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==Upgrade and logo stuff==
== Upgrade and logo stuff ==
 
Please check out [[WikiIndex:NewLogoDecision]] and [[WikiIndex:Spring 2011 Upgrade Path]], Best, [[MarkDilley]]
Please check out [[WikiIndex:NewLogoDecision]] and [[WikiIndex:Spring 2011 Upgrade Path]], Best, [[MarkDilley]]


== Deleting Wiki from WikiIndex ==
==Deleting Wiki from WikiIndex==
 
Hey Elassint,  looking forward to hearing what your thinking is in regards to moving away from [[:Category:Inactive]].  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
Hey Elassint,  looking forward to hearing what your thinking is in regards to moving away from [[:Category:Inactive]].  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: I don't think it really makes any sense to list sites that are long dead, especially if there is little or no information about the defunct wiki. [[EdBooks]] for example has been dead for at least 5 years, and the domain for [[Nepwiki]] seems to have never been registered. Is there any reason to keep these pages? '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 06 18 2011
: I don't think it really makes any sense to list sites that are long dead, especially if there is little or no information about the defunct wiki. [[EdBooks]] for example has been dead for at least 5 years, and the domain for [[Nepwiki]] seems to have never been registered. Is there any reason to keep these pages? '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 06 18 2011
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:::::I found additional argument for keeping after dealing with a lot of entries of presumably dead or inactive wiki: 10-20 % of them where not dead! Wikis re-activate, resurrect ;-) and the like. The [[wikisphere]] lives. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 07:58, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
:::::I found additional argument for keeping after dealing with a lot of entries of presumably dead or inactive wiki: 10-20 % of them where not dead! Wikis re-activate, resurrect ;-) and the like. The [[wikisphere]] lives. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 07:58, 25 September 2014 (UTC)


== Check this out ==
==Check this out==
 
I think this might have been something you were looking for?  [[Form:Wiki]].  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
I think this might have been something you were looking for?  [[Form:Wiki]].  Best, [[MarkDilley]]


== New User ==
==New User==
 
I'm impressed with how quickly you blocked [[User:Careforyouuu gupta]], which was obviously spam, and who registered just before [[Scott Schaefer|me]].  I hope I followed your procedures in registering and creating the pages [[Scott Schaefer]] and [[LexingtonWiki]].  Please let me know if I need to edit.  Thank you.
I'm impressed with how quickly you blocked [[User:Careforyouuu gupta]], which was obviously spam, and who registered just before [[Scott Schaefer|me]].  I hope I followed your procedures in registering and creating the pages [[Scott Schaefer]] and [[LexingtonWiki]].  Please let me know if I need to edit.  Thank you.


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:Whooo Hooo - pot calling the kettle black.  Going by [[Special:Contributions/ScottSchaefer]] - you TOO are a blatant spammer - why else has the vast majority of your contributions now been deleted????  Further comment [[User talk:DavidCary#LexingtonWiki Feedback|here]] on fellow Admin DavidCary's talk page.  Best regards to Elassint and all the Admins here on [[WikiIndex]] --  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 15:38, 30 December 2011 (PST)
:Whooo Hooo - pot calling the kettle black.  Going by [[Special:Contributions/ScottSchaefer]] - you TOO are a blatant spammer - why else has the vast majority of your contributions now been deleted????  Further comment [[User talk:DavidCary#LexingtonWiki Feedback|here]] on fellow Admin DavidCary's talk page.  Best regards to Elassint and all the Admins here on [[WikiIndex]] --  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 15:38, 30 December 2011 (PST)


== Thanks! ==
==Thanks!==
 
Thanks for the page move! --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 15:59, 13 July 2011 (PDT)
Thanks for the page move! --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 15:59, 13 July 2011 (PDT)


== Vandalism on my user page ==
==Vandalism on my user page==
 
Thanks for deleting. -- [[User:Supermorff|Supermorff]] 12:55, 29 July 2011 (PDT)
Thanks for deleting. -- [[User:Supermorff|Supermorff]] 12:55, 29 July 2011 (PDT)


