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==Result: WikiIndex.org (keep the current)== | |||
== Result: WikiIndex.org (keep the current) == | |||
The sentiments of the active community are pretty clear (see below). This site will remain at WikiIndex.org indefinitely. | The sentiments of the active community are pretty clear (see below). This site will remain at WikiIndex.org indefinitely. | ||
== Process Archive == | ==Process Archive== | ||
=== Are we going to change our domain name from WikiIndex.org? === | ===Are we going to change our domain name from WikiIndex.org?=== | ||
Maybe, maybe not. This page is to discuss the options and grow a community consensus. | Maybe, maybe not. This page is to discuss the options and grow a community consensus. | ||
=== When would the change occur if we decide to make a change? === | ===When would the change occur if we decide to make a change?=== | ||
Now that the [[WikiIndex:ServerMove]] is complete, we'd change the name once a community consensus on the name has been developed. | Now that the [[WikiIndex:ServerMove]] is complete, we'd change the name once a community consensus on the name has been developed. | ||
=== Can we move to Index.Wiki or another domain name? === | ===Can we move to Index.Wiki or another domain name?=== | ||
Yes. Index.Wiki is reserved by Top Level Design (the .wiki registry) and is available for use by this community if desired. | Yes. Index.Wiki is reserved by Top Level Design (the .wiki registry) and is available for use by this community if desired. | ||
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'''wikiindex.wiki''', see discussion page! [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 18:51, 13 March 2015 (UTC) | '''wikiindex.wiki''', see discussion page! [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 18:51, 13 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
=== If we move to another domain name, would the old domain be kept and forwarded? === | ===If we move to another domain name, would the old domain be kept and forwarded?=== | ||
I'll let [[BrandonCsSanders|Brandon]] answer in more detail, but I assume that a requisite for changing domains would be [[wp:HTTP 301| 301 redirecting each page]] of the old site to the corresponding new site so that no search engine love is lost [[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> | I'll let [[BrandonCsSanders|Brandon]] answer in more detail, but I assume that a requisite for changing domains would be [[wp:HTTP 301| 301 redirecting each page]] of the old site to the corresponding new site so that no search engine love is lost [[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> | ||
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:::: All existing links on WikiIndex.org will 301 redirect to their counterparts on Index.Wiki. [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 18:46, 13 March 2015 (UTC) | :::: All existing links on WikiIndex.org will 301 redirect to their counterparts on Index.Wiki. [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 18:46, 13 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
===Discussion moved from concerns section of [[WikiIndex:ServerMove]]=== | |||
* '''New Name, new Logo''' I expect with a certainty of >95% that the new name will be '*.wiki'. Who will host it? [https://create.wiki/ create.wiki]! What do You see on the frontpage? Exclusively "<some name>.wiki". Will our name have to appear there? You bet! Will it be the only *.org there? That would break the design! So, let the new name be index.wiki or wikiindex.wiki or whatever.wiki, There would have to be a new logo anyway. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) | * '''New Name, new Logo''' I expect with a certainty of >95% that the new name will be '*.wiki'. Who will host it? [https://create.wiki/ create.wiki]! What do You see on the frontpage? Exclusively "<some name>.wiki". Will our name have to appear there? You bet! Will it be the only *.org there? That would break the design! So, let the new name be index.wiki or wikiindex.wiki or whatever.wiki, There would have to be a new logo anyway. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) | ||
* I suggest to preserve '''wikiindex.org''' - this domain (and name) is absolutely reasonable. At least better than ''something.wiki'' --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 09:38, 17 November 2014 (UTC) | * I suggest to preserve '''wikiindex.org''' - this domain (and name) is absolutely reasonable. At least better than ''something.wiki'' --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 09:38, 17 November 2014 (UTC) | ||
== Poll == | ==Poll== | ||
Let's take the temperature ... perhaps we already all agree? If not we can discuss our concerns. We know we've got consensus if we can get at least 90% of at least 10 WikiIndex people to agree on staying or moving. | Let's take the temperature ... perhaps we already all agree? If not we can discuss our concerns. We know we've got consensus if we can get at least 90% of at least 10 WikiIndex people to agree on staying or moving. | ||
; A) Move to http://Index.Wiki | ;A) Move to http://Index.Wiki | ||
* I think simple and ideal [[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> | *I think simple and ideal [[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> | ||
* I'm biased, but I think a .wiki domain is ideal. WikiIndex.wiki was suggested [[WikiIndex talk: | *I'm biased, but I think a .wiki domain is ideal. WikiIndex.wiki was suggested [[WikiIndex talk:Proposal: domain name change]]. I am not necessarily opposed to this name, but I do think Index.wiki is simpler and therefore easier to write out and remember. Also, "org" implies "organization" and "wiki" implies a collaborative community. -[[User:Jason|Jason]] ([[User talk:Jason|talk]]) 20:25, 13 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
* I'd rather we stay at the current domain but in the next 5 years or so, .com/.net/.org domains will become obsolete for wikis so its best that we stay ahead of time and move to the new domain :) ..--[[User:Comets|Comets]] ([[User talk:Comets|talk]]) 01:34, 19 March 2015 (UTC) | *I'd rather we stay at the current domain but in the next 5 years or so, .com/.net/.org domains will become obsolete for wikis so its best that we stay ahead of time and move to the new domain :) ..--[[User:Comets|Comets]] ([[User talk:Comets|talk]]) 01:34, 19 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
* I gave my rationale at [[ | ;B) Move to http://WikiIndex.Wiki | ||
* I like this name, it sounds somewhat authoritative and overarching, as well as not being too distinct from wikiindex.org --[[User:Spud Gun | <b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[ | *I gave my rationale at [[WikiIndex talk:ServerName#WikiIndex.wiki]] [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 22:02, 13 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
