Editing WikiIndex:2013-2014 bugs and upgrades

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'''WikiIndex:Upgrades needed''' — this page is to be used for raising suggestions and discussing strategies for upgrading our [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] software used by [[WikiIndex]].  It can typically include any of the published, and stable, [[mw:Manual:Extensions|MediaWiki Extensions]]; or any other applicable and workable strategies.  Please add any suggestions or offerings in any of the subheadings below (or create a new subheading), and discuss.

==MediaWiki version==
; Need -  upgrade to [[mw:Download|1.20.4]] or 1.19 branch

Are we on the best version, would that be part of an update of extensions?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]

Right now (14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST)) WikiIndex is running MW 1.19.1; the newest stable version is 1.20.2 and 1.19.3 is the newest version of the 1.19.x branch. So yes, an upgrade could be nice. :) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST)

: Update: [[mw:Release notes/1.20|1.20.4]] is the very latest version, and [[mw:Release notes/1.19|1.19.5]] is the latest of the '1.19' branch.  1.19.5 seems to include a few security updates over our current version.  If you arn't inclined to go down the latest 1.20 version, then at least upgrade to 1.19.5  -- :)  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 12:28, 21 April 2013 (PDT)

:: Sean is correct &mdash; 1.20.4 is the latest stable release of MediaWiki (as of now; the [[mw:Download|Download page at MediaWiki.org]] has always the most up-to-date information about the latest stable release), and since WikiIndex's versions of PHP and MySQL are compatible with 1.20 branch, there's no need to be running the 1.19 branch and we should be able to safely upgrade to 1.20. Running the latest stable release is a good idea, not just in terms of features, but also in terms of security (although there haven't been any huge security flaws in MediaWiki recently, but still). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 06:44, 28 April 2013 (PDT)
::: Need a stronger user creation fix, the names created over the last hour is just absurd...I wonder if the captcha system is working or not..--[[User:Comets|Comets]] ([[User talk:Comets|talk]]) 21:41, 28 April 2013 (PDT)
:::: The CAPTCHA is showing up on the registration form, but given how simple the question is and that there seems to be only one (!) question, it's just a matter of time until spambots will work around it and human vandals apparently already have. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 08:10, 29 April 2013 (PDT)
::::: Jack, is their a way to have control put into our hands to add questions or change them when needed?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:::::: They just released another round of security patches, latest versions are MW 1.19.6 and 1.20.5. I was planning to test out 1.20.5, but if need be, I wouldn't mind setting up a test wiki to see how 1.19.6 functions, but the differences in both basically amount to closing a few security holes and not much else, as far as I can tell, and having run both 1.19 and 1.20 versions of MediaWiki, upgrading to 1.20 should be easy and break no features, and all of the extensions installed have working 1.20 equivalents (most of which I have tested) that should be stable in a production enviroment wiki. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 16:58, 30 April 2013 (PDT)Arcane
::::::: Arcane, do you think it is ok to just test out 1.20.5?  (if that is what you are suggesting?  and test it out with WikiIndex data?  sorry, not so knowledgable!!)  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:::::::: If you have a XML/SQL dump of the data, I could easily setup a test wiki with the same extensions and a database dump and see if anything breaks. In fact, you could do the same thing yourself by setting up a second wiki install and using a spare copy of the data from the WikiIndex database on a localhost wiki (offline, I recommend using XAMPP). You may have to reimport your Main Page and sidebar settings if you do this, but it's easy to do. Alternatively, another option you can do is to make a copy of EVERYTHING in your mysql/data folder and your MediaWiki install (I'd save it to a portable drive, backup hard drive, and so on, in a compressed file format if possible, also make sure the database is not being used during this time, which means taking the site down for maintenance), then install a new version of MediaWiki over your old one. At best, everything will work fine and you can proceed as normal (you may need to upgrade some extensions), and at worst, just flush your mediawiki folder and the mysql/data folder and replace them with your saved versions, and it will be exactly as it was before, minus any alterations to the new wiki database.  [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 21:42, 30 April 2013 (PDT)Arcane
::::::::: I could do that without XMAPP by using Ubuntu, just like this wiki ([[Special:Version]]), and I have succeeded setting up a wiki in version 1.20.3 and upgrade it to version 1.22alpha (from git). (Sadly, I can't let you see since it ran on the local domain) So I think I could take this job. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  22:10, 30 April 2013 (PDT)
:::::::::: Upgrades from a minor version (like 1.20.0) to a different, newer ''minor'' version (like 1.20.5) are '''not''' problematic and generally speaking require very little thinking &mdash; just do it and it'll go fine. :-) The same is not true for major version changes (like upgrading from 1.20 to 1.21 or so), as then there'd be schema changes and other issues to sort out, at least usually.<br />@Mark: I spoke with [[User:Emufarmers|Emufarmers]] about QuestyCaptcha and improvements for it a few weeks ago. We both agreed that having a special page for adding/modifying/deleting CAPTCHA questions would be essential to have to improve the usability of the extension. He mentioned having written some code for an administration special page, but I don't know what's the current state of that project; what works, what doesn't, what hasn't been implemented, etc. but I can try to ask him for an update. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 08:53, 2 May 2013 (PDT)
::::::::::: Thanks for checking into that Jack - it seems like that would be pretty helpful for lots of wiki communities!  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
::::::::::::If we could somehow run http://wikiindex.org/maintenance/DumpBackup.php (See [[mw:Manual:DumpBackup.php]]), it would be very easy to get a database dump. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  00:42, 4 May 2013 (PDT)
:Why not stick to the 1.19.x branch? This is a long term support until May 2015. Then WikiIndex could be upgraded to the next LTS 1.23.x --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Kghbln|talk]]) 14:19, 3 May 2013 (PDT)
::Good question in need of a good answer!  What, specifically does the 1.20 branch offer over and above the 1.19 branch?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 06:14, 4 May 2013 (PDT)
:::New diff view, new special page, new magic word (not so important)... (See [[mw:MediaWiki 1.20]]) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  06:50, 4 May 2013 (PDT)