== rocking work on spam patrolling ==
==Rocking work on spam patrolling==
 
I am asking everywhere - and I haven't found a clear answer on what to do.  I think having a random, number, answer, recaptcha might be the answer.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
I am asking everywhere - and I haven't found a clear answer on what to do.  I think having a random, number, answer, recaptcha might be the answer.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: There where no external links involved in the spam attack, so the weird gibberish/comment bots did not have to go through capatcha at all. Just tested it myself. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 07 30 2011
: There where no external links involved in the spam attack, so the weird gibberish/comment bots did not have to go through capatcha at all. Just tested it myself. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 07 30 2011
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:Tera's also been asking about solutions to this, over [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki|here]]. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 16:03, 8 September 2011 (PDT)
:Tera's also been asking about solutions to this, over [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki|here]]. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 16:03, 8 September 2011 (PDT)


== Columns ==
==Columns==
Thanks for the welcome. I know how to make templates but the "Template:Columns-list" is quite complicated. And it's a basic template. Many mediawiki users can make use of that. [[User:WikiFan|WikiFan]] 02:25, 2 November 2011 (PDT)
Thanks for the welcome. I know how to make templates but the "Template:Columns-list" is quite complicated. And it's a basic template. Many mediawiki users can make use of that. [[User:WikiFan|WikiFan]] 02:25, 2 November 2011 (PDT)


== Thanks ==
==Thanks==
 
Did you do that through the form, or [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=DayZ_Wiki&diff=0&oldid=126015 by hand]?
Did you do that through the form, or [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=DayZ_Wiki&diff=0&oldid=126015 by hand]?
:I used the form. It's working pretty well. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 05 21 2012
:I used the form. It's working pretty well. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 05 21 2012


== wikiFactor "crash" ==
==wikiFactor "crash"==
 
Dear Elassint, I have just noticed the [[wikiFactor]] "crash" for [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Citizendium Citizendium], and it is indeed a curious phenomenon. They seem to be running MediaWiki 1.16.5 (CZ modified) (r249), but on my wiki I have gone through these versions and the MySQL database did not lose any significant number of page counts, so I fail to see how a wikiFactor "crash" can occur. Interesting. --[[User:Spud Gun|<b><FONT COLOR=#8B3A3A>Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User talk:Spud Gun|talk]]) 03:13, 25 May 2012 (PDT)
Dear Elassint, I have just noticed the wikiFactor "crash" for [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Citizendium Citizendium], and it is indeed a curious phenomenon. They seem to be running MediaWiki 1.16.5 (CZ modified) (r249), but on my wiki I have gone through these versions and the MySQL database did not lose any significant number of page counts, so I fail to see how a wikiFactor "crash" can occur. Interesting. --[[User:Spud Gun | <b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User_talk:Spud_Gun |talk]]) 03:13, 25 May 2012 (PDT)
:My guess is that it's the odd way Citizendium users manage their site. That or something happened that reset the view counters and since then that's how many views they've got. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 05 25 2012
:My guess is that it's the odd way Citizendium users manage their site. That or something happened that reset the view counters and since then that's how many views they've got. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 05 25 2012
== No rename  ==


==No rename==
Hi, I have wanted this for a while, but you are the first person to mention it.  Let's put it on the feature request list.  How does that sound?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
Hi, I have wanted this for a while, but you are the first person to mention it.  Let's put it on the feature request list.  How does that sound?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:OK, that should be good for now. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 05 25 2012
:OK, that should be good for now. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 05 25 2012


== Welcoming ==
==Welcoming==
 
Hi, saw you [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar&curid=8171&diff=126479&oldid=126317 removed] that from the sidebar.  Would like to know your thoughts on it.  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
Hi, saw you [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar&curid=8171&diff=126479&oldid=126317 removed] that from the sidebar.  Would like to know your thoughts on it.  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
:Welcoming is a good thing to do, but I don't see how a sidebar link to an article on the subject is going to actually do much of anything. The sidebar is pretty big as it is anyway. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint<sup>Admin]]</sup>'''  17 June 2012
:Welcoming is a good thing to do, but I don't see how a sidebar link to an article on the subject is going to actually do much of anything. The sidebar is pretty big as it is anyway. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint<sup>Admin]]</sup>'''  17 June 2012


