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:::::::::This is how Wikipedia defined neutrality on that link I posted "The neutral point of view is a means of dealing with conflicting perspectives on a topic as evidenced by reliable sources. It requires that where multiple perspectives on a topic have been published by reliable sources, all majority- and significant-minority views must be presented fairly, in a disinterested tone, and in rough proportion to their prevalence within the source material." I don't image you perceive creationists as having reliable sources, but the question is does RationalWiki use reliable sources? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:44, 31 August 2009 (EDT) | :::::::::This is how Wikipedia defined neutrality on that link I posted "The neutral point of view is a means of dealing with conflicting perspectives on a topic as evidenced by reliable sources. It requires that where multiple perspectives on a topic have been published by reliable sources, all majority- and significant-minority views must be presented fairly, in a disinterested tone, and in rough proportion to their prevalence within the source material." I don't image you perceive creationists as having reliable sources, but the question is does RationalWiki use reliable sources? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:44, 31 August 2009 (EDT) | ||
:::::::::Perhaps the difference is rather what you consider notable. Where Wikipedia would simply not allow something to be included (due to lack of reliable source), RW would still consider it notable. So Wikipedia has nothing to "refute" in that case because it just deletes it. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:54, 31 August 2009 (EDT) | :::::::::Perhaps the difference is rather what you consider notable. Where Wikipedia would simply not allow something to be included (due to lack of reliable source), RW would still consider it notable. So Wikipedia has nothing to "refute" in that case because it just deletes it. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:54, 31 August 2009 (EDT) | ||
:::::::::::No, it's not (just) notability, and it's not just the satire (or snark, as we like to call it), though RW contains articles on things that WP would deem non-notable, and snark is an important ingredient in a good RW article. The main point is that while WP does not take sides (in your quote: present all views fairly), RW refutes anti-science, i.e. it takes the side of science. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 17:11, 31 August 2009 (EDT) | |||
:::::::::The Existence of God article has arguments [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Existence_of_God#Arguments_against_the_existence_of_God against the existence of God], if you click any one of the arguments for God you will find more refutations along side the arguments for. Tell me this, do you know of any argument that is represented in RationalWiki but not Wikipedia? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:59, 31 August 2009 (EDT) | :::::::::The Existence of God article has arguments [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Existence_of_God#Arguments_against_the_existence_of_God against the existence of God], if you click any one of the arguments for God you will find more refutations along side the arguments for. Tell me this, do you know of any argument that is represented in RationalWiki but not Wikipedia? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:59, 31 August 2009 (EDT) | ||
::::::::::I can't tell, but I'm pretty sure that Wikipedia does not say that God does not exist. You missed my point [[User:Nx|Nx]] 17:11, 31 August 2009 (EDT) | |||
::What is the problem with merging the old CP article into Wikipedia? Lack of sources? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 15:04, 31 August 2009 (EDT) | ::What is the problem with merging the old CP article into Wikipedia? Lack of sources? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 15:04, 31 August 2009 (EDT) | ||
:::What old CP article? [[User:Nx|Nx]] 15:14, 31 August 2009 (EDT) | :::What old CP article? [[User:Nx|Nx]] 15:14, 31 August 2009 (EDT) | ||
::::Sorry I misread. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 15:39, 31 August 2009 (EDT) | ::::Sorry I misread. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 15:39, 31 August 2009 (EDT) | ||