== Images ==
# Favicon - [[File:WI Favicon.png]] 
# http://wikiapiary.com/w/images/wikiapiary/b/b4/Monitored_by_WikiApiary.png — [http://WikiApiary.com/wiki/WikiApiary:Monitored_by WikiApiary:Monitored by]
#* Why???
#** To show that WikiIndex in on board!? --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Kghbln|talk]]) 14:11, 3 May 2013 (PDT)
# We need a mini-banner like that WikiApiary which states something like "Indexed on WikiIndex" - to be used as a kind of voluntary banner exchange on other sites which we've indexed.  (good idea ~~ [[MarkDilley]])
#* I think [[WikiApiary]] is a very similar project as [[WikiIndex]] and has a couple people working on it that are in the wiki community.  Was just a suggestion - we linked to [[Wiki101]] in sidebar for same reason. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
#** WikiApiary is focused on MediaWiki and it's technical aspects. WikiIndex is focused on wiki communities. I do not think that is too similar. However, a WikiIndex banner would be nice to have, too. --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Kghbln|talk]]) 14:11, 3 May 2013 (PDT)

== LinkSpam / WikiSpam / Vandalism ==
; Need -
# [[mw:Extension:AbuseFilter]] — ''Pro:'' as discussed [[User talk:Elassint#Spammers - and new account names|here]] and [[Jack]] suggested using this. - ''Con:'' needs [[mw:Extension:AntiSpoof]] (which we don't currently have)
##AntiSpoof is a very useful extension to install, too, so it's hardly a ''con'', more like a ''pro''. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 06:44, 28 April 2013 (PDT)
##+ from me --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Kghbln|talk]]) 14:22, 3 May 2013 (PDT)
### [[mw:Extension:AntiSpoof]] — ''Pro:'' we need this if we also want [[mw:Extension:AbuseFilter]]
# [[mw:Extension:SimpleAntiSpam]] — ''Pro:'' [[Jack]] suggested using this
##+ from me --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Kghbln|talk]]) 14:22, 3 May 2013 (PDT)
# [[mw:Extension:CheckUser]] — ''Pro:'' used for checking IP addresses - ''Con:'' Any?
## It's beyond me how come, as of 2013 (sic), CheckUser ''still'' isn't a part of MediaWiki core; and why on Earth isn't this extension installed on WikiIndex already?! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST)
##I think it is really important, since some admins spend almost a whole day blocking new accounts. --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 02:45, 13 April 2013 (PDT)
##This would be very useful. The only arguments I've seen against CheckUser over the years are about privacy of legitimate users being compromised by snooping admins, but there's no reason for use to do that. Besides, that spammer who likes to create a giant cluster of accounts could theoretically be using a single IP address. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]'''  3 May 2013
# [[mw:Extension:NoBogusUserpages]] — ''Pro:'' - would obviate the need to police User: (IP address) pages since they cannot be created by anyone except the legitimate user of the IP - ''Con'' - would not stop spammer from posting spam on the User IP page if that is their actual IP.
##Spambots aren't (thankfully) very intelligent; usually they create a (bogus) User: page and a main namespace with the same title, i.e. <code>User:FooBar123</code> and <code>FooBar123</code>. In my experience, this type of spam is commonly done by IP addresses as opposed to registered users. As such, installing the NoBogusUserpages extension would cut down this type of spam by 50%, which isn't a bad rate at all. The code is simple enough that it should work even with the latest version of MediaWiki. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 06:44, 28 April 2013 (PDT)
##+ from me --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Kghbln|talk]]) 14:22, 3 May 2013 (PDT)
# [[mw:Extension:Nuke]] — ''Pro:'' allows sysops to delete numerous pages as one - ''Con:'' Not necessary, since those spams are from different usernames and IPs. --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 21:29, 13 April 2013 (PDT) - so I will strike this if this is correct.
##Comment: can't agree [[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] - we have had many instances in the past where certain prolific religious spammers create masses of pages from one user account (though I accept we ''seem'' to have this under control at the moment).  Just because we have a particular extension installed, it doesn't mean we have to actually use it!  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 01:49, 22 April 2013 (PDT)
###Definitely install Nuke, just like with the CheckUser extension, there shouldn't be any discussion or debate about this. It's a very useful extension for deleting spam, vandalism and just misguided humans' creations. Sure, it's not useful for each and every spam case, but it definitely helps us humans to focus on the content creation instead of just cleaning up after spambots. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 06:44, 28 April 2013 (PDT)
####+ from me --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Kghbln|talk]]) 14:22, 3 May 2013 (PDT)