== URL organization ==
==URL organization==
 
I don't think it's a good idea how URLs are organized throughout this wiki, messing with pages and MediaWiki's files in the same directory. Maybe you want to move that files to a subdirectoy beginning with a lowercase letter, like I do on my wikis, and keep the base url solely for page names. This would also allow for non-directory-based rewrite rules in the server configuration and therefore save on subrequests and server load. Look at these rules I'm using on my wiki's vHosts:
I don't think it's a good idea how URLs are organized throughout this wiki, messing with pages and MediaWiki's files in the same directory. Maybe you want to move that files to a subdirectoy beginning with a lowercase letter, like I do on my wikis, and keep the base url solely for page names. This would also allow for non-directory-based rewrite rules in the server configuration and therefore save on subrequests and server load. Look at these rules I'm using on my wiki's vHosts:
  RewriteEngine on
  RewriteEngine on
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--[[User:Bachsau|Bachsau]] 05:03, 28 June 2012 (PDT)
--[[User:Bachsau|Bachsau]] 05:03, 28 June 2012 (PDT)


== Many thanks ==
==Many thanks==
 
for [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Wikkii.Org&diff=127456&oldid=127452 expanding my stub]. Best regards, [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 00:15, 19 July 2012 (PDT)
for [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Wikkii.Org&diff=127456&oldid=127452 expanding my stub]. Best regards, [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 00:15, 19 July 2012 (PDT)
 
== Defamation  ==


I speak of [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Ratchetpedia&curid=33726&diff=135623&oldid=127496 this] edit to the Ratchetpedia page, there is no evidence it was me. I considered removing it myself but then again the poster may just put it back. Thanks. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 14:38, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
==Defamation==
I speak of [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Ratchetpedia&curid=33726&diff=135623&oldid=127496 this] edit to the [[Ratchetpedia]] page, there is no evidence it was me. I considered removing it myself but then again the poster may just put it back. Thanks. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 14:38, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
:Another edit on the Ratchepedia page, no names mentioned but the event is...plus it really serves no point. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 11:06, 25 August 2012 (PDT)
:Another edit on the Ratchepedia page, no names mentioned but the event is...plus it really serves no point. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 11:06, 25 August 2012 (PDT)
::Hi I am being attacked on my talk page, pointless posts are being placed on there so i remove them and yet they are being put back. Thanks. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 07:38, 26 August 2012 (PDT)
::Hi I am being attacked on my talk page, pointless posts are being placed on there so i remove them and yet they are being put back. Thanks. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 07:38, 26 August 2012 (PDT)


== Spam emails ==
==Spam emails==
Hi Elassint. I'm sorry to burden you, but I'm hoping you'd be able to help me with the user above. I'd like to file a complaint against [[User:Escyos|Escyos]]. For the past two weeks, I've been receiving emails from various addresses under the stargate-wiki.org domain name. This domain, as you're probably aware by now, is owned by Escyos, and he's made no attempt at hiding this fact, seeing as he openly introduces himself as such. In the emails, he speaks at great lengths about his desire to start a "mutiny," of sorts, against several wikis, including [[Ratchetpedia]], [[Wikisimpsons]], [[Darthipedia]], and even WikiIndex. He also lists a group of "targets," i.e., usernames of people he's promised to ban, including the whole of WikiIndex's administrative team. I'm not sure why he's been spamming me (and close to 30 other people, judging from the contacts), but if I had to guess, he's looking for help and wants people to join his wiki-hacking group, the "Escyos Project". I can continue blocking his addresses every time he spams my inbox, but is there anything you can do to prevent a WikiIndex take-over? I'm planning to warn the administrators on the other targeted websites, as well. Thanks and sorry to bug you with this. [[User:Kayne|Kayne]] ([[User talk:Kayne|talk]]) 07:50, 26 August 2012 (PDT)
Hi Elassint. I'm sorry to burden you, but I'm hoping you'd be able to help me with the user above. I'd like to file a complaint against [[User:Escyos|Escyos]]. For the past two weeks, I've been receiving emails from various addresses under the stargate-wiki.org domain name. This domain, as you're probably aware by now, is owned by Escyos, and he's made no attempt at hiding this fact, seeing as he openly introduces himself as such. In the emails, he speaks at great lengths about his desire to start a "mutiny," of sorts, against several wikis, including [[Ratchetpedia]], [[Wikisimpsons]], [[Darthipedia]], and even WikiIndex. He also lists a group of "targets," i.e., usernames of people he's promised to ban, including the whole of WikiIndex's administrative team. I'm not sure why he's been spamming me (and close to 30 other people, judging from the contacts), but if I had to guess, he's looking for help and wants people to join his wiki-hacking group, the "Escyos Project". I can continue blocking his addresses every time he spams my inbox, but is there anything you can do to prevent a WikiIndex take-over? I'm planning to warn the administrators on the other targeted websites, as well. Thanks and sorry to bug you with this. [[User:Kayne|Kayne]] ([[User talk:Kayne|talk]]) 07:50, 26 August 2012 (PDT)


