away for 2 weeks. For the [[Wiki]] one, I'm not sure about how to determine whether the two edits are spam by AF. For [[Talk:WikiEngineTree]], how about "Prevent new users from adding 10+ links with nothing more"? And thanks for notifying me :)--[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 22:42, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
::Like the prevent x links from being added with nothing more. Agree, not sure how to stop the other type of spam. To both of you, rockin!! ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
:::Hope [[Special:AbuseFilter/32]] will do --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 10:39, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
::::Filter 32 looks great, although I tweaked the grammar slightly, I hope that is ok (please revert if you wish).  You've done awesome work with all the abuse filters, and I think they are a massive improvement, so a huge thanks :))


: Like the prevent x links from being added with nothing more. Agree, not sure how to stop the other type of spam. To both of you, rockin!! ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
::::Just thinking out loud, could another filter be created (for new users only) which prevents new articles being created (and maybe existing articles editied) which don't include one of our main templates (the obvious being [[template:Wiki]] - but another could be [[template:NotAWiki]]), or one of our existing categories?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:23, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
:: Hope [[Special:AbuseFilter/32]] will do --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 10:39, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::Thanks for the grammar fix :)
:::Filter 32 looks great, although I tweaked the grammar slightly, I hope that is ok (please revert if you wish).  You've done awesome work with all the abuse filters, and I think they are a massive improvement, so a huge thanks :))


:::Just thinking out loud, could another filter be created (for new users only) which prevents new articles being created (and maybe existing articles editied) which don't include one of our main templates (the obvious being [[template:Wiki]] - but another could be [[template:NotAWiki]]), or one of our existing categories?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:23, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::And for "new articles with no main templates or categories"(?), could the filter only tag an edit or even just log the edit? IMO such edit might actually be useful. And what about wiki people and ideas? They usually don't have such main templates. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 03:15, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
::::Thanks for the grammar fix :)
::::::I bow to your knowledge with the filters - you know far more about them than I do :)))).  For wiki people - can you restrict a filter to work in a specic namespace?  Maybe create one filter with one set of rules for our main namespace which needs either a template and/or a category, and a different filter for User: and User talk: namespaces with say differing rules - how about limiting it to five urls, and the url must contain the word <tt>wiki</tt> - afterall, most wiki people like to list any other wikis they edit.  As for wiki ideas - good question . . . maybe we just have to accept that only autoconfirmed users can create such articles.  Would any of those suggestions work?  Best  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 15:58, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
 
:::::::Thanks :D Could the filters be:  
::::And for "new articles with no main templates or categories"(?), could the filter only tag an edit or even just log the edit? IMO such edit might actually be useful. And what about wiki people and ideas? They usually don't have such main templates. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 03:15, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::::# New users (< 5 edits) and anons have to put either a template and/or a category to their new article, or else they will be given a warning (and nothing else?). There's no good way to automatically detect whether a template or category exists afaik.
 
:::::::# User pages for new users can hold maximum 5 links unless the user page contains "wiki", or else they will be given a warning (and nothing else?).
:::::I bow to your knowledge with the filters - you know far more about them than I do :)))).  For wiki people - can you restrict a filter to work in a specic namespace?  Maybe create one filter with one set of rules for our main namespace which needs either a template and/or a category, and a different filter for User: and User talk: namespaces with say differing rules - how about limiting it to five urls, and the url must contain the word <tt>wiki</tt> - afterall, most wiki people like to list any other wikis they edit.  As for wiki ideas - good question . . . maybe we just have to accept that only autoconfirmed users can create such articles.  Would any of those suggestions work?  Best  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 15:58, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::::Are these okay for you? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:53, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
::::::Thanks :D Could the filters be:  
::::::::Sorry for the late reply :/  Yes, please go ahead with those when you get a moment. :))  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:23, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
::::::# New users (< 5 edits) and anons have to put either a template and/or a category to their new article, or else they will be given a warning (and nothing else?). There's no good way to automatically detect whether a template or category exists afaik.
:::::::::It's okay. I hope [[Special:AbuseFilter/33]] and [[Special:AbuseFilter/34]] will do, but there's no such spams atm to test these. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 02:24, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
::::::# User pages for new users can hold maximum 5 links unless the user page contains "wiki", or else they will be given a warning (and nothing else?).
::::::Are these okay for you? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:53, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry for the late reply :/  Yes, please go ahead with those when you get a moment. :))  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:23, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
::::::::It's okay. I hope [[Special:AbuseFilter/33]] and [[Special:AbuseFilter/34]] will do, but there's no such spams atm to test these. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 02:24, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 
== [[BackupPC wiki]] ==


==[[BackupPC wiki]]==
You where setting engine=MediaWiki, please check again and confirm. See http://wikiindex.org/WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal#sourceforge.net_Wiki_engine.3F as well. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 14:09, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
You where setting engine=MediaWiki, please check again and confirm. See http://wikiindex.org/WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal#sourceforge.net_Wiki_engine.3F as well. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 14:09, 8 August 2014 (UTC)


== Jake4d ==
==Jake4d==
While You are at, please rename [[:File:SelfPortrait.JPG]] to Jake4d.
While You are at, please rename [[:File:SelfPortrait.JPG]] to Jake4d.