; Want -

==Account creation protection==
; Need -
# [[mw:Extension:TitleBlacklist]] — ''Pro:'' can be used to stop spambots from creating accounts – ''Con:'' looks complicated
## + from me. Allows to use foreign Blacklists. It is just a matter of configuration. No explicit need to have an additional blacklist here. --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Kghbln|talk]]) 14:33, 3 May 2013 (PDT)
# [[mw:Extension:Renameuser]] — ''Pro:'' allows people who registered under an alias to have account changed to [[RealName]] and maintain edit histories – ''Con:'' none
##Can't wait for this to be installed so I can finally rename myself. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]'''  3 May 2013
## + from me --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Kghbln|talk]]) 14:33, 3 May 2013 (PDT)
# [[mw:Extension:User Merge and Delete]] — ''Pro:'' Rename changes the name of one account, whereas this can merge or combine two accounts into one, and deletes the account not needed.   – ''Con:'' Very dangerous, can permanently delete user accounts'' (but this can be set for 'crat permission only)
## ''Pro:'' I've used it on my own localhost wiki to get rid of surplus test accounts when testing out extensions, and while the danger of screwing up an actual account is real, it could be used to trim the database of obvious spam accounts. ''Con'': Cannot be done as a batch, must do one merge and delete job at a time. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 05:34, 30 April 2013 (PDT)Arcane  - so basically you are saying we could clean up the spam accounts by deleting the one at a time? ~~ [[MarkDilley]] - Yes, unfortunately. It may be possible to code a bot or script with a selected list of spam accounts to trim and execute this script multiple times, never tried it myself, but in-wiki, it only works one at a time. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 14:10, 30 April 2013 (PDT)Arcane  - ''sounds brilliant, with the bot thing :-) I could see one person having control over a bot and a list. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]''
##I'm personally still skeptical about this one. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]'''  3 May 2013
### Please say more [[Elassint]] - is it not a worry to have spam accounts sitting in the database?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]

; Want -
# <s>[[mw:Extension:ConfirmAccount]]</s> — ''Pro:'' can be used to stop spambots from creating accounts, think of this ethos of having a door bouncer on guard at a nightclub – ''Con:'' needs active Sysops/Bureaucrats to monitor new account requests (but surely it is better to prevent trouble, rather than letting everyone in, and then stopping the mess and clearing up spam and vandalism) [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 01:48, 15 March 2013 (PDT)
## '''Question:''' can this be toggled on and off? [[MarkDilley]]
### Don't think so.  The default config is for only Bureaucrats to control this, but permissions can also be granted to Sysops - so as long as we have a regular patrol of sysops - this should work well.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:01, 22 April 2013 (PDT)
#### So if not something sysops or bureaucrats can change, I want us to take the next smallest steps to trying to solve the problem and it feels like confirm edit is a big hammer, so I would like to try this after all these other extensions are tried. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
#####ConfirmAccount is useful for (semi-)private wikis, but I think it'd be overkill for WikiIndex and it's most likely repel plenty of new and eager human editors. Sure, it'd be effective in stopping spambots, but at what cost? --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 06:44, 28 April 2013 (PDT)