Could you please lock my talk page as some one is trying to make trouble. Thanks. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 09:03, 27 August 2012 (PDT)
Could you please lock my talk page as some one is trying to make trouble. Thanks. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 09:03, 27 August 2012 (PDT)


== Spammers - and new account names ==
==Spammers - and new account names==
 
Hi Elassint, I've noticed that a lot of the recent spammer new account creations are following similar name conventions - like 'cash', 'loan', 'credit', 'insurance' and 'payday'.  Would you know if there is any way we can set the software to automatically reject new account creations with those target words?  Would ether [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]] or [[My spam blacklist]] work, or do you have any other suggestions/ideas?  Best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 03:36, 25 September 2012 (PDT)
Hi Elassint, I've noticed that a lot of the recent spammer new account creations are following similar name conventions - like 'cash', 'loan', 'credit', 'insurance' and 'payday'.  Would you know if there is any way we can set the software to automatically reject new account creations with those target words?  Would ether [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]] or [[My spam blacklist]] work, or do you have any other suggestions/ideas?  Best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 03:36, 25 September 2012 (PDT)
:I don't think either of those pages would work because they are both for blacklisting known spam websites. I'm sure there is an extension somewhere that would allow us to blacklist certain usernames and username patterns, such as the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter abuse filter] extension, but the problem with username blacklist is what if a legitimate user comes over wanting to add a wiki that happens to be about loans? '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]'''  26 September 2012
:I don't think either of those pages would work because they are both for blacklisting known spam websites. I'm sure there is an extension somewhere that would allow us to blacklist certain usernames and username patterns, such as the {{Mw|Extension:AbuseFilter|abuse filter}} extension, but the problem with [[username]] blacklist is what if a legitimate user comes over wanting to add a wiki that happens to be about loans? '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]'''  26 September 2012
::Are there any repeating spam urls from these spammers which need adding to the blacklists?  The AbuseFilter extension looks promising - is [[MarkDilley|Mark]] aware, and/or does he intend installing it?  I take your point about usernames - particularly 'legitimate' usernames - but surely that would be an ''if''.  I'm not aware of any wiki about loans etc (and I've no doubt that a google search for "loan wiki" would throw up anything BUT wikis on loans!) - but I think you slightly miss the point - my thoughts were on usernames, not article titles ... a loan wiki ''could'' still be created (either by an IP editor, or an existing registered user, or even the owner of the loan wiki by creating an account here with a [[WikiIndex:Real names|RealName]] or an acceptable [[WikiIndex:Real names#2. Pseudonyms|pseudonym]]).  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 07:40, 26 September 2012 (PDT)
::Are there any repeating spam urls from these spammers which need adding to the blacklists?  The AbuseFilter extension looks promising - is [[MarkDilley|Mark]] aware, and/or does he intend installing it?  I take your point about usernames - particularly 'legitimate' usernames - but surely that would be an ''if''.  I'm not aware of any wiki about loans etc (and I've no doubt that a google search for "loan wiki" would throw up anything BUT wikis on loans!) - but I think you slightly miss the point - my thoughts were on usernames, not article titles ... a loan wiki ''could'' still be created (either by an IP editor, or an existing registered user, or even the owner of the loan wiki by creating an account here with a [[WikiIndex:Real names|RealName]] or an acceptable [[WikiIndex:Real names#2. Pseudonyms|pseudonym]]).  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 07:40, 26 September 2012 (PDT)


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:::Oh... OK.  I wondered if you might have noticed the same spammers on any other wikis you sysop on.  I just wish Mark would hurry on with the upgrades!  Best  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 10:45, 12 April 2013 (PDT)
:::Oh... OK.  I wondered if you might have noticed the same spammers on any other wikis you sysop on.  I just wish Mark would hurry on with the upgrades!  Best  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 10:45, 12 April 2013 (PDT)


