Editing WikiIndex talk:Deleting pages (section)

==Shared deletion==
I suggest, that an [[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|administrator]] should normally not [[Special:Log/delete|delete]] a page directly. Ideally at least two wiki [[user]]s should be involved. Of course, if pages contain ''obviously'' nothing but [[spam]], then the deletion discussion may be skipped (? - you know only admins can check, if a page contained only spam, if it is already deleted)... Please let us know what we think about it. ''Wikily'' --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 03:31, 10 January 2012 (PST)
::If we go to that system, how do we note that an [[Admin]] or User agrees? Does this need another [[Special:Templates|Template]] or do we just make a note like: "Delete Agree - Tera" I think the process needs to be defined better? Also, if a user nominated a page for deletion, and tagged it, does that count as one of two users needed? As for blatant spam, that should be obvious by links or other such things on the page, so yes, no delay should occur in that case. [[User:TeraS|TeraS]] 09:52, 10 January 2012 (PST)
:::First, it's good that we come to this talk. Welcome Tera :-) I just wanted to prevent that admins delete pages that they dislike themselves. So if one admin thinks a page could be spam but isn't sure, he/she only tags it as to delete, and another admin deletes it then. The next problem is, that we discuss delete requests on the [[talk page]]s. These are normally deleted with its [[article]] page and then the discussion will be lost and no ordinary user can read ''why'' the article was deleted. So far this little thoughts from me. Of course, if there is a user who wants to keep an article, we have to discuss first (I've no idea how long this should last). Best, [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 12:03, 10 January 2012 (PST)

Do you Admins have your own private user area?  Maybe setup a deletion discussion area - maybe <tt>/deletion discussions</tt> - and create a sub-heading with a wikilink for each request.  Ideally, this should be done by an automated bot - but I know naff-all about them.  Anyway, this would maintain all discussions - even for those which are deleted.  Of course, this still wont stop differnces of opinion . . . . but I definately support the two-stage deletion, irrespective of weather it is a normal user or an Admin who makes the delete nomination. --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 12:22, 10 January 2012 (PST)
::::There is no admin area. Deletions are made as open as possible. As far as I remember, there were no lasting deletion disputes like in [[:Category:Wikipedia|WP]]. --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 13:14, 10 January 2012 (PST)
::I honestly haven't seen where an Admin has deleted a page out of spite or other personal concerns. Yes there have been some errors *raises hand* but other Admins have corrected those mistakes as needed. As for the bot and so on, I'll leave that discussion for Admin that have a better handle on that sort of thing as I can't answer to those ideas in an intelligent way. As for my personal opinion, if I see a tag of delete, I normally will check for spam links and so on, then what the subject is about, and then if the page meets WikiIndex's stated purpose. If it passes all of those points, then I remove the tag. If not, then I would delete it. Now, with the added antispam measures of late, we haven't been hit so much over the last while thankfully, so what we seem to be dealing with is past spam more than anything else with regards to deletions. That being said, I will agree that a two vote to delete system would be okay, but I think that if it is just a nominate, then first Admin to see removes, that might not accomplish anything of value as, really, it's what we have now more or less. Much to ponder... [[User:TeraS|TeraS]] 12:59, 10 January 2012 (PST)

Wonderful. I expected a discussion like this. Now let's wait a little (for objections) and then add this simple rule to [[WikiIndex:Deleting pages|our ''deleting policy'' page]]... Best, [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 13:11, 10 January 2012 (PST)

:That would be ''soooooo'' complex. If you require a bot, I can make one if that's not ''soooooo'' hard. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  10:47, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

::Why can't people who start fundamental discussions like this also see them through? [[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style=color:orange>Manorainjan</span>''']] 01:58, 3 August 2015 (PDT)