Is it necessary to create a redirect in case of pages that did not get used/linked to until then? Why not just delete?[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 11:19, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
Is it necessary to create a [[redirect]] in case of pages that did not get used/linked to until then? Why not just delete? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 11:19, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
:I'm not sure about deletions. If you feel that an image or a redirect should be deleted, feel free to put a {{tl|delete}} there. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 11:54, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
:I'm not sure about deletions. If you feel that an image or a redirect should be deleted, feel free to put a {{tl|delete}} there. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 11:54, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
::Redirects on files are a bad idea, as they'll then create a false positive link. YiFei, do you have ability to suppress creating redirects on page move?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 16:25, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
::Redirects on files are a bad idea, as they'll then create a false positive link. YiFei, do you have ability to suppress creating redirects on page move?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 16:25, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
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:::::And a massive army of web tools :) Thanks for the explanation, and I'll suppress the redirects. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 23:48, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
:::::And a massive army of web tools :) Thanks for the explanation, and I'll suppress the redirects. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 23:48, 12 August 2014 (UTC)


== Strange "people" pages ==
==Strange "people" pages==
 
[[Special:Contributions/108.46.223.126]]. Or shall we ask [[User:Sweetie Belle]] to take care for this kind of things?  
http://wikiindex.org/Special:Contributions/108.46.223.126
Or shall we ask [[User:Sweetie Belle]] to take care for this kind of things?
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 14:28, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 14:28, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
:{{done}} deleted and blocked. Thanks for notifying ;)--[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 15:17, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
:{{done}} deleted and blocked. Thanks for notifying ;)--[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 15:17, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
::I remember those exact same articles being created some months back.  Maybe use check user and block IP for much longer?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 23:26, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
::I remember those exact same articles being created some months back.  Maybe use check user and block IP for much longer?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 23:26, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
:::To me it looked like a provocation or a test. I do not think the person is unknown to everybody to us. Therefore I was asking to involve our Sweetie, maybe she recognizes this style. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 00:12, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
::::[[Special:CheckUser/108.46.0.0/16|CU this IP range]] doesn't do much. Does it? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 23:49, 22 August 2014 (UTC)


::: To me it looked like a provocation or a test. I do not think the person is unknown to everybody to us. Therefore I was asking to involve our Sweetie, maybe she recognizes this style. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 00:12, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
==Should we have alternative infoboxes besides Template:Wiki?==
 
Discussion [[WikiIndex talk:Community portal#Alternative Infoboxes|here]]. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] ([[User talk:MarvelZuvembie|talk]]) 19:46, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
:::[[Special:CheckUser/108.46.0.0/16|CU this IP range]] doesn't do much. Does it? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 23:49, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 
== Should we have alternative infoboxes besides Template:Wiki? ==
 
Discussion [[WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal#Alternative_Infoboxes|here]]. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] ([[User talk:MarvelZuvembie|talk]]) 19:46, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 
== Polling templates ==


Could You import more?
==Polling templates==
http://wikiindex.org/Template:Polling_template
Could You import more? [[Template:Polling template]]. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 14:11, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 14:11, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
:3 templates {{done}}. But [[:File:Pictogram voting comment.svg]] didn't work :( --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 03:40, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
:3 templates {{done}}. But [[:File:Pictogram voting comment.svg]] didn't work :( --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 03:40, 31 August 2014 (UTC)


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==BOT==
==BOT==
I see work coming for Your diligent BOT: [[User_talk:Hoof_Hearted#WikiIndex:Add_a_Wiki]]
I see work coming for Your diligent BOT: [[User talk:Hoof Hearted#WikiIndex:Add a Wiki]]
:This one's hard o.O IMO it's the way that {{tl|Wiki}} works should be changed. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:06, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
:This one's hard o.O IMO it's the way that {{tl|Wiki}} works should be changed. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:06, 10 September 2014 (UTC)


Therefore I suggested fist to change the function and then to clean up (insert all missing lines) with the bot (one time).
Therefore I suggested fist to change the function and then to clean up (insert all missing lines) with the bot (one time). And, since the 'inactive' discussion remains endless, those Pages would have to be excluded from the run. Possibly there need to be several runs first in order to mark the pages which should be changed, to find out, which is a Wiki page and which not. There may be several pages which do not even have a trace of that template on them but are still (embryonic) Wiki pages. From that perspective this first run can be tried before the function is repaired. How to find Wiki pages that do not contain the Wiki template at all?  [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 11:10, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
And, since the 'inactive' discussion remains endless, those Pages would have to be excluded from the run. Possibly there need to be several runs first in order to mark the pages which should be changed, to find out, which is a Wiki page and which not. There may be several pages which do not even have a trace of that template on them but are still (embryonic) Wiki pages.
From that perspective this first run can be tried before the function is repaired. How to find Wiki pages that do not contain the Wiki template at all?  [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 11:10, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 
== Please check for SPAM ==


http://wikiindex.org/Talk:Augustine_Blakely_Larson
==Please check for SPAM==
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 17:50, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
Talk:Augustine Blakely Larson. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 17:50, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
:hmm... --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:07, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
:hmm... --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:07, 4 September 2014 (UTC)


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: I forgot to answer Your question: The reason to keep an 'orphaned' talk page is, that before it becomes orphaned it would be the place to discuss the deletion if there are objections. And the deletion was neither undisputed nor urgent.[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 11:19, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
: I forgot to answer Your question: The reason to keep an 'orphaned' talk page is, that before it becomes orphaned it would be the place to discuss the deletion if there are objections. And the deletion was neither undisputed nor urgent.[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 11:19, 10 September 2014 (UTC)


::It's sort of a wiki tradition. See [[wp:Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#G7._Author_requests_deletion]]. With regard to the talk page, see [[wp:Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#G8._Pages_dependent_on_a_non-existent_or_deleted_page]] for how Wikipedia handles that. Yeah, if the deletion discussion were carried on at the talk page, they would keep the talk page, but that almost never happens. RationalWiki does keep the talk pages of deleted subject pages. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 11:52, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
::It's sort of a wiki tradition. See [[wp:Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#G7. Author requests deletion]]. With regard to the talk page, see [[wp:Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#G8. Pages dependent on a non-existent or deleted page]] for how Wikipedia handles that. Yeah, if the deletion discussion were carried on at the talk page, they would keep the talk page, but that almost never happens. [[RationalWiki]] does keep the talk pages of deleted subject pages. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 11:52, 10 September 2014 (UTC)