== Memorial ==
==Memorial==
 
Hi, I have a friend who killed himself (several months ago; I was away and didn't find out about it until yesterday), and his widow and I were discussing creating a memorial. He doesn't fit into any special category like 9/11 victims, so it wouldn't be appropriate for a site like [[In Memoriam]] (which is not even up anymore). We were talking about creating a wiki just for him, but I'm thinking it would be better to just create a page on another memorial wiki, rather than creating a wiki with maybe only one article. Is there an appropriate place in the wikisphere for this? Thanks, [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 05:26, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I have a friend who killed himself (several months ago; I was away and didn't find out about it until yesterday), and his widow and I were discussing creating a memorial. He doesn't fit into any special category like 9/11 victims, so it wouldn't be appropriate for a site like [[In Memoriam]] (which is not even up anymore). We were talking about creating a wiki just for him, but I'm thinking it would be better to just create a page on another memorial wiki, rather than creating a wiki with maybe only one article. Is there an appropriate place in the wikisphere for this? Thanks, [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 05:26, 10 October 2013 (UTC)


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Thank you for being reasonable. I hope you don't mind, but I think I'll create a page for [[Nukapedia]] later, too, just for sake of information balance. [[Special:Contributions/67.187.96.246|67.187.96.246]] 08:22, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for being reasonable. I hope you don't mind, but I think I'll create a page for [[Nukapedia]] later, too, just for sake of information balance. [[Special:Contributions/67.187.96.246|67.187.96.246]] 08:22, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


== Leucosticte ==
==Leucosticte==
 
Why do you let write about himself and add links to pedophile sites? [[User:Sophie Wilder|Sophie Wilder]] ([[User talk:Sophie Wilder|talk]]) 15:13, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Why do you let write about himself and add links to pedophile sites? [[User:Sophie Wilder|Sophie Wilder]] ([[User talk:Sophie Wilder|talk]]) 15:13, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
:I guess the question would be, Why not? [[WikiIndex:About]] says, "The [[:Category:Wiki People|people]] of WikiIndex are creating a complete directory of all [[:Category:Wiki|wiki]] websites on the Internet." Completeness usually requires that people write about themselves and their sites, because often no one else cares about the topic. [[WikiIndex:Policies and Guidelines]] says 'One man's "irrelevant" can be another's "interesting".' [[WikiIndex:FrequentlyAskedQuestions]] says, "[[WikiIndex]] is not the same as [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]]. Original research is allowed. Having a point of view is allowed."
:I guess the question would be, Why not? [[WikiIndex:About]] says, "The [[:Category:Wiki People|people]] of WikiIndex are creating a complete directory of all [[:Category:Wiki|wiki]] websites on the Internet." Completeness usually requires that people write about themselves and their sites, because often no one else cares about the topic. [[WikiIndex:Policies and Guidelines]] says 'One man's "irrelevant" can be another's "interesting".' [[WikiIndex:FrequentlyAskedQuestions]] says, "[[WikiIndex]] is not the same as [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]]. Original research is allowed. Having a point of view is allowed."
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:This is not like RationalWiki, which has a goal of catering to leftist orthodoxy and letting the leftist mob rule, even at the expense of making the truth known. RationalWiki makes it clear, by how they treat people and the content they allow to remain on the site, that non-leftists are mostly unwelcome; WikiIndex tries to be more inclusive and eclectic. Rather than subtracting facts from articles, why don't you add facts? That would better serve the goal of helping people become well-informed. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 15:25, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
:This is not like RationalWiki, which has a goal of catering to leftist orthodoxy and letting the leftist mob rule, even at the expense of making the truth known. RationalWiki makes it clear, by how they treat people and the content they allow to remain on the site, that non-leftists are mostly unwelcome; WikiIndex tries to be more inclusive and eclectic. Rather than subtracting facts from articles, why don't you add facts? That would better serve the goal of helping people become well-informed. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 15:25, 4 March 2014 (UTC)


