Category talk:Wiki status: Difference between revisions

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*This template inactive is a drag! Just I encountered a Wiki [[Felix Pleşoianu Wiki]] run by one of our early users here, which was striked out by this template bit quite active indeed. This is the case in more than 15% of Wikis with this template over them. I uncovered lots of them in the recent month. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 17:38, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
*This template inactive is a drag! Just I encountered a Wiki [[Felix Pleşoianu Wiki]] run by one of our early users here, which was striked out by this template bit quite active indeed. This is the case in more than 15% of Wikis with this template over them. I uncovered lots of them in the recent month. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 17:38, 29 October 2014 (UTC)


==[[:Category:Private]] is not consistent a member of Wiki Status==
==[[:Category:Private]] is not consistent a member of Wiki status==
{{Not|:category: Accessibility}}
{{Not|:category: Accessibility}}
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:''(imported from [[WikiIndex talk:Community portal]])''
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<blockquote>I think here is a change needed. A wiki could be dormant and private at the same time like [[Bible Wiki (BibleWiki.net)]].  Private belongs to another aspect similar to editmode.  One has to create the aspect "accessibility" or anything else.<br>{public|private|onInvitation|adult|legitimation|etc.} which defines the scope of onlookers not of editors. Naturally the scope of editmode is narrower than "accessibility" the mode nnames would have quite a cut set. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:01, 4 August 2014 (UTC)</blockquote>
<blockquote>I think here is a change needed. A wiki could be dormant and private at the same time like [[Bible Wiki (BibleWiki.net)]].  Private belongs to another aspect similar to editmode.  One has to create the aspect "accessibility" or anything else.<br>{public|private|onInvitation|adult|legitimation|etc.} which defines the scope of onlookers not of editors. Naturally the scope of editmode is narrower than "accessibility" the mode nnames would have quite a cut set. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:01, 4 August 2014 (UTC)</blockquote>


So basically, should [[:Category:Private]] remain a sub-category of [[:Category:Wiki Status]], or should Category:Private be a sub-cat of [[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode]] – or even both?  Manorainjan expresses good rationale for a change, and I'm inclined to support him.  Another example which lends support for change, is that a wiki can be private, but can also have viggorous activity – which might place it in the [[:Category:Vibrant]] sub-cat of Wiki Status.  I think if we do move Category:Private under the Category:Wiki Edit Mode umbrella, then it could even be a sub-cat of [[:Category:ByInvitation]]?
So basically, should [[:Category:Private]] remain a sub-category of [[:Category:Wiki status]], or should Category:Private be a sub-cat of [[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode]] – or even both?  Manorainjan expresses good rationale for a change, and I'm inclined to support him.  Another example which lends support for change, is that a wiki can be private, but can also have viggorous activity – which might place it in the [[:Category:Vibrant]] sub-cat of Wiki status.  I think if we do move Category:Private under the Category:Wiki Edit Mode umbrella, then it could even be a sub-cat of [[:Category:ByInvitation]]?


Discussions and opinions needed, please!  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:25, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Discussions and opinions needed, please!  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:25, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
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#How should dead or private Wikis be listed; shall they 'disturb'/mix with the listings of active/accessible Wikis?   
#How should dead or private Wikis be listed; shall they 'disturb'/mix with the listings of active/accessible Wikis?   


I see the discussion as mixed up on both topics which does not allow for solution. therefore I suggest to solve question 1 first and then try for question 2 which in my opinion calls for another kind of [[:Category:Wiki Status|Wiki-Status]] possibly called 'Category:Wiki Accessibility' [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 16:23, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
I see the discussion as mixed up on both topics which does not allow for solution. therefore I suggest to solve question 1 first and then try for question 2 which in my opinion calls for another kind of [[:Category:Wiki status|Wiki-Status]] possibly called 'Category:Wiki Accessibility' [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 16:23, 12 August 2014 (UTC)


:My inclination is that the designation "Private" has more to do with a wiki's [[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode|EditMode]] than it does with a wiki's Status. I don't think a new "Accessibility" class of categories is needed. That's pretty much what "EditMode" is already. I am in favor is making "Private" one of the options for "EditMode". I suppose the clarification which would need to be made the difference between "[[:Category:ByInvitation|ByInvitation]]" and "Private." To my mind, the former indicates that you could ostensibly obtain an invitation whereas the latter would be reserved for those which are closed to new participants. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] ([[User talk:MarvelZuvembie|talk]]) 23:34, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
:My inclination is that the designation "Private" has more to do with a wiki's [[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode|EditMode]] than it does with a wiki's Status. I don't think a new "Accessibility" class of categories is needed. That's pretty much what "EditMode" is already. I am in favor is making "Private" one of the options for "EditMode". I suppose the clarification which would need to be made the difference between "[[:Category:ByInvitation|ByInvitation]]" and "Private." To my mind, the former indicates that you could ostensibly obtain an invitation whereas the latter would be reserved for those which are closed to new participants. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] ([[User talk:MarvelZuvembie|talk]]) 23:34, 13 August 2014 (UTC)


==Overview==
==Overview==
I'm trying to show here in a table how Wiki Status relates to Edit Mode and other corresponding categorisations
I'm trying to show here in a table how Wiki status relates to Edit Mode and other corresponding categorisations
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{|class=wikitable
!progress* / status°||edit mode||account mode*||view mode*||connect mode*
!progress* / status°||edit mode||account mode*||view mode*||connect mode*
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{|class="wikitable mw-collapsible" style="margin:0 0 0 0; padding:0px; width:100%; font-size:96%"
{|class="wikitable mw-collapsible" style="margin:0 0 0 0; padding:0px; width:100%; font-size:96%"
!colspan=11|<span style=font-size:22px>[[:Category:Wiki Status|Wiki Status]] [[Template:WikiStatus|comparison table]]</span><br><span style=font-size:12px>''click on the individual links in the coloured left column for a fuller detail of each status [[Special:Categories|category]]''<br>(scroll down past the table to see the list of [[wiki]]s in each category, click on <nowiki>[Collapse]</nowiki> at the top right to hide this table)</span>
!colspan=11|<span style=font-size:22px>[[:Category:Wiki status|Wiki status]] [[Template:WikiStatus|comparison table]]</span><br><span style=font-size:12px>''click on the individual links in the coloured left column for a fuller detail of each status [[Special:Categories|category]]''<br>(scroll down past the table to see the list of [[wiki]]s in each category, click on <nowiki>[Collapse]</nowiki> at the top right to hide this table)</span>
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!width= 8% style=background:#acc|[[:Category:All|wiki]] [[:Category:Wiki Status|status]]<br>name
!width= 8% style=background:#acc|[[:Category:All|wiki]] [[:Category:Wiki status|status]]<br>name
!width= 9% style=background:#acc|description<br>([[:Category:Wiki English|en]])
!width= 9% style=background:#acc|description<br>([[:Category:Wiki English|en]])
!width=11% style=background:#acc|description<br>([[:Category:Wiki French|fr]])
!width=11% style=background:#acc|description<br>([[:Category:Wiki French|fr]])