*I like this name, it sounds somewhat authoritative and overarching, as well as not being too distinct from wikiindex.org --[[User:Spud Gun|<b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User talk:Spud Gun|talk]]) 16:21, 24 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
; C) Stay at http://WikiIndex.org | ;C) Stay at http://WikiIndex.org | ||
* I'm rather fond of the current name. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 20:18, 13 March 2015 (UTC) | *I'm rather fond of the current name. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 20:18, 13 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
* Given the choice I would agree - am ok if community wants to move. ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | *Given the choice I would agree - am ok if community wants to move. ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | ||
* It's cute and all, but I'm in the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" camp. [[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] ([[User talk:MarvelZuvembie|talk]]) 21:55, 13 March 2015 (UTC) | *It's cute and all, but I'm in the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" camp. [[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] ([[User talk:MarvelZuvembie|talk]]) 21:55, 13 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
* Index.Wiki would suggest that we're a wiki of indexes, rather than an index of wikis. WikiIndex.Wiki is okay but it doesn't seem to yet be an expectation in the wikisphere that wikis use .Wiki so I don't see a compelling reason to switch. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 23:29, 13 March 2015 (UTC) | *Index.Wiki would suggest that we're a wiki of indexes, rather than an index of wikis. WikiIndex.Wiki is okay but it doesn't seem to yet be an expectation in the wikisphere that wikis use .Wiki so I don't see a compelling reason to switch. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 23:29, 13 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
* Keep the name. Moving creates disruption in many places, and for years. If someone likes index.wiki, let them reserve it and redirect it here. Stats will then show what is attracting traffic, so ''maybe'' later it could be moved, but I doubt we will want it. Index.wiki might be ''slightly'' easier to remember, but L. is right, the implication is confusing. Wikindex is a wiki about wikis, and specifically an index of them, so if the wiki TLD were to be used, it would better be wikiindex.wiki. ".org" works just fine. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 00:37, 14 March 2015 (UTC) | *Keep the name. Moving creates disruption in many places, and for years. If someone likes index.wiki, let them reserve it and redirect it here. Stats will then show what is attracting traffic, so ''maybe'' later it could be moved, but I doubt we will want it. Index.wiki might be ''slightly'' easier to remember, but L. is right, the implication is confusing. Wikindex is a wiki about wikis, and specifically an index of them, so if the wiki TLD were to be used, it would better be wikiindex.wiki. ".org" works just fine. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 00:37, 14 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
* Stay here. Really the move as I see it does nothing to add to the site. If it is a question of having other TLDs, then why not just redirect to the main one? [[User:TeraS|TeraS]] ([[User talk:TeraS|talk]]) | *Stay here. Really the move as I see it does nothing to add to the site. If it is a question of having other TLDs, then why not just redirect to the main one? [[User:TeraS|TeraS]] ([[User talk:TeraS|talk]]) | ||
* This is probably wise if for no other reason than about a decade of incoming links. There must be a way to use HTTP to redirect one domain to the other. '''If''' we can assure that all incoming links will work '''and''' that our SEO rankings and search indexing, etc. will work properly, then please do move it to index.wiki. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 22:50, 14 March 2015 (UTC) | *This is probably wise if for no other reason than about a decade of incoming links. There must be a way to use HTTP to redirect one domain to the other. '''If''' we can assure that all incoming links will work '''and''' that our SEO rankings and search indexing, etc. will work properly, then please do move it to index.wiki. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 22:50, 14 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
* per above --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:03, 15 March 2015 (UTC) | *per above --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:03, 15 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
* WikiIndex is the best name for a (the!) wiki index, so what domain could fit better than the current one? --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 09:16, 16 March 2015 (UTC) | *WikiIndex is the best name for a (the!) wiki index, so what domain could fit better than the current one? --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 09:16, 16 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
* [[ | *[[User talk:Kghbln#Request for ServerMove concerns|My thoughts on this]] --[[User:Kghbln|[[kgh]]]] ([[User talk:Kghbln|talk]]) 20:55, 16 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
* WikiIndex.org is a well-established brand, I see no reason to change that. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 19:55, 8 April 2015 (UTC) | *WikiIndex.org is a well-established brand, I see no reason to change that. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 19:55, 8 April 2015 (UTC) | ||
; D) Move to http://Switch.Wiki | ;D) Move to http://Switch.Wiki | ||
* This harkens back to the original idea I had for a wiki of wiki ... and would support a move to this name. [[MarkDilley]] | *This harkens back to the original idea I had for a wiki of wiki ... and would support a move to this name. [[MarkDilley]] | ||
; X) I care but I'm not sure which yet (count me as no for all of them) | ;X) I care but I'm not sure which yet (count me as no for all of them) | ||
* [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 19:46, 13 March 2015 (UTC) | *[[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 19:46, 13 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
* [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 05:05, 14 March 2015 (UTC) | *[[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 05:05, 14 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
; Y) I don't care (count me as yes for any of them) | ;Y) I don't care (count me as yes for any of them) | ||
*[[User:Sweetie Belle|Sweetie Belle]] ([[User talk:Sweetie Belle|talk]]) 17:29, 9 June 2015 (PDT) | *[[User:Sweetie Belle|Sweetie Belle]] ([[User talk:Sweetie Belle|talk]]) 17:29, 9 June 2015 (PDT) | ||
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