== Question ==
==Question==
 
I have been adding several Dutch wiki's, they are all on the listing on the frontpage, and I wanted to know how do I get the wikis to show up under the Dutch language category? Do I have to make an account in order to approve them? Do you also know how I could make sure many of these Dutch wikis will end up being archived. I am sure most of them will, but there is a very large one called [[Catawiki]] (NL,EN,FR,DU), which probaly isn't a mediawiki site, it is a site where people can add and sell there hobbyproducts and make pages for them, it has a huge amount of data. Do you have any suggestions? --[[Special:Contributions/213.93.202.241|213.93.202.241]] 12:55, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
I have been adding several Dutch wiki's, they are all on the listing on the frontpage, and I wanted to know how do I get the wikis to show up under the Dutch language category? Do I have to make an account in order to approve them? Do you also know how I could make sure many of these Dutch wikis will end up being archived. I am sure most of them will, but there is a very large one called [[Catawiki]] (NL,EN,FR,DU), which probaly isn't a mediawiki site, it is a site where people can add and sell there hobbyproducts and make pages for them, it has a huge amount of data. Do you have any suggestions? --[[Special:Contributions/213.93.202.241|213.93.202.241]] 12:55, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
:The Dutch language category is [[:Category:Wiki Dutch]], which contains all of your wikis already. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]'''  9 March 2014
:The Dutch language category is [[:Category:Wiki Dutch]], which contains all of your wikis already. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]'''  9 March 2014
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Thanks for following up with that, I have never experienced it, so weird! :-)  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
Thanks for following up with that, I have never experienced it, so weird! :-)  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]


:I am trying to figure out how this could happen. I verified it. [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User:Abd/sandbox&oldid=176010] shows the pages that are not displayed when not logged in. There are certain special pages that might not be displayable without a special user class, but this is the first I've ever heard or seen something like this. [[AFC Ajax]] displays in [[:Category:Wiki Dutch]] whether logged in or not. When I'm logged out, [[Apache OpenOffice]] does not display in the category. In both cases the Category is applied through [[Template:Wiki]]. Looking at [[Apache OpenOffice]] logged out, I see the category Wiki Dutch at the bottom, so the template is being parsed properly.
:I am trying to figure out how this could happen. I verified it. [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=User:Abd/sandbox&oldid=176010] shows the pages that are not displayed when not logged in. There are certain special pages that might not be displayable without a special user class, but this is the first I've ever heard or seen something like this. [[AFC Ajax]] displays in [[:Category:Wiki Dutch]] whether logged in or not. When I'm logged out, [[Apache OpenOffice]] does not display in the category. In both cases the Category is applied through [[Template:Wiki]]. Looking at [[Apache OpenOffice]] logged out, I see the category Wiki Dutch at the bottom, so the template is being parsed properly.


:I did not see this phenomenon with [[:Category:Wiki French]], even though there are more pages in that category (296 logged in or not). Nor with [[:Category:Wiki Spanish]], with 2,539 pages either way, or [[:Category:Wiki German]], 2,332 pages. Just Wiki Dutch.
:I did not see this phenomenon with [[:Category:Wiki French]], even though there are more pages in that category (296 logged in or not). Nor with [[:Category:Wiki Spanish]], with 2,539 pages either way, or [[:Category:Wiki German]], 2,332 pages. Just Wiki Dutch.
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:::Confirming the above, I have now seen a difference. The non-displayed pages are newly added to the category. The oldest were [[ArchiefWiki]], categorized 22:06, 21 February 2014, [[SigarenWiki]], categorized 22:20, 21 February 2014, and [[The Dutch Charmed Wiki]], 22:09, 21 February 2014. It is looking like logged-in users are getting more recent collected categorization data. And the data is being collected for a logged-in user, then not available to the same user if then logged out and requested again. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 00:49, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
:::Confirming the above, I have now seen a difference. The non-displayed pages are newly added to the category. The oldest were [[ArchiefWiki]], categorized 22:06, 21 February 2014, [[SigarenWiki]], categorized 22:20, 21 February 2014, and [[The Dutch Charmed Wiki]], 22:09, 21 February 2014. It is looking like logged-in users are getting more recent collected categorization data. And the data is being collected for a logged-in user, then not available to the same user if then logged out and requested again. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 00:49, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
{{done|Fixed}}  [http://wikiindex.org/Category:Wiki_Dutch?action=purge purged] while logged out. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 12:38, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
{{Done|Fixed}}  [https://WikiIndex.org/Category:Wiki_Dutch?action=purge purged] while logged out. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 12:38, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
: confirmed, the pages work for me too. --[[User:Redgreenfourties|Redgreenfourties]] ([[User talk:Redgreenfourties|talk]]) 13:01, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
: confirmed, the pages work for me too. --[[User:Redgreenfourties|Redgreenfourties]] ([[User talk:Redgreenfourties|talk]]) 13:01, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
: The software must treat all logged-out users as the same. It worked for me, too, i.e., I didn't do anything, but all pages now display. See [[mw:Manual:Purge]]. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 13:42, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
: The software must treat all logged-out users as the same. It worked for me, too, i.e., I didn't do anything, but all pages now display. See [[mw:Manual:Purge]]. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 13:42, 10 March 2014 (UTC)


