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It is unclear to what extent WikiIndex wants to allow site criticisms and hostile tagging. I'm watching and hopefully learning. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 14:24, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
It is unclear to what extent WikiIndex wants to allow site criticisms and hostile tagging. I'm watching and hopefully learning. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 14:24, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
:: 1. You do approve of his description, or you would have changed it. 2. Of course he is a pedophile, he promotes pedophilia. 3. Freedom is a double edged sword. Therefor when someone does something in the name of freedom it is not automatically good. 4. Child-molesting is literally taking control of a child and using it as a fucktoy, that is not freedom. period. 5. You have to understand something, from my point of view people like you and Leucosticte are the fanatics, who will stop at nothing to promote pedophilia, or in your case possibly a PC-worldview. 6. There is no hysteria about the issue of pedophilia, there are only sick people who want to molest children and they need to be stopped. 7. How should you deal with wiki's that promote pornographic, taboo and gore subjects? The first steps would be not allowing the makers of these sites to decide what terminologies should be used, secondly these wiki's should be described in a negative and moralizing light and thirdly, these wiki's should be separated from other wiki's as much as possible. 8. We are not vandals and trolls, in fact it would be better to describe someone like Leucosticte as a vandal and a troll, because he takes a concept with an enlightened goal (wikiindex), and makes it a portal for the promotion of child-rape. 9. You don't have to ban Leucosticte, just regulate what he writes, put a big flashing board on pedopages, don't allow him to place his wiki's in education categories for example, make sure that the descriptions are either negative or neutral, but never positive and supportive, mention that your wiki does not support his ideology.. etc. 10. I want to mention that is genuinely support wikiindex and I understand that you want to make this wiki broad and inclusive for the sake of knowledge, but - that does not mean that the inmates get to run the asylum, the doctors run the asylum and they desribe the world, not the inmates. --[[Special:Contributions/82.94.251.227|82.94.251.227]] 18:28, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

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Welcome to WikiIndex! We hope you will contribute much and well. You will probably want to read the help pages. Again, welcome and have fun! Koavf (talk) 21:20, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Disclosure

I came to Wikiindex because I was pointed here by Leucosticte. However, I'm not his meat puppet. I do not approve of his description of Nathania, as an example. Leucosticte is, however, not a pedophile, has not been charged with any sex crimes, but is a radical libertarian who tends to take up highly unpopular causes, in the name of freedom, and then he will present what are often rational arguments to be considered. He then appears to be advocating the cause.

Those attacking him here will continue unless stopped. They are truly fanatic, and they will attack anyone who simply tries to stop the attacks. On RationalWiki, for simply pointing out fact, with evidence, I was told to rape my kids. And I do have children, lots of them. And I'm in regular contact with the Department of Children and Families. The extremists within the anti-pedophilia movement openly state that "pedophiles" should be castrated, violently tortured and killed, and so should anyone who supports or defends them.

Nathan is right about one thing. Hysteria about this issue is rampant. It is obvious that some deep buttons are being pushed.

The question here is whether or not wikis regarding issues and containing advocacy that is widely considered horrific, inhuman, repulsive, something to be stamped out, should be covered here. And if so, how should they be handled? I'm obviously new here; however, I have long been interested in and involved in the wiki movement, I started my first wiki about a dozen years ago, and was on-line with the W.E.L.L in the 1980s. I do not necessarily have easy answers.

Whatever I'm doing here, I will stop doing on the request of any established editor, and would then consult site administration before proceeding.

The vandals and trolls (who may think of themselves as "defending children," but they are not, they are acting out their own hysteria, berserking) will attack, and it can be predicted to increase. That could be stopped by banning Leucosticte, but that would set a very poor precedent. Some of Leucosticte's work here may be unnecessarily provocative. He can be regulated. He is likely to respect that.

It is unclear to what extent WikiIndex wants to allow site criticisms and hostile tagging. I'm watching and hopefully learning. --Abd (talk) 14:24, 7 March 2014 (UTC)