==General housekeeping==
; Need -
# Change default email for WikiIndex messages.  Right now it is it coming from John Stanton's personal email and he is not active here anymore.
##The associated global variable is [[mw:Manual:$wgPasswordSender|$wgPasswordSender]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 06:44, 28 April 2013 (PDT)
##I never got an e-mail from WikiIndex. Would be cool to have it working somehow. --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Kghbln|talk]]) 14:28, 3 May 2013 (PDT)
# [[mw:Extension:Admin Links]] — ''Pro:'' anything to help sysops has gotta be a bonus - ''Con:'' grumpy sysops if you don't :p
##+ from me --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Kghbln|talk]]) 14:28, 3 May 2013 (PDT)
#Change the default timestamp to UTC — ''Pro:'' the default for all MediaWiki edit operations is recorded in UTC, and WikiIndex ought to be a 'global' resource by aligning to UTC (and I don't understand why my timestamps have to display PDT????)  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 04:59, 22 April 2013 (PDT)
##strong + from me --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Kghbln|talk]]) 14:28, 3 May 2013 (PDT)

; Want -
# [[mw:Extension:WikiEditor]] — ''Pro'' - More user friendly editing interface, simpler to understand and has many features to assist inexperienced editors [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 15:17, 21 January 2013 (PST)Arcane
## I'm not sure if this is really needed.  And more importantly, is this compatible with Semantic MediaWiki?  Are there any SMW sites which use this?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:39, 22 April 2013 (PDT)
## As far as I know, it is compatible with Semantic MediaWiki, since I have tested SMW with multiple versions of this extension and found no problems. As for whether this is needed, I wouldn't call it absolutely essential, but for those who are not familiar with wikicode or more familiar with using programs like Wordpad, this is a good extension, since it simplifies much of the most common editing processes. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 18:35, 29 April 2013 (PDT)Arcane
### It is compatible with SMW. + from me --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Kghbln|talk]]) 14:28, 3 May 2013 (PDT)
# [[mw:Extension:Maps]] — ''Pro:'' this would be really good for our City-Wiki entries, uses maps from more than one source (Google, Yahoo, OpenStreetMaps, etc) 
##+ from me --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Kghbln|talk]]) 14:28, 3 May 2013 (PDT)
# [[mw:Extension:LastUserLogin]] — ''Pro:'' would let us know a person's activity and it helps people to see who is building WikiIndex.  - ''Con:'' Why?????  Either use [[Special:RecentChanges]], or if you want to watch a specific user, add them to your watchlist :/  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:39, 22 April 2013 (PDT)  <!--''Con:'' Any?--> [[Special:WhosOnline]] can be a replacement, but records within a day. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  02:38, 4 May 2013 (PDT)
# <s>[[mw:Extension:SpecialUserScore]]</s> — ''Pro:'' it just lists edit counts of people (something interesting for stats geeks) and it helps people to see who is building WikiIndex - ''Con:'' probably doesn't add any real value to WikiIndex
##IIRC this extension is rather server-heavy... --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 06:44, 28 April 2013 (PDT)
# <s>[[mw:Extension:Labeled Section Transclusion]]</s> — ''Pro:'' would help select a part to transclusion and we need it for the relationship among [[Template:Wiki]],[[Template:Wiki boilerplate]], [[Template:NewWiki boilerplate]], and [[Community Portal]].--[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 05:00, 13 April 2013 (PDT)   - ''Con:'' I'm not convinced.  This seems to work well on Wikipedia, which relies heavily on linking between articles.  Here on WikiIndex, we rarely link between articles, and [[Template:NewWiki boilerplate]] is obsolete (whichever 'boilerplate' is used, be they the [[Template:Wikia boilerplate|Wikia version]] or any of the language-specific versions, they all call on just one template - [[Template:Wiki]] to render the infobox).  So not needed.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:39, 22 April 2013 (PDT)
# <s>[[mw:Extension:NewUserMessage]]</s> — ''Pro:'' would automatcally place a welcome message.  - ''Con:''  The effort of personally welcoming someone is what builds community I think.  I am afraid that a robot generated welcome message would deter from a welcoming environment.  It certainly would place information on a person's talk page, not sure how valuable that is though.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
##No way.  If we as a community can't manage a personal welcome for the few genuine new users we get, then we should bury our collective heads in shame :-(((((  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:39, 22 April 2013 (PDT)
# <s>[[mw:Extension:CategoryTree]]</s> — ''Pro:''  this would be really helpful in seeing how our categories are constructed  - ''Con:''  IIRC CategoryTree is broken on the most recent version(s) of MediaWiki, as per [[mw:Extension talk:CategoryTree]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST)  - Check to see if still broken
##Sadly still seems to be broken.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:39, 22 April 2013 (PDT) - Strike because still broken. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
# <s>[[mw:Extension:Translate]]</s> — ''Pro:'' would help make this wiki open for all languages.  - ''Con:'' Any?
## Seems to be quite [[mw:Extension talk:Translate|buggy]].  The three sites which currently use it have far more active software developers that we do here at WikiIndex.  Whilst I agree with the ethos, I fear this may be more of a hassle and can of worms :(  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:39, 22 April 2013 (PDT) -- Strike because buggy. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
# <s>[[mw:Extension:IconLink]]</s> — ''Pro:'' as raised [[Talk:Welcome#Favicons|here]] - ''Con:''  The code could do with a bit of updating (and preferrably a security review, too). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST)  - Striking out because we don't have capacity to update code or do a security review. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
# <s>[[mw:Extension:FaviconLink]]</s> — ''Pro:''  - ''Con:'' The code is a mess and in the past, there was a XSS vulnerability in it. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST) Striking out because we don't have capacity to update code or do a security review. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]