: You want to argue on grounds of WP policies? Great! Than let us continue this little argument where it belongs: [[WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal#Who_cares_what_rules_Wikipedia_supposedly_follows.3F|Who cares what rules Wikipedia supposedly follows?]]
: You want to argue on grounds of WP policies? Great! Than let us continue this little argument where it belongs: [[WikiIndex talk:Community portal#Who cares what rules Wikipedia supposedly follows.3F|Who cares what rules Wikipedia supposedly follows?]]
::It's kind of like, if you're arguing a case in a U.S. Court of Appeals, mentioning how other circuits ruled on the issue. Those decisions aren't binding on the court that will be ruling in your case, but they could be [[wp:Precedent#Persuasive_precedent|persuasive]]. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 13:03, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
::It's kind of like, if you're arguing a case in a U.S. Court of Appeals, mentioning how other circuits ruled on the issue. Those decisions aren't binding on the court that will be ruling in your case, but they could be [[wp:Precedent#Persuasive precedent|persuasive]]. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 13:03, 10 September 2014 (UTC)


:Haha, that's so funny that You use the word persuasive ;-) I just thought of that in [[User_talk:Leucosticte#Deletion_requests|my reply on Your talk page]] [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 13:27, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
:Haha, that's so funny that You use the word persuasive ;-) I just thought of that in [[User talk:Leucosticte#Deletion requests|my reply on Your talk page]] [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 13:27, 10 September 2014 (UTC)


== [[WikiIndex:Abuse Filter]] ==
==[[WikiIndex:Abuse Filter]]==
 
I moved the chat to the talk page. Could You write a description/introduction on the project page? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 10:53, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
I moved the chat to the talk page.
Could You write a description/introduction on the project page? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 10:53, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
:That's okay. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 13:23, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
:That's okay. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 13:23, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


== Account creation/confirmation ==
==Account creation/confirmation==
It looks like a new account needs to be confirmed before one can log in.  How often do the admins check for new accounts and confirm them?
It looks like a new account needs to be confirmed before one can log in.  How often do the admins check for new accounts and confirm them? For new users it looks like they have to wait for the confirmation email which they have to use to activate the account. And when the confirmation email is not coming, I think many would give up or forget about it. M.
 
For new users it looks like they have to wait for the confirmation email which they have to use to activate the account.
 
and when the confirmation email is not coming, I think many would give up or forget about it. M.
:Usually when there is an email-confirmed account request, Recentchanges would have a banner like (except that the border is red)
:Usually when there is an email-confirmed account request, Recentchanges would have a banner like (except that the border is red)


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I Know there was an account creation but it did not show in RC. M.
I Know there was an account creation but it did not show in RC. M.


== [[:Category:MediaWikiSystem]] ==
==Category:MediaWikiSystem==
 
Success: https://test.orain.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar
Success:
No causalities ;-) [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 14:27, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
https://test.orain.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar
No causalities ;-)  
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 14:27, 29 September 2014 (UTC)


:Why not use [[Special:AllPages/MediaWiki:]] instead of a category?
:Why not use [[Special:AllPages/MediaWiki:]] instead of a category?
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:There're other messages interpreted as raw.  
:There're other messages interpreted as raw.  
::Means?
::Means?
:::See [[:mw:Manual:Messages_API#Output_modes_and_escaping]], for plain() and text() --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:43, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
:::See [[:mw:Manual:Messages API#Output modes and escaping]], for plain() and text() --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:43, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 
: Eg. [[MediaWiki:Toc]]. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 15:01, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
::OK, I didn't 'create' a test wiki, I used one. But I proved You wrong, dindn't I?.[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])
:::Yes, you proved me wrong in [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]], but not the others. I cannot go and tag all pages without being sure it's 100% safe. If you seriously need [[:Category:MediaWikiSystem]], I'll go and read [https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-core/blob/master/includes/Message.php Message.php] ([[:mw:Manual:Message.php|manual]]) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:43, 30 September 2014 (UTC)


=== Excerpt from: [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template?redirect=no#Noinclude.2C_includeonly.2C_and_onlyinclude Help:Template] ===
:Eg. [[MediaWiki:Toc]]. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 15:01, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
::OK, I didn't 'create' a test wiki, I used one. But I proved You wrong, dindn't I?. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])
:::Yes, you proved me wrong in [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]], but not the others. I cannot go and tag all pages without being sure it's 100% safe. If you seriously need Category:MediaWikiSystem, I'll go and read [https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-core/blob/master/includes/Message.php Message.php] ([[:mw:Manual:Message.php|manual]]) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:43, 30 September 2014 (UTC)


=== Noinclude, includeonly, and onlyinclude ===
===Excerpt from: [[meta-wiki:Help:Template#Noinclude, includeonly, and onlyinclude|Help:Template]]===


===Noinclude, includeonly, and onlyinclude===
This feature is not available before version 1.6. These features are applied as nesting pairs, or 'Blocks', as it is said they enclose the material so that they can be said to begin and end a block of wikitext (code).
This feature is not available before version 1.6. These features are applied as nesting pairs, or 'Blocks', as it is said they enclose the material so that they can be said to begin and end a block of wikitext (code).
;noinclude blocks
;noinclude blocks
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Ha, ha, very funny ;-) I wouldn't try to start another 'endless' discussion for this thing right now. --13:09, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])
Ha, ha, very funny ;-) I wouldn't try to start another 'endless' discussion for this thing right now. --13:09, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])


== [[WikiIndex:Teamwork Info]] ==
==[[WikiIndex:Teamwork Info]]==
 
This is a proposal for a new wiki community related feature.
This is a proposal for a new wiki community related feature.


