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==Request for promotion from [[User:Erwin|Erwin]]==
==Request for promotion from [[User:Erwin|Erwin]]==
Hi! I request [[admin]]ship and cratship, but if is not good, only sysop...[[User:Erwin|Erwin]] 08:59, 29 March 2010 (EDT)
Hi! I request [[admin]]ship and cratship, but if is not good, only sysop...[[User:Erwin|Erwin]] 08:59, 29 March 2010 (EDT)
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:::: Wolf and Mark are the two active crats (if I assessed that correctly).  I suppose it also depends on weather the site [[owner]] wishes to be more 'hands off' or not, or wishes to include all of the 'admin team' with equal rights and responsibilities.  All that being said, I would nominate Tera - she is incredibly trustworthy and level-headed, and would have no doubt she would keep WI on an even keel.  I suppose it would be handy if we knew the reason why Mark asked the question in the first instance!!  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:46, 8 September 2012 (PDT)
:::: Wolf and Mark are the two active crats (if I assessed that correctly).  I suppose it also depends on weather the site [[owner]] wishes to be more 'hands off' or not, or wishes to include all of the 'admin team' with equal rights and responsibilities.  All that being said, I would nominate Tera - she is incredibly trustworthy and level-headed, and would have no doubt she would keep WI on an even keel.  I suppose it would be handy if we knew the reason why Mark asked the question in the first instance!!  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:46, 8 September 2012 (PDT)


What are the abuses a bureaucrat could do? On another [[UniversalEditButton|wiki]] - I gave all known [[User|WikiPeople]] bureaucrat status.  I grew up on flat wikis, so don't know much about the [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] step system...well a little :-)  Also, this is a community wiki.  [[John]], [[Ray]] and I co-founded it.  Many others have done amazing work here.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
What are the abuses a bureaucrat could do? On another [[Universal Edit Button]] wiki - I gave all known [[User|WikiPeople]] bureaucrat status.  I grew up on flat wikis, so don't know much about the [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] step system...well a little :-)  Also, this is a community wiki.  [[John Stanton|John]], [[Ray]] and I co-founded it.  Many others have done amazing work here.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:The worst thing that could happen is a [[bureaucrat]] could [[mw:Extension:UserMerge|merge and delete]] [[user account]]s, but I checked [[Special:Version]] and we clearly do not have that unnecessary extension installed, so that worry is for naught. Once we install the [[mw:Extension:Renameuser|UserRename extension]] sooner or later, bureaucratship will be required to rename users. Bureaucrats can revoke bureaucratship as well, but that should probably not be a problem with our stable community. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]'''  8 September 2012
:The worst thing that could happen is a [[bureaucrat]] could {{Mw|Extension:UserMerge|merge and delete}} [[user]] accounts, but I checked [[Special:Version]] and we clearly do not have that unnecessary extension installed, so that worry is for naught. Once we install the {{Mw|Extension:Renameuser|UserRename extension}} sooner or later, bureaucrat-ship will be required to rename users. Bureaucrats can revoke bureaucrat-ship as well, but that should probably not be a problem with our stable community. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]'''  8 September 2012


::Ummm... Thank you for the confidence in me HH... I know that I have messed up here and there, but I hope that overall what I have done has been for the best of the community at large... I haven't been as active in the day-to-day management of WI, mostly for the speed of other Admins in getting to the spam here, but I do check on the site regularly, sometimes 10 or 20 times a day, and I have to admit that I look at every edit just in case... I do think that I need to question things a bit more, I have made some mistakes in reversing an edit a couple of times that I should have looked further into... Anyway... Thank you again for thinking of me... should Mark or the rest of the Admins want to give me that status, I will do my best for WI... [[User:TeraS|TeraS]] ([[User talk:TeraS|talk]]) 14:50, 8 September 2012 (PDT)
::Ummm... Thank you for the confidence in me HH... I know that I have messed up here and there, but I hope that overall what I have done has been for the best of the community at large... I haven't been as active in the day-to-day management of WI, mostly for the speed of other Admins in getting to the spam here, but I do check on the site regularly, sometimes 10 or 20 times a day, and I have to admit that I look at every edit just in case... I do think that I need to question things a bit more, I have made some mistakes in reversing an edit a couple of times that I should have looked further into... Anyway... Thank you again for thinking of me... should Mark or the rest of the Admins want to give me that status, I will do my best for WI... [[User:TeraS|TeraS]] ([[User talk:TeraS|talk]]) 14:50, 8 September 2012 (PDT)
:::Tera - I think, hand on heart, we have all made the odd mistake now and then.  Personally, I don't see 'mistakes' as a big deal - they are very easily rectified, and we all have slightly different, but complimentary skill sets on this wiki.  I nominated you because you run your own MediaWiki site, so have the necessary experience. <hugs> :-)
:::Tera - I think, hand on heart, we have all made the odd mistake now and then.  Personally, I don't see 'mistakes' as a big deal - they are very easily rectified, and we all have slightly different, but complimentary skill sets on this wiki.  I nominated you because you run your own MediaWiki site, so have the necessary experience. <hugs> :-)
:::I'm also aware that [[User:Elassint|Elassint]] seems to have a very good grasp with MediaWiki - though I'm not sure if s/he runs their own MediaWiki site ....
:::I'm also aware that [[User:Elassint|Elassint]] seems to have a very good grasp with MediaWiki - though I'm not sure if s/he runs their own MediaWiki site ....
:::Finally, don't we have a couple of MediaWiki / SMW devs on this wiki?  I think [[User talk:Kghbln|Kghbln]] (definately an active contributor here, and highly talented) and [[User:Yaron Koren|Yaron Koren]] are both certainly up to the job of being a crat.  And I also think [[User:Emijrp|Emijrp]] should also be a crat, based on his awesome knowledge of bots.
:::Finally, don't we have a couple of MediaWiki / SMW devs on this wiki?  I think [[User talk:Kghbln|Kghbln]] (definately an active contributor here, and highly talented) and [[Yaron Koren]] are both certainly up to the job of being a crat.  And I also think [[User:Emijrp|Emijrp]] should also be a crat, based on his awesome knowledge of bots.
:::Mark, whoever or whatever you decide, I personally would support increasing the number of crats here on WikiIndex.  Best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:53, 27 September 2012 (PDT)
:::Mark, whoever or whatever you decide, I personally would support increasing the number of crats here on WikiIndex.  Best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:53, 27 September 2012 (PDT)


==False statements==
==False statements==
[[Bureaucrat]]s are not the highest level, and they do not have the same abilities as higher groups. The "[[Special:ListUsers/staff|staff]]" group is above bureaucrats and can do more than crats can. Also, crats do not have the '[[user rights]]' permission, so saying that they can [[Special:UserRights|edit user rights]] in general is inaccurate. <b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<font color="#D47C14">itsJamie</font>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 14:18, 2 February 2017 (PST)
[[Bureaucrat]]s are not the highest level, and they do not have the same abilities as higher groups. The "[[Special:ListUsers/staff|staff]]" group is above bureaucrats and can do more than crats can. Also, crats do not have the '[[user rights]]' permission, so saying that they can [[Special:UserRights|edit user rights]] in general is inaccurate. <b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<font color=#D47C14>itsJamie</font>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 14:18, 2 February 2017 (PST)