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==future wiki-nodes==
==future wiki-nodes==
Hello John,  I am toying with the mark-up for wikinodes that are not there and TedErnst asked me a good question.  Can we currently sort on a no for URL wikinode?  Meaning if we do what I am thinking about (e.g. [[The league of scarybirds]] with the - WikiNode) does that damage being able to find those? Best, [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>
Hello John,  I am toying with the mark-up for wikinodes that are not there and TedErnst asked me a good question.  Can we currently sort on a no for URL wikinode?  Meaning if we do what I am thinking about (e.g. [[The league of scarybirds]] with the - [[WikiNode]]) does that damage being able to find those? Best, [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>


==More potential==
==More potential==
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Hi John, please see this conversation: [[WikiIndex talk:Community talk#Sitemap]]. Best [[MarkDilley]]
Hi John, please see this conversation: [[WikiIndex talk:Community talk#Sitemap]]. Best [[MarkDilley]]


==[[MediaWiki talk:MyNavMenu]]==
==MediaWiki talk:MyNavMenu==
Mind taking a minute to look in there? &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 16:51, 29 September 2006 (EDT)
Mind taking a minute to look in there? &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 16:51, 29 September 2006 (EDT)


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==thumbnail problem==
==thumbnail problem==
this picture [[:File:Ruangchotvit_ChinarutPicture.jpg]] [[File:Ruangchotvit_ChinarutPicture.jpg|48px]] is black when shown in any category, it seems it cannot be scaled? --[[User:Peu|Peu]] 08:10, 22 October 2006 (EDT)
this picture [[:File:Ruangchotvit ChinarutPicture.jpg]] [[File:Ruangchotvit ChinarutPicture.jpg|48px]] is black when shown in any category, it seems it cannot be scaled? --[[User:Peu|Peu]] 08:10, 22 October 2006 (EDT)
:Something wrong with the picture, I downloaded the original and converted it to a .png format [[:File:Ruangchotvit ChinarutPicture.png]] and uploaded it and it works better but still not right [[File:Ruangchotvit ChinarutPicture.png|100px]] [[User:John Stanton|John]] 12:46, 22 October 2006 (EDT)
:Something wrong with the picture, I downloaded the original and converted it to a .png format [[:File:Ruangchotvit ChinarutPicture.png]] and uploaded it and it works better but still not right [[File:Ruangchotvit ChinarutPicture.png|100px]] [[User:John Stanton|John]] 12:46, 22 October 2006 (EDT)


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==Extensions to install==
==Extensions to install==
Since Peu wanted to allow the logos of wikis to link to the sites I thought I'd do that because I already know the only ways images can be made into links on media wiki.
Since {{U|Peu}} wanted to allow the [[:Category:WikiLogo|logos]] of wikis to link to the sites I thought I'd do that because I already know the only ways images can be made into links on media wiki.