I hope You like the idea and find a way to integrate this table on Your User Page.
I hope You like the idea and find a way to integrate this table on Your User Page.
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="background:#ff9900; color:#300080"
{|class="wikitable sortable" style="background:#ff9900; color:#300080"
! Online Accessibility !! E-mail !! Commitment !! Exeptions !! UTC !! Skills !! Duty !! Rank !! Propensities
!online accessibility!!e-mail!!commitment!!exeptions!!UTC!!skills!!duty!!rank!!propensities
|-
| || yes || || Week 40 || || Filter, Bot || - || Admin ||
|-
|-
| ||yes|| ||week 40|| ||filter, bot||-||admin||
|}
|}
It's first try. I'm happy if You help to improve it. Details filled in lines other than mine are of course only for demonstration. I'm curious to see how You might fill it. --[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 00:30, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


It's first try.
==Preventing account creation==
I'm happy if You help to improve it.
Details filled in lines other than mine are of course only for demonstration.
I'm curious to see how You might fill it. --[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 00:30, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 
== Preventing account creation ==
 
It there any possibility to prevent the creation of an account of a specific name like "0000000000000" without having this name in the list [[Special:ListUsers]]? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 12:39, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
It there any possibility to prevent the creation of an account of a specific name like "0000000000000" without having this name in the list [[Special:ListUsers]]? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 12:39, 16 October 2014 (UTC)


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* Created a new Category: [[:Category:AccountToBeBlocked]] [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 20:25, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
* Created a new Category: [[:Category:AccountToBeBlocked]] [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 20:25, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 
::That was [[Special:AbuseFilter/20]] and now is [[Special:ConfirmAccounts]]. However, I don't think it's necessary to block [[:Category:AccountToBeBlocked]] --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:19, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
:: That was [[Special:AbuseFilter/20]] and now is [[Special:ConfirmAccounts]]. However, I don't think it's necessary to block [[:Category:AccountToBeBlocked]] --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:19, 21 October 2014 (UTC)


:Could You delete all those accounts that match [[Special:AbuseFilter/20]]? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])
:Could You delete all those accounts that match [[Special:AbuseFilter/20]]? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])


:Do these special abuse filters replace [[mw:Extension:TitleBlacklist]] functionally? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])
:Do these special abuse filters replace [[mw:Extension:TitleBlacklist]] functionally? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])
::*Deleting accounts is not possible without direct database access.*They can replace. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 12:47, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
::*Deleting accounts is not possible without direct database access.*They can replace. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 12:47, 22 October 2014 (UTC)


* Who is they and what can they replace?
*Who is they and what can they replace?
* what can be done to get those dysfunctional accounts out of the [[Special:ListUsers]] and statistics? We got an ratio 500:1 registered to active users. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 15:18, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
*what can be done to get those dysfunctional accounts out of the [[Special:ListUsers]] and statistics? We got an ratio 500:1 registered to active users. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 15:18, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
:* Abuse filters can replace [[mw:Extension:TitleBlacklist]] functionally theoretically, but could be harder to work with.
:*Abuse filters can replace [[mw:Extension:TitleBlacklist]] functionally theoretically, but could be harder to work with.
:* [[mw:Extension:UserMerge]] (delete after merge; can't merge blocked accounts) But why would be dysfunctional accounts be a problem anyways? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 15:36, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
:*[[mw:Extension:UserMerge]] (delete after merge; can't merge blocked accounts) But why would be dysfunctional accounts be a problem anyways? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 15:36, 22 October 2014 (UTC)


* The right hideuser see: [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights#List_of_permissions] would do the trick.
*The right hideuser see: [[mw:Manual:User rights#List of permissions]] would do the trick.
* The account would still exist, but be blocked and not show up in userlist.
*The account would still exist, but be blocked and not show up in userlist.
* That would enable to turn the bulky list into something managable. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 16:20, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
*That would enable to turn the bulky list into something managable. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 16:20, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
*: Well, that one of the oversighter's rights. Could you ask for that at [[WikiIndex:Upgrades needed]]? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 02:18, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
*:Well, that one of the oversighter's rights. Could you ask for that at [[WikiIndex:Upgrades needed]]? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 02:18, 25 October 2014 (UTC)


I think no upgrade is needed, see [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:RevisionDelete#Enabling Enabeling 'hideuser'] because Extension Oversighter is integrated since 1.6 but disabled by default. What I'm not sure is, if one has to become oversighter in order to get that right, or if the bureaucrat can assign it to just any user?? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 07:17, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
I think no upgrade is needed, see [[mw:Manual:RevisionDelete#Enabling|Enabling 'hideuser']] because Extension Oversighter is integrated since 1.6 but disabled by default. What I'm not sure is, if one has to become oversighter in order to get that right, or if the bureaucrat can assign it to just any user?? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 07:17, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
: Bureaucrat can change a user's user groups, but not [[Special:ListGroupRights|user group rights]]. They are stored in LocalSettings.php, a configuration file in the backend. To change the file requires "upgrade" (a way of saying backend changes). Oversighter is a wikimedia user group that hides information, but its name doesn't have to be "oversighter". Which groups can hideuser only depends on the configuration. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 07:49, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
: Bureaucrat can change a user's user groups, but not [[Special:ListGroupRights|user group rights]]. They are stored in LocalSettings.php, a configuration file in the backend. To change the file requires "upgrade" (a way of saying backend changes). Oversighter is a wikimedia user group that hides information, but its name doesn't have to be "oversighter". Which groups can hideuser only depends on the configuration. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 07:49, 25 October 2014 (UTC)


