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==Cool, thanks!==
==Cool, thanks!==
Thanks for the welcome, Mark! [[User:BushyTree|BushyTree]] 20:06, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
Thanks for the welcome, Mark! [[Special:Contributions/BushyTree|BushyTree]] ([[User talk:BushyTree|talk]]) 20:06, 6 July 2008 (EDT)


==[[Vandal]]==
==[[Vandal]]==
[[User:Deborah]] has vandalized the [[Conservapedia]] article. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 17:09, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
[[Special:Contributions/Deborah|User:Deborah]] has vandalized the [[Conservapedia]] article. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 17:09, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
:Deborah deleted everything she didn't like again.  I've restored it for  the moment. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 12:56, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
:Deborah deleted everything she didn't like again.  I've restored it for  the moment. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 12:56, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
::Sssssss... Get out of bed! ''{scares Mark out of bed}'' --[[User:Snuffleupagus|Snuffleupagus]] 12:34, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
::Sssssss... Get out of bed! ''{scares Mark out of bed}'' --[[User:Snuffleupagus|Snuffleupagus]] 12:34, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
:::[[User:Deborah]] has deleted everything she didn't like again.  I've restored it for  the moment yet again. I suggest you contact her and ask her to compromise. My computer's broken down and I'm limited to public computers at the moment. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 10:59, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
:::[[Special:Contributions/Deborah|User:Deborah]] has deleted everything she didn't like again.  I've restored it for  the moment yet again. I suggest you contact her and ask her to compromise. My computer's broken down and I'm limited to public computers at the moment. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 10:59, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
::::I've registered with [[AboutUs]] with my real name but I'm having second thoughts as Internet safety experts advise against this.  I haven't activated the account yet. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 17:03, 28 August 2008 (EDT)
::::I've registered with [[AboutUs]] with my real name but I'm having second thoughts as Internet safety experts advise against this.  I haven't activated the account yet. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 17:03, 28 August 2008 (EDT)


==Problem user==
==Problem user==
[http://liberapedia.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Ajuk#Dagoth_Ur.2C_Mad_God Dagoth Ur, Mad God] has an account [[User:Dagoth Ur, Mad God|here]].  I suggest you watch him.  I don’t know the truth. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:27, 8 September 2008 (EDT)
[http://liberapedia.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Ajuk#Dagoth_Ur.2C_Mad_God Dagoth Ur, Mad God] has an account [[User:Dagoth Ur, Mad God|here]].  I suggest you watch him.  I don’t know the truth. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:27, 8 September 2008 (EDT)
:Where's me money? ''[reaches inside Mark's pocket and steals wallet]'' --[[User:Mr. Krabs|Mr. Krabs]] 13:04, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
:Where's me money? ''[reaches inside Mark's pocket and steals wallet]'' --[[User talk:Mr. Krabs|Mr. Krabs]] 13:04, 23 September 2008 (EDT)


==Lost password and no email addy registered==
==Lost password and no email addy registered==
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==Conservapedia, RationalWiki etc==
==Conservapedia, RationalWiki etc==
There’s an edit war in progress over [[Conservapedia]], [[RationalWiki]], and [[The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]].  More can be found on the talk pages of all 3 articles and in the page histories.  I’m biased in favour of RationalWiki.  Conservapedia supporters would an impartial administrator to intervene.  I will try to summarize objectively.
There’s an edit war in progress over [[Conservapedia]], [[RationalWiki]], and [[Talk:The Conservapedia RationalWiki war|The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]].  More can be found on the talk pages of all 3 articles and in the page histories.  I’m biased in favour of RationalWiki.  Conservapedia supporters would an impartial administrator to intervene.  I will try to summarize objectively.
#'''RationalWiki point of view''':  Conservapedia deserves the criticism. Conservapedia regularly blocks and deletes dissent on its website.  They want to prevent criticism similarly here.  There are especially large articles criticizing Conservapedia on Wikiindex because there are special problems with Conservapedia.
#'''RationalWiki point of view''':  Conservapedia deserves the criticism. Conservapedia regularly blocks and deletes dissent on its website.  They want to prevent criticism similarly here.  There are especially large articles criticizing Conservapedia on Wikiindex because there are special problems with Conservapedia.
#'''Conservapedia point of view''':  RationalWiki are wiki [[vandal]]s and irresponsible atheists.  We struggle to keep our wiki Christian and fundamentalist and RationalWiki vandals cause us constant problems. (As a [[RationalWikian]] I feel this criticism is true of a few RationalWikians but not all).  No other wiki has such long prominent criticism and Conservapedia shouldn’t either.  If criticism is allowed here critical sections can spread to other wikis and explode out of control.  Some users who appear neutral also feel that criticism shouldn’t be allowed because of this.  
#'''Conservapedia point of view''':  RationalWiki are wiki [[vandal]]s and irresponsible atheists.  We struggle to keep our wiki Christian and fundamentalist and RationalWiki vandals cause us constant problems. (As a [[RationalWikian]] I feel this criticism is true of a few RationalWikians but not all).  No other wiki has such long prominent criticism and Conservapedia shouldn’t either.  If criticism is allowed here critical sections can spread to other wikis and explode out of control.  Some users who appear neutral also feel that criticism shouldn’t be allowed because of this.  
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I’ve considered things.  It can be a shock when a user doesn’t know that he/she is committing a [[block]]able offense and suddenly is looking at a ban window.  This can happen on many wikis.  Problems with users being blocked for expressing dissenting views aren’t unique to Conservapedia.  To address this I’ve made a new category, [[:Category:Wikis with a strong viewpoint]].  To be neutral I’ve included many secular wikis as well as religious wikis in this category. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 04:45, 22 November 2008 (EST)
I’ve considered things.  It can be a shock when a user doesn’t know that he/she is committing a [[block]]able offense and suddenly is looking at a ban window.  This can happen on many wikis.  Problems with users being blocked for expressing dissenting views aren’t unique to Conservapedia.  To address this I’ve made a new category, [[:Category:Wikis with a strong viewpoint]].  To be neutral I’ve included many secular wikis as well as religious wikis in this category. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 04:45, 22 November 2008 (EST)