== Bugs ==
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# [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean]] can not get his email confirmed, this has happened to a few people.
# Why are Sysops blocked by our anti-spam tools, but new accounts able to over-ride them at will? [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:42, 22 April 2013 (PDT)
## I'm not sure about the first question, but I noticed that most spammers come from China (See [[User:Zhuyifei1999/Spam IP List]]). We use dynamic IPs in China, so it's hard to block them unless you use range blocks. --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 04:05, 22 April 2013 (PDT)
### Do we know what might be the issue here?  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
# Sometimes people get their sidebar reset to MediaWiki standard.  I have had it happen myself just recently as well.  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
## This is most apparent between when you are logged in or logged out.  I don't think it is specific to any browser - I use either IE8, Firefox, Chrome or Maxthon 3 - and they all do it. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 03:49, 20 March 2013 (PDT)
##It's a (mem)cache failure usually, I believe. Maybe someone should look into WikiIndex's caching setup and see if there's a way to make it more robust. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 06:44, 28 April 2013 (PDT)

; Want -sure about

# Atom feed (on Android devices) - seems to lag a few 'edits' behind current desktop version.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 03:49, 20 March 2013 (PDT)
# what to do with [[My spam blacklist]] not working... it seems this ''is'' working again :/  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 03:43, 20 March 2013 (PDT)
# From [[John Vandenberg]]: These emails are saying the server is localhost
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From: MediaWiki Mail <jrs.oregon@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:48 AM
Subject: ThinkiWiki at WikiIndex has been changed by Hoof Hearted
To: Jayvdb 

Dear Jayvdb,

The WikiIndex page ThinkiWiki has been changed on 12 March 2013 by Hoof Hearted, see http://localhost/ThinkiWiki for the current revision.

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Editor's summary: Text replace - "{{tag|Open Source}}" to "{{tag|open source}}" This is a minor edit

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##This is fixed for now. --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 03:50, 22 April 2013 (PDT)
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Subject: User talk:Zhuyifei1999 at WikiIndex has been changed by Hoof Hearted
Dear Zhuyifei1999,


The WikiIndex page User talk:Zhuyifei1999 has been changed on
14 April 2013 by Hoof Hearted, see
http://wikiindex.org/User_talk:Zhuyifei1999 for the current revision.

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for all changes since your last visit.

Editor's summary: /* Redirects */ new section 

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== On the back-burner ==
This sub-section can be used making suggestions for beta extensions, ie, those we might like to add at a later date once they've evolved into a stable extension
# <s>[[mw:Extension:MassEditRegex]]</s> — ''Pro:'' can be used by Sysops for 'bot'-like edits, without the need for creating bot scripts - ''Con:'' still in beta phase
## The extension status (alpha/beta/stable) means very little in reality...installing and testing it is a better way to see whether it works on WikiIndex's version of MediaWiki. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 14:41, 22 December 2012 (PST)
## I can vouch for this. I've used the MassEditRegex extension on my own wiki repeatedly and it has proven quite stable and does what it is intended to do. I highly recommend it. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 12:43, 25 January 2013 (PST)Arcane
## Issue is we don't have a dedicated back end developer to work on WikiIndex, know anyone who can? :-)  So I say strike out for now.


== Technology via the community ==
This isn't the right section title, but what I am trying to get across is - what technology does the community a) need to have access to, to make WikiIndex even better.  b) who here has skills / time / interest to do the backend work needed?

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