I've installed TitleBlacklist (the bundling is only for new installations, I think).  The hideuser right lets you hide usernames on logs, but it doesn't affect the user list, as far as I know. [[User:Emufarmers|Emufarmers]] ([[User talk:Emufarmers|talk]]) 20:37, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
I've installed TitleBlacklist (the bundling is only for new installations, I think).  The hideuser right lets you hide usernames on logs, but it doesn't affect the user list, as far as I know. [[User:Emufarmers|Emufarmers]] ([[User talk:Emufarmers|talk]]) 20:37, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
:{{done}} ok is available now :-) [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 18:31, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
:{{done}} ok is available now :-) [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 18:31, 10 November 2014 (UTC)


== to be blocked ==
==to be blocked==
[[Special:Contributions/151.225.230.3]]
:block next time --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:35, 4 November 2014 (UTC)


http://wikiindex.org/Special:Contributions/151.225.230.3
What do You think, is the comment here a reason to block an IP? http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Exhilaration_Animation_Wiki&curid=43331&diff=185910&oldid=185901 [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 10:58, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
: block next time --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:35, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 
What do You think,  
is the comment here a reason to block an IP?  
http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Exhilaration_Animation_Wiki&curid=43331&diff=185910&oldid=185901
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 10:58, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
:Revision deleted --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:15, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
:Revision deleted --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:15, 21 November 2014 (UTC)


OK, what about semiprotection of pages where those kind of incidents happened? Thing is, You can not talk to that IP-editor and tell him what not to do. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 11:33, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
OK, what about semiprotection of pages where those kind of incidents happened? Thing is, You can not talk to that [[IP editor]] and tell him what not to do. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 11:33, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
:I don't see repeated vandalism. Or am I wrong? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 11:44, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
:I don't see repeated vandalism. Or am I wrong? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 11:44, 21 November 2014 (UTC)


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:Protection are for repeated cases imo. If the IP doesn't come back, no need for protection. Otherwise, that a clear indication of repeating vandalism, so a protection would be necessary. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 02:19, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
:Protection are for repeated cases imo. If the IP doesn't come back, no need for protection. Otherwise, that a clear indication of repeating vandalism, so a protection would be necessary. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 02:19, 22 November 2014 (UTC)


== [[User:MissingLink]] ==
==User:MissingLink==
 
Her account creation seems to be complete, but she did not get the confirmation mail back then, besause of our email problem. I think because of that she will not have her password. Please send her her password to the supplied email address at yahoo.co.jp. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 12:55, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Her account creation seems to be complete, but she did not get the confirmation mail back then, besause of our email problem.  
I think because of that she will not have her password.
Please send her her password to the supplied email address at yahoo.co.jp.
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 12:55, 3 November 2014 (UTC)


*Please notify me when done or problems arise. Than I can check with her if she got the mail. M.
*Please notify me when done or problems arise. Than I can check with her if she got the mail. M.
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Then, how she would get the password? Can You create a new one? By now she never got any because the confirmation mail did not arrive. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 10:52, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
Then, how she would get the password? Can You create a new one? By now she never got any because the confirmation mail did not arrive. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 10:52, 4 November 2014 (UTC)


Can You simply kill that account and she will start a fresh request?[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:39, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
Can You simply kill that account and she will start a fresh request? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:39, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
:Only 'crats maay rename users and nobody can kill an account currently. I can only create a new account with a different name. If that works for you, what should the new username be? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 07:57, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
:Only 'crats maay rename users and nobody can kill an account currently. I can only create a new account with a different name. If that works for you, what should the new username be? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 07:57, 5 November 2014 (UTC)