Firstly, I don't know if it will work in the template but [[Meta-Wiki:LinkedImage|this extension]] may let people create linked images at will if you want it.
Firstly, I don't know if it will work in the template but [[Meta-Wiki:LinkedImage|this extension]] may let people create linked images at will if you want it.
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:This file seems to be missing the ending PHP tag and may be missing more than that, can you complete the listing??? Many thanks. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 20:19, 29 October 2006 (EST)
:This file seems to be missing the ending PHP tag and may be missing more than that, can you complete the listing??? Many thanks. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 20:19, 29 October 2006 (EST)
::Sorry about that, I must have slipped when I copied it from my local installation. But that's all the code there is, the code works fine. I just don't have uploads on my testing because it's a local installation on my XP Home computer meaning I can't work permissions. But I did some alternative testing to it. My guess from looking at other wikis and the MediaWiki code is that MediaWiki capitalizes the first letter of every file it uploads automaticly. So I have the ucfirst function there. From everything I've tested this should work fine. The worst that could happen is that I miscalculated something on how the system works, and some of the Places where <nowiki>{{fullimage:Something.png}}</nowiki> is used create incorrect urls that I'll half to find a way to fix. But for all purposes it should work now. wfImageDir is a system function that I used to grab the directory, so that should compensate for any mistake other than how files are capitalized. I added the end tag just for reassurance. [[User talk:Dantman|Dantman]] 04:07, 30 October 2006 (EST)
::Sorry about that, I must have slipped when I copied it from my local installation. But that's all the code there is, the code works fine. I just don't have uploads on my testing because it's a local installation on my XP Home computer meaning I can't work permissions. But I did some alternative testing to it. My guess from looking at other wikis and the MediaWiki code is that MediaWiki capitalizes the first letter of every file it uploads automaticly. So I have the ucfirst function there. From everything I've tested this should work fine. The worst that could happen is that I miscalculated something on how the system works, and some of the Places where <nowiki>{{fullimage:Something.png}}</nowiki> is used create incorrect urls that I'll half to find a way to fix. But for all purposes it should work now. wfImageDir is a system function that I used to grab the directory, so that should compensate for any mistake other than how files are capitalized. I added the end tag just for reassurance. [[User talk:Dantman|Dantman]] 04:07, 30 October 2006 (EST)
:I loaded the extension using <pre>include($IP."/extensions/FullLocalImage.php");</pre> per your instructions (other options would be "Require" or "Require_Once") and it did not cause the wiki to fail :-) so I assume it is functional. Please check it out and let me know if it is functional. I would appreciate it if you would start a page called "[[FullLocalImage Extension]]" and document the uses, syntax and source code for the extension. Many thanks! [[User:John Stanton|John]] 11:41, 31 October 2006 (EST)
:I loaded the extension using <pre>include($IP."/extensions/FullLocalImage.php");</pre> per your instructions (other options would be "Require" or "Require_Once") and it did not cause the wiki to fail :-) so I assume it is functional. Please check it out and let me know if it is functional. I would appreciate it if you would start a page called "[[WikiIndex:Full Local Image extension|FullLocalImage Extension]]" and document the uses, syntax and source code for the extension. Many thanks! [[User:John Stanton|John]] 11:41, 31 October 2006 (EST)
::I looked. Unofortunatly it trys to work. But it's using a filepath instead of a urlpath (A server may use /home/~user/www/public_html/ as the filepath of it's server, and the local urlpath to that would just be /) So the links aren't working right. I'll try to find out what I can do to fix that. I added the full information on [[Meta-Wiki:User:Dantman/Full Local Image Extension|Meta]], and just created that page you wanted with information leading to there. I put a slightly different version on meta, the only difference is I added the 'url' element to the information array so when you go to [[Special:Version]] if you change to the one on meta right now, it still won't work, but the url there will lead back to that page for information. [[User talk:Dantman|Dantman]] 20:06, 31 October 2006 (EST)
::I looked. Unofortunatly it trys to work. But it's using a filepath instead of a urlpath (A server may use /home/~user/www/public_html/ as the filepath of it's server, and the local urlpath to that would just be /) So the links aren't working right. I'll try to find out what I can do to fix that. I added the full information on [[Meta-Wiki:User:Dantman/Full Local Image Extension|Meta]], and just created that page you wanted with information leading to there. I put a slightly different version on meta, the only difference is I added the 'url' element to the information array so when you go to [[Special:Version]] if you change to the one on meta right now, it still won't work, but the url there will lead back to that page for information. [[User talk:Dantman|Dantman]] 20:06, 31 October 2006 (EST)
:::Ok, I updated the code at [[Meta-Wiki:User:Dantman/Full Local Image Extension|Meta]]. There are no errors so it still won't break the site. The URL element is in so that people can reach the documentation either by the article you requested or by using the link given on [[Special:Version]]. This Time I think I found the correct methods for it from the documentation. It uses predefined methods so it should work. [[User talk:Dantman|Dantman]] 20:37, 31 October 2006 (EST)
:::Ok, I updated the code at [[Meta-Wiki:User:Dantman/Full Local Image Extension|Meta]]. There are no errors so it still won't break the site. The URL element is in so that people can reach the documentation either by the article you requested or by using the link given on [[Special:Version]]. This Time I think I found the correct methods for it from the documentation. It uses predefined methods so it should work. [[User talk:Dantman|Dantman]] 20:37, 31 October 2006 (EST)
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==Google Ads Monobook==
==Google Ads Monobook==
I see the info for adding Google AdSense by editing the Monobook.php.  Is this what you are doing here? Also the info here: [[Meta-Wiki:Google Ads Monobook]] says it is for version 1.5.6 . Just wondering if this is what you are using, will it work, or where else I should look for info. I am using version:
I see the info for adding [[:Category:GoogleAds|Google AdSense]] by editing the Monobook.php.  Is this what you are doing here? Also the info here: [[Meta-Wiki:Google Ads Monobook]] says it is for version 1.5.6 . Just wondering if this is what you are using, will it work, or where else I should look for info. I am using version:


MediaWiki: 1.8.2  
MediaWiki: 1.8.2  
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==PrettyURL problem==
==PrettyURL problem==
Sorry to be a pest about this, but I feel the need to emphasize that at the moment this little tech glitch is a quite serious PR issue: The top google link for WikiIndex is broken by this, and gives the naive user the impression that the site is down!  Can we at least make the 404 Not Found error auto redirect to a working homepage, or even just change the contents of it to include a working link to the homepage?--[[User:69.87.199.67|69.87.199.67]] 06:55, 15 February 2007 (PST)
Sorry to be a pest about this, but I feel the need to emphasize that at the moment this little tech glitch is a quite serious PR issue: The top google link for WikiIndex is broken by this, and gives the naive user the impression that the site is down!  Can we at least make the 404 Not Found error auto redirect to a working homepage, or even just change the contents of it to include a working link to the homepage?--[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.67|69.87.199.67]] 06:55, 15 February 2007 (PST)
:I agree with you totally but I have been unable to find a solution to the problem if you have one I would love to hear about it! You can see the problem on a new test wiki I have set up at [http://www.myrailsweb.com myrailsweb.com]. Glad for any help anyone can provide. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 08:12, 15 February 2007 (PST)
:I agree with you totally but I have been unable to find a solution to the problem if you have one I would love to hear about it! You can see the problem on a new test wiki I have set up at [http://www.myrailsweb.com myrailsweb.com]. Glad for any help anyone can provide. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 08:12, 15 February 2007 (PST)
:I did put up a page for the 404 errors [[User:John Stanton|John]] 10:56, 15 February 2007 (PST)
:I did put up a page for the 404 errors [[User:John Stanton|John]] 10:56, 15 February 2007 (PST)
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</pre>
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It works!  Sounds like you aren't so happy with this solution, but it seems to do the job for now -- Thanks!!--[[User:69.87.194.16|69.87.194.16]] 06:00, 16 February 2007 (PST)
It works!  Sounds like you aren't so happy with this solution, but it seems to do the job for now -- Thanks!!--[[Special:Contributions/69.87.194.16|69.87.194.16]] 06:00, 16 February 2007 (PST)
:Oops -- suddenly it is back to Not Working!--[[User:69.87.204.76|69.87.204.76]] 17:27, 23 February 2007 (PST)
:Oops -- suddenly it is back to Not Working!--[[Special:Contributions/69.87.204.76|69.87.204.76]] 17:27, 23 February 2007 (PST)
::We had a system outage that forced us to completely rebuild WikiIndex, see [[Community portal]]. I check to see what went wrong with the script. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 19:37, 23 February 2007 (PST)
::We had a system outage that forced us to completely rebuild WikiIndex, see [[Community portal]]. I check to see what went wrong with the script. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 19:37, 23 February 2007 (PST)
::Should be working now, thanks for alerting me! [[User:John Stanton|John]] 19:53, 23 February 2007 (PST)
::Should be working now, thanks for alerting me! [[User:John Stanton|John]] 19:53, 23 February 2007 (PST)
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==talk page now unprotected==
==talk page now unprotected==
Just letting you know.  Also, when we protect it again in case of spam, let's remember to put a notice at the top that says a person has to log in to edit it.  [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 15:58, 14 February 2007 (PST)
Just letting you know.  Also, when we protect it again in case of [[spam]], let's remember to put a notice at the top that says a person has to log in to edit it.  [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 15:58, 14 February 2007 (PST)