I.m thinking of a 4th article stating mainly the Conservapedia point of view. As I see it [[Andrew Schlafly]] has 20,000 pages to express his right-wing Christian fundamentalist point of view.  He has it because his mother can afford to finance it.  His views don't merit that coverage. I don't think 3 pages here to counteract 20,000 pages is to much.  I won't have much time for a few hours.  I'll be busy on RationalWiki refuting the latest Schlafly stuff that Darwin  and other evolutionists are  responsinble for what Hitler did.  I'll have time to drop back here.  
I.m thinking of a 4th article stating mainly the Conservapedia point of view. As I see it [[RationalWiki:Andrew Schlafly|Andrew Schlafly]] has 20,000 pages to express his right-wing Christian fundamentalist point of view.  He has it because his mother can afford to finance it.  His views don't merit that coverage. I don't think 3 pages here to counteract 20,000 pages is to much.  I won't have much time for a few hours.  I'll be busy on RationalWiki refuting the latest Schlafly stuff that Darwin  and other evolutionists are  responsinble for what Hitler did.  I'll have time to drop back here.  


I don't think this type of essay article will spread throughout Wikindex.  Users arn't interested enough in writing them. If essay articles develop they could potentially make Wikiindex more interesting and help the wiki to grow.  I have no opinions one way or the other about [[Wookieepedia]] as I don't know the wiki. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 02:29, 23 November 2008 (EST)
I don't think this type of essay article will spread throughout Wikindex.  Users arn't interested enough in writing them. If essay articles develop they could potentially make Wikiindex more interesting and help the wiki to grow.  I have no opinions one way or the other about [[Wookieepedia]] as I don't know the wiki. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 02:29, 23 November 2008 (EST)
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:EDIT: [[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] has already done this. See: [[WikiIndex talk:Community talk#Site reviews]]. [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 07:09, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
:EDIT: [[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] has already done this. See: [[WikiIndex talk:Community talk#Site reviews]]. [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 07:09, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
::It's certainly possible to add extra fields to the {{Template|Wiki}}. Naturally, I'd recommend creating a proposal for such first. (I think there's a link to proposals on the [[WikiIndex:Community portal]].) Whether or not a wiki allows advertising seems like a logical addition to the template. Just recently, Speckmade added the "license" field to let people know how their work will be copyrighted/attributed if they should submit information to a wiki. Of course, even without adding it to the template, you can always add to the text.
::It's certainly possible to add extra fields to the {{Template|Wiki}}. Naturally, I'd recommend creating a proposal for such first. (I think there's a link to proposals on the [[WikiIndex:Community portal]].) Whether or not a wiki allows advertising seems like a logical addition to the template. Just recently, Speckmade added the "license" field to let people know how their work will be copyrighted/attributed if they should submit information to a wiki. Of course, even without adding it to the template, you can always add to the text.
::As far as the canon/fanon issue, I think I created a [[:Category:Fanon]] a while back. Whoops, nope, it wasn't me, but someone else did. There's also a few wikis tagged with the non-existant [[:Category:Fandoms]]. Taxonomy around here is from the ground up, although I've done some sorting just to try and lump like items together. I don't think there's a Category:Canon, but there could be. Regardless, that's totally appropriate info to add to a wiki's article. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 18:59, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
::As far as the canon/fanon issue, I think I created a [[:Category:Fanon]] a while back. Whoops, nope, it wasn't me, but someone else did. There's also a few wikis tagged with the non-existant [[:Category:Fandom]]. Taxonomy around here is from the ground up, although I've done some sorting just to try and lump like items together. I don't think there's a [[:Category:Canon]], but there could be. Regardless, that's totally appropriate info to add to a wiki's article. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 18:59, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
:::It would take ages for someone to shoot around looking for all the wikis that should be added to Category:Canon. I know that [[Wookiepedia]] and [[Memory Alpha]] (and [[Memory Beta]]) contain canon (of Categeory:Star Wars and [[:Category:Star Trek]]), but you need someone with geek-level knowledge of the subject matter to make the judgement call.
:::It would take ages for someone to shoot around looking for all the wikis that should be added to Category:Canon. I know that [[Wookiepedia]] and [[Memory Alpha]] (and [[Memory Beta]]) contain canon (of Categeory:Star Wars and [[:Category:Star Trek]]), but you need someone with geek-level knowledge of the subject matter to make the judgement call.
:::As for [[:Category:Fandoms]] that has got to be slightly different to [[:Category:Fanon]]. There are plenty of things that fans ''might'' do that do not involve canon or fanon. Maybe [[:Category:Fandoms]] should be the parent category to Category:Canon and [[:Category:Fanon]]. [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 07:17, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
:::As for [[:Category:Fandom]] that has got to be slightly different to [[:Category:Fanon]]. There are plenty of things that fans ''might'' do that do not involve canon or fanon. Maybe Category:Fandom should be the parent category to Category:Canon and [[:Category:Fanon]]. [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 07:17, 23 May 2009 (EDT)