== [[User:Llwy-ar-lawr]] ==
==[[User:Llwy-ar-lawr]]==
 
i'd like to request a ban of said user, as she has a personal vendetta against the users of [[Uncyclopedia]] and [[Darthipedia]], as evidenced on Talk:Brony Denza. [[User:Sweetie Belle|Sweetie Belle]] ([[User talk:Sweetie Belle|talk]]) 16:37, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
i'd like to request a ban of said user, as she has a personal vendetta against the users of [[Uncyclopedia|this wiki]] and [[Darthipedia|this wiki]], as evidenced [[Talk:Brony Denza|here]]. [[User:Sweetie Belle|Sweetie Belle]] ([[User talk:Sweetie Belle|talk]]) 16:37, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
:I don't process user problems (unless they are clear cases). Please request this elsewhere. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:00, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
: I don't process user problems (unless they are clear cases). Please request this elsewhere. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:00, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
::I have no such vendetta; it is clearly the other way round. Simply attempting to improve the wiki does not constitute a vendetta, but criticising such attempts, in this case, does. [[User:Llwy-ar-lawr|Llwy-ar-lawr]] ([[User talk:Llwy-ar-lawr|talk]]) 22:58, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
::I have no such vendetta; it is clearly the other way round. Simply attempting to improve the wiki does not constitute a vendetta, but criticising such attempts, in this case, does. [[User:Llwy-ar-lawr|Llwy-ar-lawr]] ([[User talk:Llwy-ar-lawr|talk]]) 22:58, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
:::Sorry. Perhaps I should have worded my request better. I didn't mean to request a full block of Llwy-ar-lawr, but rather I wanted to request that she be barred from editing any topics pertaining to [[Uncyclopedia]] or [[Darthipedia]] on this wiki. This isn't so much a user problem (two users raising issues against each other) as it is a severe bias problem (one user raising issues against two communities on this wiki) that compromises the integrity and facts presented in the edits of myself and others. It's not my intention to bring wiki-drama or warring to WikiIndex, but to clarify what I mean: Llwy-ar-lawr is a former administrator on Uncyclopedia who has since been banned for reasons I'm not familiar with, and in recent weeks, she's taken to reverting any edits to articles relating to said wiki and inserting her own bias against the community to paint the wiki and its members in an ugly light, while simultaneously promoting her own wiki(s) in the process. Elsewhere, Llwy was apparently banned from another wiki called Darthipedia for vandalism and sockpuppeteering under the name Snarglefoop, and now she's [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Talk:Brony_Denza&oldid=185383 trying to have articles related to the topic deleted] because it's a "backwater troll wiki" in her view. When I spoke to her on IRC about this, I was told she would create one or two sockpuppet accounts on WikiIndex in the event she were to be banned, and any future edits would be reverted by her "army", and then she proceeded to spam me with an image of a mauled vagina. Regardless of whether or not you see it fit to ban her or her other accounts, what I'm requesting is that her edits be restricted to articles related to topics ''other than'' Uncyclopedia (and possibly even Darthipedia) as a means of countering these issues. Alternatively, I would also suggest protecting these articles from being edited by basic users. Having said that, I do understand that you don't typically process such requests, so if you're unable or unwilling, who would be the best administrator to get in contact with concerning this issue? Thank you in advance and sorry if this message comes as a bother. [[User:Sweetie Belle|Sweetie Belle]] ([[User talk:Sweetie Belle|talk]]) 04:11, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
:::Sorry. Perhaps I should have worded my request better. I didn't mean to request a full block of Llwy-ar-lawr, but rather I wanted to request that she be barred from editing any topics pertaining to [[Uncyclopedia]] or [[Darthipedia]] on this wiki. This isn't so much a user problem (two users raising issues against each other) as it is a severe bias problem (one user raising issues against two communities on this wiki) that compromises the integrity and facts presented in the edits of myself and others. It's not my intention to bring wiki-drama or warring to WikiIndex, but to clarify what I mean: Llwy-ar-lawr is a former administrator on Uncyclopedia who has since been banned for reasons I'm not familiar with, and in recent weeks, she's taken to reverting any edits to articles relating to said wiki and inserting her own bias against the community to paint the wiki and its members in an ugly light, while simultaneously promoting her own wiki(s) in the process. Elsewhere, Llwy was apparently banned from another wiki called Darthipedia for [[vandal]]ism and [[sockpuppet]]eering under the name Snarglefoop, and now she's [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Talk:Brony_Denza&oldid=185383 trying to have articles related to the topic deleted] because it's a "backwater troll wiki" in her view. When I spoke to her on IRC about this, I was told she would create one or two sockpuppet accounts on WikiIndex in the event she were to be banned, and any future edits would be reverted by her "army", and then she proceeded to spam me with an image of a mauled vagina. Regardless of whether or not you see it fit to ban her or her other accounts, what I'm requesting is that her edits be restricted to articles related to topics ''other than'' Uncyclopedia (and possibly even Darthipedia) as a means of countering these issues. Alternatively, I would also suggest protecting these articles from being edited by basic users. Having said that, I do understand that you don't typically process such requests, so if you're unable or unwilling, who would be the best administrator to get in contact with concerning this issue? Thank you in advance and sorry if this message comes as a bother. [[User:Sweetie Belle|Sweetie Belle]] ([[User talk:Sweetie Belle|talk]]) 04:11, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
::::Could you ask Mark? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 04:46, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
::::Could you ask Mark? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 04:46, 12 November 2014 (UTC)


== Request for [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] concerns ==
==Request for [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] concerns==
 
Hi Zhuyifei1999.  Since you are one of the most active contributors here I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to the upcoming [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] and solicit your help in making the transition a positive rather than negative experience.  Please take a moment to visit [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] and curate the list of concerns.  Thanks! -- [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 22:39, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi Zhuyifei1999.  Since you are one of the most active contributors here I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to the upcoming [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] and solicit your help in making the transition a positive rather than negative experience.  Please take a moment to visit [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] and curate the list of concerns.  Thanks! -- [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 22:39, 14 November 2014 (UTC)


== Deciding what counts as spam ==
==Deciding what counts as spam==
Please see discussion at [[WikiIndex talk:Community portal#We need to have a community discussion about Nathania.2FNathan Larson.2FUser:Leucosticte]]. There are a number of questionable recent deletions in [[Special:Logs/delete]], including [[Newgon Wiki]], [[GlWiki]], [[BoyWiki]], [[ChildWiki]], and [[ChildPorn.info]]. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 18:21, 21 November 2014 (UTC)


Please see discussion at [[WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal#We_need_to_have_a_community_discussion_about_Nathania.2FNathan_Larson.2FUser:Leucosticte]]. There are a number of questionable recent deletions in [[Special:Logs/delete]], including [[Newgon Wiki]], [[GlWiki]], [[BoyWiki]], [[ChildWiki]], and [[ChildPorn.info]]. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 18:21, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
==Less protection==
 
Would You lower the level of protection for this page or correct the mistake Sean did by freezing Nathans edit? [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#Policy pages]]. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:58, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
== Less protection ==
:The page Manorainjan refers to is not the page he linked, it is [[WikiIndex:Protected page]], [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex:Protected_page&action=history history].
 
Would You lower the level of protection for this page or correct the mistake Sean did by freezing Nathans edit?
http://wikiindex.org/Category_talk:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki#Policy_pages
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:58, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
:The page Manorainjan refers to is not the page he linked, it is [[WikiIndex:Protected_page]], [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex:Protected_page&action=history history].


