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==Spam filter help==
==Spam filter help==
You're a wizzo on MW - can you help me with a spam filter problem please?  I'm getting <code><nowiki>The following text is what triggered our spam filter: https://secure</nowiki></code> when trying to edit an article (though I thought that sysops should be able to automatically by-pass spam filters).  I've tried editing our [[MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist]], but without success.  Any clues?  TIA  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 12:04, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
You're a wizzo on MW - can you help me with a spam filter problem please?  I'm getting <code><nowiki>The following text is what triggered our spam filter: https://secure</nowiki></code> when trying to edit an article (though I thought that sysops should be able to automatically by-pass spam filters).  I've tried editing our [[MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist]], but without success.  Any clues?  TIA  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 12:04, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
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::YiFei, sorry for the late reply, the (non-secure) url is <tt><nowiki>http://secure.travellerspoint.com</nowiki></tt> - it is for the [[Travellerspoint]] wiki.
::YiFei, sorry for the late reply, the (non-secure) url is <tt><nowiki>http://secure.travellerspoint.com</nowiki></tt> - it is for the [[Travellerspoint]] wiki.
::Yikes - even the non-https url is blocked by the spam filter — <code><nowiki>The following text is what triggered our spam filter: http://secure</nowiki></code> – try using 'nowikii', hope I can save this edit!  Thanks in advance :))))  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:36, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
::Yikes - even the non-https url is blocked by the spam filter — <code><nowiki>The following text is what triggered our spam filter: http://secure</nowiki></code> – try using 'nowikii', hope I can save this edit!  Thanks in advance :))))  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:36, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
:::http://secure.travellerspoint.com is now [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?diff=177845 whitelisted]. The problem belongs to "cure" part, but I cannot find the cause easily in [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]] or [[meta-wiki:Spam_blacklist]] --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 14:16, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
:::http://secure.travellerspoint.com is now [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?diff=177845 whitelisted]. The problem belongs to "cure" part, but I cannot find the cause easily in [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]] or {{WMF-Meta|Spam blacklist}}  --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 14:16, 13 June 2014 (UTC)


==Article or cat?==
==Article or cat?==
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::I'm just wondering about the details of implementation. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 12:56, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
::I'm just wondering about the details of implementation. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 12:56, 30 August 2014 (UTC)


:: Did You miss his demonstration on what the Bot is about to do? [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/YiFeiBot&dir=prev&offset=20140820234012&limit=10&target=YiFeiBot 10 test edits]? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])
:: Did You miss his demonstration on what the Bot is about to do? [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/YiFeiBot&dir=prev&offset=20140820234012&limit=10&target=YiFeiBot 10 test edits]? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])
:::Why is it not using link= [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 14:18, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
:::Why is it not using link= [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 14:18, 30 August 2014 (UTC)


::: Please for clarity's sake give a full example of what You mean. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])
::: Please for clarity's sake give a full example of what You mean. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])
::::What if we did it like [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=AC%2FDC_Wiki&diff=181848&oldid=102236 this] instead? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 14:39, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
::::What if we did it like [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=AC%2FDC_Wiki&diff=181848&oldid=102236 this] instead? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 14:39, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
:::::I don't understand why you want to have the logo (which is uploaded here, and contains any necessary copyright or author info) link to the off-site wiki; when you have a clearly visible 'external link' right next to the logo?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:11, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
:::::I don't understand why you want to have the logo (which is uploaded here, and contains any necessary copyright or author info) link to the off-site wiki; when you have a clearly visible 'external link' right next to the logo?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:11, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
::::::What do you think the typical user would like or expect to happen when they click on a logo? You might be right, though; I notice that on Wikipedia, even on the main page, when you click an image it takes you to the image page, not the article that the image is about. On the other hand, if you click the logos at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page#Wikipedia.27s_sister_projects it takes you to the wiki, rather than the image page for the logo. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 14:19, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
::::::What do you think the typical user would like or expect to happen when they click on a logo? You might be right, though; I notice that on Wikipedia, even on the main page, when you click an image it takes you to the image page, not the article that the image is about. On the other hand, if you click the logos at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page#Wikipedia.27s_sister_projects it takes you to the wiki, rather than the image page for the logo. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 14:19, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
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On Wikipedia we can read: "Hypocrisy is the claim or pretense of holding beliefs, feelings, standards, qualities, opinions, behaviors, virtues, motivations, or other characteristics that one does not in actual fact hold. It is the practice of engaging in the same behavior or activity for which one criticizes another.[1][2] In Moral psychology, it is the failure to follow one’s own expressed moral rules and principles.[3]" In how far is Your behaviour different from that? Please elaborate that on the example that You speak of founding [[Inclupedia]] and in deed try Your best to erase all traces of Your former fiancée from all over the internet. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 10:54, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
On Wikipedia we can read: "Hypocrisy is the claim or pretense of holding beliefs, feelings, standards, qualities, opinions, behaviors, virtues, motivations, or other characteristics that one does not in actual fact hold. It is the practice of engaging in the same behavior or activity for which one criticizes another.[1][2] In Moral psychology, it is the failure to follow one’s own expressed moral rules and principles.[3]" In how far is Your behaviour different from that? Please elaborate that on the example that You speak of founding [[Inclupedia]] and in deed try Your best to erase all traces of Your former fiancée from all over the internet. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 10:54, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
:Even you [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Talk%3ATheshatteredpan.org&diff=182736&oldid=182734 agreed] to delete one of those pages. So why not the others? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 11:41, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
:Even you [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Talk%3ATheshatteredpan.org&diff=182736&oldid=182734 agreed] to delete one of those pages. So why not the others? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 11:41, 10 September 2014 (UTC)


