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:::::I suppose you mean someone who isn't a RW regular. Well I hadn't seen it before, but in PC's defense, she didn't actually block, but it suggests that she may have before for something that minor. You could direct us to the evidence. Like [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page= the block log] and the blocks that you feel are illegitimate. I'm pretty exhausted at the moment so I may be able to convince myself to go to bed now. I'm not saying she is a bad sysop until some editors are actually willing to establish a [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines|policy]] and we see if she and they will adhere to that. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:57, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::I suppose you mean someone who isn't a RW regular. Well I hadn't seen it before, but in PC's defense, she didn't actually block, but it suggests that she may have before for something that minor. You could direct us to the evidence. Like [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page= the block log] and the blocks that you feel are illegitimate. I'm pretty exhausted at the moment so I may be able to convince myself to go to bed now. I'm not saying she is a bad sysop until some editors are actually willing to establish a [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines|policy]] and we see if she and they will adhere to that. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:57, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
::::::She blocked [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Proxima+Centauri&page=User%3ANx Nx] for changing the RationalWiki article to remove advertisements for Liberapedia, two conflicting incorrect dates and various erroneous statements, like the thing about the backups. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 04:13, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
::::::She blocked [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Proxima+Centauri&page=User%3ANx Nx] for changing the RationalWiki article to remove advertisements for Liberapedia, two conflicting incorrect dates and various erroneous statements, like the thing about the backups. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 04:13, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
(I've already written the following but I really have no idea whether this is supposed to be a consensus based wiki or not. I suppose I may have to go around asking all the administrators if they would support petitions, consensus, etc, but we can't really assume they will. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:55, 30 August 2009 (EDT) )
Okay, Phantom Hoover. These are a few approaches I ([[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]]) would suggest for you, (this method can be applied to any policy anyone wants to establish):
::Write a "notablity" criteria [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines#Notablity|here]]. Now or later, you might post (on Liberpedia's talk page) an explanation of how Liberpedia fails to meet this criteria, while the other similar wikis do not. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:55, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
::Alternatively/additionally you might make a policy regarding administrators with conflicts of interest. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:55, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
:Next make these into a petitions which are subpages of the policy page, for example, [[WikiIndex:Notablity/Links_to_similar_wikis_petitions]] or [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines/Administers_with_conflicts_of_interest_petitions]]. Have any supporters leave their dated signature on the petition. It may contain more than one proposal, even conflicting proposals but at some point all signatures should be updated to the latest version of the petition and it should no longer be edited after that. These petitions are to be used as guides/justifications for the policy pages, which should remain [[OpenEdit]] IMO. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:55, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
:[https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Canvas Canvas] to rally community support for your policy, to prove its worth. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:55, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
:If a sysop does not abide by this policy in the future, follow [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines#Suggested_requests|these instructions for making an request of enforcement of policy]]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:55, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
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