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==Proposal 29-Jan-2006: New categories production==
#redirect [[:Category:Proposals]]
* We make the actual new cateogies after x time or x wiki fall into that category, pre-launch.  [[User:MarkDilley|MarkDilley]]
** Additional Categories.  I found that if you add an additional category to a page (see CodeBook and AddYourOwn) you must also add the category command somewhere on the page so that it also categorized the article properly.  I am concerned that this will be confusing to users, so for now, I am using this format to at least keep it all in one place: --[[User:Rathbone|Ray]] 17:04, 19 Jan 2006 (EST)
*** Ray, I know what you mean about the proper way to create new categories, but I'm not sure what you're saying about "this format."  Can you clarify, please?  [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 00:02, 18 Feb 2006 (EST)
* I think they way we're adding new wiki's is fine now, can we retire this proposal? --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 03:17, 23 Feb 2006 (EST)
** Is this proposal about when we create redlinked categories? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 17:27, 23 Feb 2006 (EST)
** Ray, what do you mean the "way we are adding new wikis is fine now" - I think it would be nice and clear to have a genderal agreement (guideline) that we are not filling out a category for one or two wiki. [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>
 
== Proposal 13-Feb-2006: Authentic language categories ==
* see [[:Category:Spanish]] discussion for more info/example.
 
== Proposal 13-Feb-2006: Image links ==
''moved from [[StartUp Issues]]'' [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:14, 18 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
* Map the WikiLogo to the Wiki_url, so as to have the additional link to their front page. [[User:MarkDilley|MarkDilley]]
** Does anyone think it would be a) a good idea to map the logo image in the template to wiki_URL = and b) is it even possible to do such a crazy thing? :-)  [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>
*** Have heard this is not with in the knowledge of us, if it is even possilbe.
 
The good thing about this proposal is that it doesn't matter when we do it, if we do it, since it'll just be a change to the template that won't need anything done to each wiki. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 13:04, 21 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
== Proposal 17-Feb-2006: ordering on this page ==
 
I re-ordered this page to put newest at the bottom to encourge us to deal with the older ones first, and move them off this page.  Also, don't know if you know about this feature, but there is a + item next to the "edit" link at the top of talk pages.  That feature adds a new section, without having to edit the whole page.  Since that new section goes at the bottom, this re-organization allows that feature to be used on this page. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:10, 18 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
* I think that the page should be added to the top, not withstanding the section editing function. It is more friendly to read new proposals at the top. [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>
** Mark, if this was moved to the archive in error, please move it back to the [[Proposals]] page so it can be further discussed.  I also invite you to go further in your reasoning as it's feeling like "because I said so" again.  [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 22:47, 19 Feb 2006 (EST)
*** Mark, tell us more why this is still active? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 13:06, 21 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
'''Yes''', and I propose that we make an area for the proposals we've moved off this list, perhaps "ProposalArchive" or something like that --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 18:40, 18 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
* ProposalArchive and [[Guidelines, agreed upon]] would be more specific to what happened to the ideas. [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>
** [[Guidelines]] will be sufficient for positive decisions, and [[ProposalArchive]] for history of all these conversations. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 13:06, 21 Feb 2006 (EST)
** I agree --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 03:20, 23 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
== Proposal 18-Feb-2006: EditModes ==
 
Please see [[Category talk:Wiki Edit Mode#current]] for a proposal to collape Censored, InvitationOnly, Membership, Subscription, RequestLogin and Restricted to ApprovalRequired or some other suitable name. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:23, 18 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
* I really like what's been proposed and what's being done here --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 03:21, 23 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
== Proposal 18-Feb-2006: License ==
 
I propose we drop the NC from the Creative Commons license. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 15:48, 18 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
: Can we discuss, I'm not sure I understand the rationale for this --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 18:38, 18 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
Yes, the NC means no one can use it on a site with adwords, nor can they publish in their print mag that they charge money for.  Why would we want to limit commercial use, as long as the share-alike is there and they have to give away their source, the NC is too harsh, and seperates us from a huge body of free material, like wikipedia. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 13:07, 21 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
* I think I understand most of that and am close to concurring.  I met with Lion today in Seattle and he also gave me a push in this direction.  I'm not sure I understand the last sentence about separating ourselves from Wikipedia tho? --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 03:25, 23 Feb 2006 (EST)
** Our work cannot be used on wikipedia and vice versa if we keep the nc.  In fact, if someone's got an nc in their own license, their stuff can't be used here at all either, because of our adwords. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 17:25, 23 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
* ok, John is making the change.
 
== Proposal 18-Feb-2006: 2006-02-18 Work in Progress ==
 
Let's revist what we're doing in each pass and re-do this sheet. --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 02:14, 19 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
== Proposal 19-Feb-2006: Wiki Engine Template ==
The basic article template "Wiki List" is being used for Engine category pages.  Almost all engines have a wiki, for example, MoinMoin has MoinMoinWiki.  In this case, there is a page for the wiki ([[MoinMoinWiki]]) as well as a page for the engine category ([[:category:MoinMoin]]).  I believe this is correct.  In the case of Lizzy, there is just a single page for both the wiki and the engine: ([[:category:Lizzy]]).  This creates a recursive situation where the article points to itself.  I'm not sure this is a big problem, but now would be a good time for us to establish consistent rules.
 
: Checkout [[UseModWiki]].  Mark and I have been working on his idea that the page for an engine has the template box for the wiki for that engine '''and''' the list of wikis using that engine down below.  I think we've learned a lot.  [[Lizzy]] is part of our experiment.  It's definitely time to get down to business documenting what we've learned and then decide how to proceed. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 15:57, 16 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
I'm still a bit confused, but recommend that perhaps we make a WikiEngine template to try to solve the problem? --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 23:02, 19 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
: We already have one [[Template:Wiki Engine]].  It's not that simple, however.  I'm not sure I understand it myself, to be honest.  Mark? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 13:10, 21 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
== Proposal 26-Feb-2006: Future linking ==
Specifically I am thinking about WikiNodes that need to be created.  But as a theoretical issue, I think it helps people to understand the whole internet could be wiki.  [http://wikinodes.wiki.taoriver.net/moin.cgi/WikiBardo WikiBardo] is along these lines. [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>
* examples:
** [[Upcoming.org_Community]]
** [[BaylesShanks]]

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