== Personal enemy ==
==Personal enemy==
 
Hey Elassint, I don't necessary disagree with your decision to delete [[Research Psychologist]], but Research Psychologist is not a personal enemy of mine. If you review my interactions with him, you'll see that he has always been a sysop at every wiki I've operated that he's chosen to participate in, and although I did have to take away his powers briefly (since his tendency, for awhile, was to protect pages at the first sign of conflict rather than to first try the [[BRD cycle]]; and he kept misusing page protection despite repeated warnings), I gave them back. He is still welcome to come back to those wikis, in fact, and I would be glad to see him.
Hey Elassint,
I don't necessary disagree with your decision to delete [[Research Psychologist]], but Research Psychologist is not a personal enemy of mine. If you review my interactions with him, you'll see that he has always been a sysop at every wiki I've operated that he's chosen to participate in, and although I did have to take away his powers briefly (since his tendency, for awhile, was to protect pages at the first sign of conflict rather than to first try the [[BRD cycle]]; and he kept misusing page protection despite repeated warnings), I gave them back. He is still welcome to come back to those wikis, in fact, and I would be glad to see him.


Researcher Psychologist (or as I know him, Cathartes) chose to make the edits he made, because he had certain beliefs (some of which I find intriguing, by the way). I don't think he's ashamed of his record or anything like that. People have accused him of various things, but those are just accusations. Still, I respect WikiIndex's right to choose what kind of content it wants to include or exclude. I just point it out because you put "This is clearly harassment" and I want to make sure I set the record straight that it wasn't intended as harassment.
Researcher Psychologist (or as I know him, Cathartes) chose to make the edits he made, because he had certain beliefs (some of which I find intriguing, by the way). I don't think he's ashamed of his record or anything like that. People have accused him of various things, but those are just accusations. Still, I respect WikiIndex's right to choose what kind of content it wants to include or exclude. I just point it out because you put "This is clearly harassment" and I want to make sure I set the record straight that it wasn't intended as harassment.
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Anyway, keep up the good work; the sysops here show much more restraint than at many other wikis, where people are often unwilling to simply let drama run its course. They think it's necessary to kick one faction or the other off the wiki rather than allowing different opinions to be expressed. I think it's okay for various debates to be constantly going on at a wiki, as long as new and relevant information and arguments based on it continue to be put forth, and people don't just keep repeating themselves. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 21:46, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Anyway, keep up the good work; the sysops here show much more restraint than at many other wikis, where people are often unwilling to simply let drama run its course. They think it's necessary to kick one faction or the other off the wiki rather than allowing different opinions to be expressed. I think it's okay for various debates to be constantly going on at a wiki, as long as new and relevant information and arguments based on it continue to be put forth, and people don't just keep repeating themselves. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 21:46, 10 March 2014 (UTC)


== [[Nathania]] ==
==[[Nathania]]==
 
You full-protected this page due to revert warring. The author, [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]], is not normally a revert warrior, but was faced with open proxy IP [[vandal]]ism and one single-purpose account, [[User:Sophie Wilder|Sophie Wilder]], who has since been blocked. (Sophie Wilder is an elected moderator at [[RationalWiki]], and joined with the IP proxies in attacking Leucosticte.) Because that page does still contain excessive detail, and one trivial error introduced by an open proxy vandal (see Talk), please reduce protection to semipro, allowing registered editors to edit. If that single editor returns to what amounted to vandalism as well, she could be blocked again. (I assume she's welcome to edit non-disruptively here, which could include working collaboratively to ensure more appropriate coverage of any site.) Thanks. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 13:38, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
You full-protected this page due to revert warring. The author, [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]], is not normally a revert warrior, but was faced with open proxy IP vandalism and one single-purpose account, [[User:Sophie Wilder|Sophie Wilder]], who has since been blocked. (Sophie Wilder is an elected moderator at RationalWiki, and joined with the IP proxies in attacking Leucosticte.) Because that page does still contain excessive detail, and one trivial error introduced by an open proxy vandal (see Talk), please reduce protection to semipro, allowing registered editors to edit. If that single editor returns to what amounted to vandalism as well, she could be blocked again. (I assume she's welcome to edit non-disruptively here, which could include working collaboratively to ensure more appropriate coverage of any site.) Thanks. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 13:38, 14 March 2014 (UTC)