:That sequence was unfortunate. Hoof Hearted has not edited WikiIndex since then (September 22). Manorainjan is a difficult user, and my sense is that Hoof Hearted's fuses blew. Difficult users push the edges of administrators, and it is too much for some. I'd hope HH comes back. Maybe those who know him can encourage that. Everyone makes mistakes, and especially admins can make mistakes dealing with difficult users. That's why we need community. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 22:40, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
:That sequence was unfortunate. Hoof Hearted has not edited WikiIndex since then (September 22). Manorainjan is a difficult user, and my sense is that Hoof Hearted's fuses blew. Difficult users push the edges of administrators, and it is too much for some. I'd hope HH comes back. Maybe those who know him can encourage that. Everyone makes mistakes, and especially admins can make mistakes dealing with difficult users. That's why we need community. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 22:40, 3 December 2014 (UTC)


I intentionally linked to the chapter about that page for showing the story first.[[Special:Contributions/178.11.224.164|178.11.224.164]] 07:29, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
I intentionally linked to the chapter about that page for showing the story first. [[Special:Contributions/178.11.224.164|178.11.224.164]] 07:29, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
: think it makes sense to have that page semi-protected --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 07:23, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
:think it makes sense to have that page semi-protected --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 07:23, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
 
== [[AddYourOwn]] ==


This wiki is down and archived.
==[[AddYourOwn]]==
Im unable to add the proper url on account of triggering the spam filter. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 15:17, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
This wiki is down and archived. Im unable to add the proper url on account of triggering the spam filter. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 15:17, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
:Should be fixed --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:13, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
:Should be fixed --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:13, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
::You whitelisted. However, I could not find the active blacklist entry. The WikiIndex blacklist was adopted from the Wikipedia blacklist, which can be ragged. The global blacklist likewise; it is, however, more thorough, and items are generally removed from the Wikipedia list when they are globally blacklisted. We have a very short local blacklist on en.wikiversity. Ideally, the message users receive when they attempt to add a blacklisted entry should explain clearly what to do if one has a legitimate purpose. Mostly, it's arcane and obscure, I've studied what happens with a major web site that was blacklisted. Most users just give up. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 15:25, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
::You whitelisted. However, I could not find the active blacklist entry. The WikiIndex blacklist was adopted from the Wikipedia blacklist, which can be ragged. The global blacklist likewise; it is, however, more thorough, and items are generally removed from the Wikipedia list when they are globally blacklisted. We have a very short local blacklist on en.wikiversity. Ideally, the message users receive when they attempt to add a blacklisted entry should explain clearly what to do if one has a legitimate purpose. Mostly, it's arcane and obscure, I've studied what happens with a major web site that was blacklisted. Most users just give up. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 15:25, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
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:::Can't find the source with python --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 11:23, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
:::Can't find the source with python --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 11:23, 5 January 2015 (UTC)


== Engine Wikia to be set by script? ==
==Engine Wikia to be set by script?==
 
see -> [[User talk:LeucosticteBot/ChangeWikiaEngine.php]]
see -> [[User_talk:LeucosticteBot/ChangeWikiaEngine.php]]
 
== Weigh in on [[WikiIndex:ServerName#Poll]]? ==


==Weigh in on [[WikiIndex:ServerName#Poll]]?==
I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to a potential [[WikiIndex:ServerName|decision to change the domain of this wiki]].  I hope you'll weigh in with your opinion.  Thanks! [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 20:08, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to a potential [[WikiIndex:ServerName|decision to change the domain of this wiki]].  I hope you'll weigh in with your opinion.  Thanks! [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 20:08, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


== autoblock? ==
==autoblock?==
Please review this: [[WikiIndex:Blocking and banning policy#Autoblock]]. Is it consistent with our local functionality? Maybe You can extend it by some hints on how to use or better not use it. [[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 04:30, 6 June 2015 (PDT)
:AFAIK all MediaWiki systems has the same kind of autoblock (automatic block of an [[IP address]]). And as for when to use it, use common sense when no such policy exist. I don't like policy-ize every single parameter to an action. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 05:34, 6 June 2015 (PDT)


Please review this: [[WikiIndex:Blocking_and_banning_policy#Autoblock]].
I wasn't trying to create policy. I saw Your changing of the block another admin executed. The term autoblock was unknown to me and not mentioned in our help section. Therefore I was simply trying to clarify what it means and how it works. If I would be inclined to add policy, this would have to be the next logical step anyway. One should not even try to blow up policy without proper understanding of the matter concerned. On the other hand, Your remark in the [[edit summary]] suggested to me that You are trying to establish policy:
Is it consistent with our local functionality?
Maybe You can extend it by some hints on how to use or better not use it.
[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 04:30, 6 June 2015 (PDT)
:AFAIK all MediaWiki systems has the same kind of autoblock (automatic block of an IP address). And as for when to use it, use common sense when no such policy exist. I don't like policy-ize every single parameter to an action. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 05:34, 6 June 2015 (PDT)
 
I wasn't trying to create policy.
I saw Your changing of the block another admin executed.
The term autoblock was unknown to me and not mentioned in our help section.
Therefore I was simply trying to clarify what it means and how it works.
If I would be inclined to add policy, this would have to be the next logical step anyway.
One should not even try to blow up policy without proper understanding of the matter concerned.
On the other hand, Your remark in the edit summary suggested to me that You are trying to establish policy:
"turn[ed] off autoblock -- I don't see the reason to prevent the user (not the hacker) from editing"
"turn[ed] off autoblock -- I don't see the reason to prevent the user (not the hacker) from editing"
Whereas I would not know how to safely distinguish between hacker and user.
Whereas I would not know how to safely distinguish between hacker and user.
'''Regarding common sense''', I regard that expression as a misnomer, because those sense is not at all common. ;-)
'''Regarding common sense''', I regard that expression as a misnomer, because those sense is not at all common. ;-) [[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 06:20, 6 June 2015 (PDT)
[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 06:20, 6 June 2015 (PDT)
:I'm not sure what's happening here. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:55, 6 June 2015 (PDT)
:I'm not sure what's happening here. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:55, 6 June 2015 (PDT)