==Arbitrary celebration==
==Arbitrary celebration==
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==Admin abuse by [[User:Proxima Centauri]]==
==Admin abuse by [[User:Proxima Centauri]]==
Your assistance in this matter would be appreciated [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#Admin abuse by Proxima Centauri|here]]. Thank you [[User:38.108.111.63|38.108.111.63]] 14:49, 9 July 2009 (EDT)
Your assistance in this matter would be appreciated [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#Admin abuse by Proxima Centauri|here]]. Thank you [[Special:Contributions/38.108.111.63|38.108.111.63]] 14:49, 9 July 2009 (EDT)
:Once more, Proxima is abusing her admin rights at [[RationalWiki]].  She has locked the article, and is taking advantage of RW being down to [[spam]] pointless links to her own pet wiki, [[Liberapedia]].  She also [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Proxima+Centauri&page= blocked a user] ([[User:Nx]]) for correcting her incompetence. I repeat, she is a power-mad authoritarian with very poor language and comprehension skills. (I can footnote those accusations if necessary). [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 00:59, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
:Once more, Proxima is abusing her [[admin]] rights at [[RationalWiki]].  She has locked the article, and is taking advantage of RW being down to [[spam]] pointless links to her own pet wiki, [[Liberapedia]].  She also [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Proxima+Centauri&page= blocked a user] ([[User:Nx]]) for correcting her incompetence. I repeat, she is a power-mad authoritarian with very poor language and comprehension skills. (I can footnote those accusations if necessary). [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 00:59, 24 August 2009 (EDT)


These have been [[troll]]ing and being deliberately abusive, if you aren't satisfied with the way I deal with trolls I'm close to leaving. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 02:46, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
These have been [[troll]]ing and being deliberately abusive, if you aren't satisfied with the way I deal with trolls I'm close to leaving. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 02:46, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
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==Vulnerabilities of this wiki==
==Vulnerabilities of this wiki==
[[User talk:Nx|Nx claims he can do uuuh... something]]. Do you know if this is true or how to prevent it? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:50, 4 September 2009 (EDT)
[[User talk:Nx|Nx claims he can do uuuh... something]]. Do you know if this is true or how to prevent it? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:50, 4 September 2009 (EDT)
:Replace the extension with the [[mw:Extension:WhosOnline]] new version. The one you are using contains an SQL injection vulnerability. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 06:57, 4 September 2009 (EDT)
:Replace the extension with the {{Mw|Extension:WhosOnline}} new version. The one you are using contains an SQL injection vulnerability. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 06:57, 4 September 2009 (EDT)
: ''Thanks, I am working on try to get the upgrade. Best, [[MarkDilley]]''
: ''Thanks, I am working on try to get the upgrade. Best, [[MarkDilley]]''
::Nx says he doesn't like me knowing when he is online. I'm not too comfortable using it on my user page anymore. You might want to consider just removing it. I don't like the idea of getting the law involved. If we can provide some (more) concessions to those who know how to fix (or exploit) stuff like this, they may help us out (more). [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 04:17, 6 September 2009 (EDT)
::Nx says he doesn't like me knowing when he is online. I'm not too comfortable using it on my user page anymore. You might want to consider just removing it. I don't like the idea of getting the law involved. If we can provide some (more) concessions to those who know how to fix (or exploit) stuff like this, they may help us out (more). [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 04:17, 6 September 2009 (EDT)