==Unbundling of Wiki Status, etc==
==Unbundling of Wiki Status, etc==
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:Are You just lurking or will You take part in the discussion?[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 23:30, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
:Are You just lurking or will You take part in the discussion?[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 23:30, 18 August 2014 (UTC)


== Should we have alternative infoboxes besides Template:Wiki? ==
==Should we have alternative infoboxes besides Template:Wiki?==
 
Discussion [[WikiIndex talk:Community portal#Alternative Infoboxes|here]]. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] ([[User talk:MarvelZuvembie|talk]]) 19:41, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
Discussion [[WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal#Alternative_Infoboxes|here]]. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] ([[User talk:MarvelZuvembie|talk]]) 19:41, 27 August 2014 (UTC)


==LogoLinking==
==LogoLinking==
Do You have an opinion on [[Category_talk:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki#Voting_about_YiFeiBot_changing_access_to_our_files_Category:WikiLogo_via_Logo-URL_to_File:Link|that]]?  
Do You have an opinion on [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#Voting about YiFeiBot changing access to our files Category:WikiLogo via Logo-URL to File:Link|that]]?  
Please place Your vote on this. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 11:21, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Please place Your vote on this. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 11:21, 30 August 2014 (UTC)


: there is also an option for  something like "I don't' care", if You care ;-) [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])
: there is also an option for  something like "I don't' care", if You care ;-) [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])


== How much of a sysop are You now? ==
==How much of a sysop are You now?==
 
First criticising [[Category talk:Pages for deletion]] then becoming admin Your self and then what? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 12:50, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
First criticising [[Category talk:Pages for deletion]] then becoming admin Your self and then what? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 12:50, 4 September 2014 (UTC)


== Good chance for Check-Users to do something useful: ==
==Good chance for Check-Users to do something useful:==
 
[[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#Getting the email function to work for all]]
 
[[Category_talk:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki#Getting_the_email_function_to_work_for_all]]
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 19:20, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 19:20, 7 September 2014 (UTC)


== Account creation ==
==Account creation==
You welcomed me after my account was finally available. So I assume You know quite something about account creation. I hope You can contribute to this: [[User_talk:MarkDilley#Special:RequestAccount]] or not ? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:40, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
You welcomed me after my account was finally available. So I assume You know quite something about account creation. I hope You can contribute to this: [[User talk:MarkDilley#Special:RequestAccount]] or not ? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:40, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 
== Request for [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] concerns  ==


==Request for [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] concerns==
I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to the upcoming [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] and solicit your help in making the transition a positive rather than negative experience.  Please take a moment to visit [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] and curate the list of concerns.  Thanks! -- [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 22:38, 14 November 2014 (UTC) (call forwarded by [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 23:15, 14 November 2014 (UTC))
I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to the upcoming [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] and solicit your help in making the transition a positive rather than negative experience.  Please take a moment to visit [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] and curate the list of concerns.  Thanks! -- [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 22:38, 14 November 2014 (UTC) (call forwarded by [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 23:15, 14 November 2014 (UTC))


== [[Yoga Wiki Wiki]] ==
==[[Yoga Wiki Wiki]]==
 
You deleted this page. But we do keep historical entries. Please undelete it! [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 05:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
You deleted this page. But we do keep historical entries. Please undelete it! [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 05:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)


== Weigh in on [[WikiIndex:ServerName#Poll]]? ==
==Weigh in on [[WikiIndex:ServerName#Poll]]?==
 
I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to a potential [[WikiIndex:ServerName|decision to change the domain of this wiki]].  I hope you'll weigh in with your opinion.  Thanks! [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 20:09, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to a potential [[WikiIndex:ServerName|decision to change the domain of this wiki]].  I hope you'll weigh in with your opinion.  Thanks! [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 20:09, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


[[Category:AccountUsed2007]]
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