== The hacker does not exist ==
==The hacker does not exist==
[[User:HAL-9000]] is a global vandal. There is no hacker. You can see that he is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/SuperWindows locked on Wikimedia], [https://www.thetestwiki.org/wiki/User:Windowseditor90 blocked on The Test Wiki]... do not let him another chance. [[Special:Contributions/79.41.169.216|79.41.169.216]]  
[[User:HAL-9000]] is a global [[vandal]]. There is no hacker. You can see that he is [[wp:Special:CentralAuth/SuperWindows|locked on Wikimedia]], [https://www.thetestwiki.org/wiki/User:Windowseditor90 blocked on The Test Wiki]... do not let him another chance. [[Special:Contributions/79.41.169.216|79.41.169.216]]  
 
:How do You know, that SuperWindows and WindowsEditor90 are used by the same person? [[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 07:56, 6 June 2015 (PDT)
:How do You know, that SuperWindows and WindowsEditor90 are used by the same person?
::I can confirm, as I am the owner of both accounts. [[Special:Contributions/79.41.169.216|79.41.169.216]] 08:34, 6 June 2015 (PDT)
[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 07:56, 6 June 2015 (PDT)
 
:: I can confirm, as I am the owner of both accounts. [[Special:Contributions/79.41.169.216|79.41.169.216]] 08:34, 6 June 2015 (PDT)
 
== Weird magic words and redlinks ==


==Weird magic words and redlinks==
'''See [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Welcome&diff=0&oldid=190081 here]''' For some reason, ''sometimes'' the [[Main Page]] renders "Welcome, <nowiki>{{CURRENTUSER}}</nowiki>" (with CURRENTUSER in red) and sometimes not. Both with your preferred edit and the one I made. Both logged in and not. So weird. Plus, several links on the front page are mysteriously red even though they definitely lead to pages. Anyway, I don't think that your edit was a problem, as it happened after I reverted as well. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 19:43, 21 June 2015 (PDT)
'''See [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Welcome&diff=0&oldid=190081 here]''' For some reason, ''sometimes'' the [[Main Page]] renders "Welcome, <nowiki>{{CURRENTUSER}}</nowiki>" (with CURRENTUSER in red) and sometimes not. Both with your preferred edit and the one I made. Both logged in and not. So weird. Plus, several links on the front page are mysteriously red even though they definitely lead to pages. Anyway, I don't think that your edit was a problem, as it happened after I reverted as well. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 19:43, 21 June 2015 (PDT)
:I have no idea what is going on with those magic words, as I don't have access to the backend. Besides, the <nowiki>{{CURRENTUSER}}</nowiki> in red link happens to me, but rarely, so it's hard for me to do some debugs and find the error. Maybe [[User:Jason|Jason]], [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] and [[Ray King]] know? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 19:57, 21 June 2015 (PDT)
:I have no idea what is going on with those magic words, as I don't have access to the backend. Besides, the <nowiki>{{CURRENTUSER}}</nowiki> in red link happens to me, but rarely, so it's hard for me to do some debugs and find the error. Maybe [[User:Jason|Jason]], [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] and [[Ray King]] know? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 19:57, 21 June 2015 (PDT)
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:::I can only say that main page problem is something related to parser cache. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 21:23, 21 June 2015 (PDT)
:::I can only say that main page problem is something related to parser cache. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 21:23, 21 June 2015 (PDT)


== Knodorn ==
==Knodorn==
 
What was the problem? --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 13:24, 8 January 2016 (PST)
What was the problem?--[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 13:24, 8 January 2016 (PST)
:'''Spam''' Manorainjan, you probably meant to talk to me: the user submitted a request which had some copy that could either be written by a non-native English speaker or someone else with a shaky grasp of written English ''or'' a spambot. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 20:14, 8 January 2016 (PST)
:'''Spam''' Manorainjan, you probably meant to talk to me: the user submitted a request which had some copy that could either be written by a non-native English speaker or someone else with a shaky grasp of written English ''or'' a spambot. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 20:14, 8 January 2016 (PST)
::What I see is, the page is entirely unrelated to wikis, and may be a self-promo userpage. The user can show he's contributing to WikiIndex by adding, or updating some wiki entries here. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 21:12, 8 January 2016 (PST)
::What I see is, the page is entirely unrelated to wikis, and may be a self-promo userpage. The user can show he's contributing to WikiIndex by adding, or updating some wiki entries here. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 21:12, 8 January 2016 (PST)
 
:::I found his [[user page]] quite bragging, but do not see any reason for deletion in this. For some people the request to submit info about one self during registration might have this effect, they might simply copy CV-like stuff they are using elsewhere. Is bragging about ones achievements on ones user page a violation against wikiIndex rules? --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 23:48, 8 January 2016 (PST)
:::I found his user page quite bragging, but do not see any reason for deletion in this. For some people the request to submit info about one self during registration might have this effect, they might simply copy CV-like stuff they are using elsewhere. Is bragging about ones achievements on ones user page a violation against wikiIndex rules? --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 23:48, 8 January 2016 (PST)


The account request form reads: "Your biography will be set as the initial content for your userpage. Make sure you are comfortable publishing such information. Try to include any relevant credentials in your biography below. Personal biography (plain text only):"
The account request form reads: "Your biography will be set as the initial content for your userpage. Make sure you are comfortable publishing such information. Try to include any relevant credentials in your biography below. Personal biography (plain text only):"


:Obviously that person was very "comfortable to publish" this information ;-) But basically I think, he did as requested. [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 00:01, 9 January 2016 (PST)
:Obviously that person was very "comfortable to publish" this information ;-) But basically I think, he did as requested. [[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 00:01, 9 January 2016 (PST)
 
== WikiIndex:Spam Reports ==


[[WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal#WikiIndex:Spam_Reports]]
==WikiIndex:Spam Reports==
[[WikiIndex talk:Community portal#WikiIndex:Spam Reports]]