Talk:RationalWiki (en)/Archive2: Difference between revisions

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::::::::::::::::::::Wikipedia cannot achieve the stated goals of RW because of its NPOV policy. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 05:38, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::::::Wikipedia cannot achieve the stated goals of RW because of its NPOV policy. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 05:38, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
Okay (I'm just going to stop indenting at this point although I am replying to Nx.) Can we analyze your claim that, "Wikipedia cannot achieve the stated goals of RW because of its NPOV"? I think it plausible that Wikipedia's policy of requiring reliable sources (which is the main aspect of [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral NPOV] that matters here) is '''more effective''' at, "analyzing and refuting the anti-science movement, ideas and people." In other words, providing evidence rather then someone simply telling you what they think the truth is. Do you find this to be a plausible theory? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:43, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
Okay (I'm just going to stop indenting at this point although I am replying to Nx.) Can we analyze your claim that, "Wikipedia cannot achieve the stated goals of RW because of its NPOV"? I think it plausible that Wikipedia's policy of requiring reliable sources (which is the main aspect of [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral NPOV] that matters here) is '''more effective''' at, "analyzing and refuting the anti-science movement, ideas and people." In other words, providing evidence rather then someone simply telling you what they think the truth is. Do you find this to be a plausible theory? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:43, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
:(it's called undenting, and it's normal in wiki discussions) This has nothing to do with reliable sources. RationalWiki also references its claims. But that's not the point. The point is that NPOV requires all sides to be presented fairly, and that the article take no side. RW does take a side. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 08:00, 1 September 2009 (EDT)


===An <del>very rare</del> example of Lumenos misunderstanding===
===An <del>very rare</del> example of Lumenos misunderstanding===
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