==Dynamic Page List==
==Dynamic Page List==
The WikiIndex website is using a rather outdated version of a MediaWiki extension named DynamicPageList(DPL). There is a new version with plenty of improved functionality available. Perhaps you may want to have [http://semeb.com/dpldemo a look?] --Algorithmix [[User:217.111.20.10|217.111.20.10]] 08:22, 20 February 2007 (PST)
The WikiIndex website is using a rather outdated version of a MediaWiki extension named DynamicPageList(DPL). There is a new version with plenty of improved functionality available. Perhaps you may want to have [http://semeb.com/dpldemo a look?] --Algorithmix [[Special:Contributions/217.111.20.10|217.111.20.10]] 08:22, 20 February 2007 (PST)


=="There are 200 articles in this category."==
=="There are 200 articles in this category."==
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==Block IP==
==Block IP==
Hi there John, as you seem to be a Sysop, it is probably worth blocking the IP 83.149.19.6 for spam infractions.  --[[User:Spud Gun | <b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] 10:25, 30 August 2007 (EDT)
Hi there John, as you seem to be a [[Sysop]], it is probably worth blocking the IP 83.149.19.6 for [[spam]] infractions.  --[[User:Spud Gun | <b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] 10:25, 30 August 2007 (EDT)
:Thanks Karl, [[User:Peu|Peu]] got him, it's not normally too useful to block IPs because they switch them so easily but we have just implemented a Captcha to slow them down a bit :-) [[User:John Stanton|John]] 14:24, 1 September 2007 (EDT)
:Thanks Karl, [[User:Peu|Peu]] got him, it's not normally too useful to block IPs because they switch them so easily but we have just implemented a Captcha to slow them down a bit :-) [[User:John Stanton|John]] 14:24, 1 September 2007 (EDT)


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==The Conservapedia RationalWiki war==
==The Conservapedia RationalWiki war==
There has been discussion about removing a great deal of criticism from the [[Conservapedia]] article.  See [[Talk:Conservapedia#Lengthy criticisms|Lengthy criticisms]].  A great deal of material was removed. Then there was a problem because the [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&oldid=59658#Rationalwiki_today RationalWiki] article linked to criticism that no longer existed. I therefore put the criticism of Conservapedia into a new article, [[The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]] and linked it to both the Conservapedia and [[RationalWiki]] articles. If that's still not acceptable I can probably get Rationalwiki to host it and put it into an external link. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:25, 15 November 2008 (EST)
There has been discussion about removing a great deal of criticism from the [[Conservapedia]] article.  See [[Talk:Conservapedia#Lengthy criticisms|Lengthy criticisms]].  A great deal of material was removed. Then there was a problem because the [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&oldid=59658#Rationalwiki_today RationalWiki] article linked to criticism that no longer existed. I therefore put the criticism of Conservapedia into a new article, [[The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]] and linked it to both the Conservapedia and [[RationalWiki]] articles. If that's still not acceptable I can probably get Rationalwiki to host it and put it into an external link. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:25, 15 November 2008 (EST)


[[Talk:The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]] is getting quite long. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 02:37, 16 November 2008 (EST)
[[Talk:The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]] is getting quite long. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 02:37, 16 November 2008 (EST)
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==Dispute Resolution==
==Dispute Resolution==
Hey John, wanted to see if you were interested in dispute resolution, my suggestion is [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3AThis_is_not_the_solution&diff=69572&oldid=69536 here] ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
Hey John, wanted to see if you were interested in dispute resolution, my suggestion is [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3AThis_is_not_the_solution&diff=69572&oldid=69536 here] ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
:If you are gonna be around or available in some way, I (and probably others) would appreciate if you could give us your perception of the [[WikiIndex:Policies and Guidelines|policy development page]] that I created to try to help [[editor]]s and [[sysop]]s, to anticipate what to expect from the administration. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 11:53, 6 September 2009 (EDT)
:If you are gonna be around or available in some way, I (and probably others) would appreciate if you could give us your perception of the [[WikiIndex:Policies and Guidelines|policy development page]] that I created to try to help [[editor]]s and [[sysop]]s, to anticipate what to expect from the administration. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 11:53, 6 September 2009 (EDT)