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 ::Etc. If you want to make something bold, use three apostrophes: this will employ the [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/b b or bring to attention element]. If you start a definition list but don't follow it with definitions, that's poor HTML semantics and is confusing to things like search engines indexing pages or screen readers attempting to vocalize the content of a page, etc. Does that make sense? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 23:05, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
+:::Ah, okay, I understand your point now.  Thanks for clarifying, and sorry for my delay in replying – I was sleeping on my thoughts!  Howeverrrrr, I am not sure I 100% agree – though I am open to further reasoning.  My understanding, and please forgive me if I'm wrong, I thought that [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] is based on [[wikitext]], rather than [[:Category:HTML|HTML]]?  I accept that MediaWiki still relies on a small number of HTML elements (along with [[:Category:Cascading Style Sheets|CSS]], {{W|Unicode}}, and [[:Category:JavaScript|JavaScript]]), particularly where there is no direct corresponding function within wikitext; a few examples being: <tt><nowiki><bdi></nowiki></tt>, <tt><nowiki><pre></nowiki></tt>, <tt><nowiki><sub></nowiki></tt>, and <tt><nowiki><sup></nowiki></tt>.  But there are many more elements that are considered highly verboten within wikitext (especially such as MediaWiki), examples <tt><nowiki><dl>, <dt>, and <dd></nowiki></tt> (for descriptions, which you eloquently show above with use of the colon and semi-colon), <tt><nowiki><ol></nowiki></tt> (for numbered lists, wikitext uses the hash), <tt><nowiki><h1> to <h6></nowiki></tt> (for levels of section headings, wikitext uses the equals sign - and I would imagine any editor on Wikipedia who used HTML to create section heading to be robustly chastised!), <tt><nowiki><p></nowiki></tt> (for creating paragraphs, when a simple carriage return suffices for wikitext).
+:::As for robots, indexers, and accessibility assisted technologies, I was under the impression that they all worked on the <u>rendered</u> page, rather than its constructed elements?  Again, please correct me if I am wrong.
+:::Finally, and I guess this goes back to the original reason for your comment to me, search engine optimisation and performance.  Again, my own thinking here; because articles here on WikiIndex are generally (a) very small, when compared to Wikipedia pages, and (b) follow a nigh-on identical format and structure (for articles on wiki, wiki engines, wiki farms, and wiki people) – do we actually need section headings (apart from long articles, or when section headings are highly desirable to separate specific areas within the prose)?  And a follow-on from that, if yes, is there any quantifiable value in a search engine indexing say the section(s) on references and / or external links?  Surely, surely, surely, for those who search and then find WikiIndex in search providers, we want search results to KEEP folks here in WikiIndex, rather than display searches for external links / sources which will take folks AWAY from WikiIndex?
+:::I greatly appreciate your learned advice and expertise.  WikiIndex is a lonely ship to steer alone!  Best regards always, [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 14:54, 13 August 2021 (UTC)