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Hello again, I'm writing in reference to your recent edit of the [[RationalWiki]] article, wherein you removed the link to the following argument. "[[Talk:RationalWiki#Criticism_and_rebuttals|Wikipedia achieves the stated goals of RationalWiki better than RationalWiki does]]". Your edit summary was, "11:08, 1 September 2009 [...] (Lumenos, please whine on the talk page.)" <del>Did you read the argument?</del> [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 10:04, 1 September 2009 (EDT) | Hello again, I'm writing in reference to your recent edit of the [[RationalWiki]] article, wherein you removed the link to the following argument. "[[Talk:RationalWiki#Criticism_and_rebuttals|Wikipedia achieves the stated goals of RationalWiki better than RationalWiki does]]". Your edit summary was, "11:08, 1 September 2009 [...] (Lumenos, please whine on the talk page.)" <del>Did you read the argument?</del> [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 10:04, 1 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
:I'm sorry, I found that you had in fact replied, but due to the location (and the general disorganization of talk pages) I neglected to notice it until now. I have answered your rebuttal and I will give you some time to formulate a response (if you should wish to do so) before possibly adding the comment back. [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines#How_sympathetic_or_critical.3F_.28Who_decides.3F.29|Consensus on this matter seems to be <del>favoring the creation of separate articles for Constructive Criticism (although where the links to these articles may be is less clear</del>)]][Well just read the link.]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:13, 3 September 2009 (EDT) | :I'm sorry, I found that you had in fact replied, but due to the location (and the general disorganization of talk pages) I neglected to notice it until now. I have answered your rebuttal and I will give you some time to formulate a response (if you should wish to do so) before possibly adding the comment back. [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines#How_sympathetic_or_critical.3F_.28Who_decides.3F.29|Consensus on this matter seems to be <del>favoring the creation of separate articles for Constructive Criticism (although where the links to these articles may be is less clear</del>)]][Well just read the link.]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:13, 3 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
::"Consensus" is you and Proxima agreeing? Also, you completely ignored and failed to understand the responses to your bizarre WP vs RW thesis. Also, why don't you respond to comments where they are made? | ::"Consensus" is you and Proxima agreeing? Also, you completely ignored and failed to understand the responses to your bizarre WP vs RW thesis. Also, why don't you respond to comments where they are made? [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 00:50, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
:::It '''seemed''' like Dilley might favor it, but I should obviously take into account the editors edits and not just the policy page when making determinations about consensus. So I apologize for that. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 11:51, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | :::It '''seemed''' like Dilley might favor it, but I should obviously take into account the editors edits and not just the policy page when making determinations about consensus. So I apologize for that. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 11:51, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
:::Why do I quote? I find it keeps things better organized. Your idea of not quoting, has merit. I do appreciate that you allow me to decide where we will be having discussions. Face it Powell, resistance is futile. All will be assimilated into the [http://lumeniki.referata.com/wiki/Lumenati Lumenati] hive mind! ;-) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 09:38, 5 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
:::On my RW vs WP thesis: You mean how I told you I favor your description of the wiki over that of your authorities there? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 09:38, 5 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
Secondly, if you have any suggestions for why [[WikiIndex]] should not allow certain criticisms, or how to objectively judge which ones should or should not be allowed, your reasoning on this matter would be appreciated in [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines#How_sympathetic_or_critical.3F_.28Who_decides.3F.29|this section of the policy page]]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 10:03, 1 September 2009 (EDT) | Secondly, if you have any suggestions for why [[WikiIndex]] should not allow certain criticisms, or how to objectively judge which ones should or should not be allowed, your reasoning on this matter would be appreciated in [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines#How_sympathetic_or_critical.3F_.28Who_decides.3F.29|this section of the policy page]]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 10:03, 1 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
:Yeah, quit with your power grab. You've made up some lame policy page with virtually no input from the site's owners, and it's barely readable. You fail at "wiki discussion". [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 00:50, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | :Yeah, quit with your power grab. You've made up some lame policy page with virtually no input from the site's owners, and it's barely readable. You fail at "wiki discussion". [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 00:50, 4 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
::How could I "grab" power? How do you feel about basic democratic ideals such as rule by law, equal protection under the law, and separation of power? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 09:38, 5 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
::You noticed it is not really a policy page? There isn't any. So it is a policy development page and a page that links to what clues I could find (without bothering anyone) about what to expect from the administration. That is all we have so far. [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines#Notes_to_editors_of_this_page|Dilley seems okay with having it here so long as it is not in a "neutral point of view". So we changed that]]. If it causes some problem, I will adapt it for [[Lumeniki]] and that's that. Is the power of suggestion really so threatening to you? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 09:38, 5 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
==My "agenda"== | ==My "agenda"== |
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