Your argument is imagined. I did not agree. My conclusion there was and is: "Therefore my call is for hiding this entry until verified contact was made to her and her own intentions about this entry are known". Prior I said "Therefore I could see it as in the interest of the original author (Augustine) that those results of the breaches would be removed." I'm not surprised that You count that as agreement to delete. I wonder what she told You when You 'asked' her if the unpermitted publishing of her striptease would be ok? Maybe she answered like: "I think it is not so bad." But surely You can not remember the wording now any more, like all the unpleasant stuff. I used conditional. Conditional is not a yes. Conditional is clearly and unmistakeably a 'no', until the condition is met. The condition is not yet met. And even if the condition is met, it is not automatically a 'yes' until the condition is clearly defined as the only condition. I thought You are kind of fit in programming. But that has shown as a wrong supposition.  Now, what I was insinuating under the not yet met condition, was not the deletion of the page, it was my sympathetic feelings for 'them' or their supposed (not actual) intention: "see it as in the interest of the original author (Augustine)". To call this my agreement is far from being true. Maybe You got too much experience with persuasion that You can see clearly any more? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])
Your argument is imagined. I did not agree. My conclusion there was and is: "Therefore my call is for hiding this entry until verified contact was made to her and her own intentions about this entry are known". Prior I said "Therefore I could see it as in the interest of the original author (Augustine) that those results of the breaches would be removed." I'm not surprised that You count that as agreement to delete. I wonder what she told You when You 'asked' her if the unpermitted publishing of her striptease would be ok? Maybe she answered like: "I think it is not so bad." But surely You can not remember the wording now any more, like all the unpleasant stuff. I used conditional. Conditional is not a yes. Conditional is clearly and unmistakeably a 'no', until the condition is met. The condition is not yet met. And even if the condition is met, it is not automatically a 'yes' until the condition is clearly defined as the only condition. I thought You are kind of fit in programming. But that has shown as a wrong supposition.  Now, what I was insinuating under the not yet met condition, was not the deletion of the page, it was my sympathetic feelings for 'them' or their supposed (not actual) intention: "see it as in the interest of the original author (Augustine)". To call this my agreement is far from being true. Maybe You got too much experience with persuasion that You can see clearly any more? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])
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:Why don't you fix it up as you see fit my making bold edits? By which I mean, don't just get rid of the content unless you have a substantive rather than procedural objection to it. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 17:38, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
:Why don't you fix it up as you see fit my making bold edits? By which I mean, don't just get rid of the content unless you have a substantive rather than procedural objection to it. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 17:38, 22 September 2014 (UTC)


==[[WikiBreak]]==
==[[Wiki break]]==
I wish You a recreating WikiBreak :-)
I wish You a recreating [[wiki break]] :-)


The solution on the issues You observed are laying in the ongoing exercising of [http://www.pmsa.de/NonviolentCommunication/ NVC]. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 14:59, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
The solution on the issues You observed are laying in the ongoing exercising of [http://www.pmsa.de/NonviolentCommunication/ NVC]. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 14:59, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
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==Templates==
==Templates==
*[[Template:W]] – Delete? Categorize?  
*[[Template:Wp]] – Delete? Categorize?  
*[[Template:Wikt]] – Delete? Categorize?  
*[[Template:Wikt]] – Delete? Categorize?  
*[[Template:Mw]] – Delete? Categorize? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 00:22, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
*[[Template:Mw]] – Delete? Categorize? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 00:22, 27 September 2014 (UTC)


==New pages==
==New pages==
* What about [[MediaWiki:Extension]]
* What about 'MediaWiki:Extension'
* And are You sure You created [[MediaWiki extension]] in the proper namesapace?
* And are You sure You created [[MediaWiki extension]] in the proper namesapace?
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 17:56, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 17:56, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
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:View the source; it has stuff like:
:View the source; it has stuff like:


<pre>
<pre style="overflow-x:scroll; overflow-y:hidden">
var startUp = function () {
var startUp = function () {
     mw.config = new mw.Map(true);
     mw.config = new mw.Map(true);
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==Hey Kiddo==
==Hey Kiddo==
* Please do not use the main namespace as Your sandbox.
* Please do not use the main namespace as Your [[sandbox]].
* You got a sandbox under Your user name and can create extra pages in Your userspace for experimental reasons.  
* You got a sandbox under Your user name and can create extra pages in Your userspace for experimental reasons.  
* There You can develop pages until they are fit for the main namespace.
* There You can develop pages until they are fit for the main namespace.
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I would say it was in the wrong namespace and should be in Help/ if I would have considered it helpful for anybody which I don't. Since it is also not a Wikiconcept it does not belong to WiniIndex/... and so forth... [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 22:04, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
I would say it was in the wrong namespace and should be in Help/ if I would have considered it helpful for anybody which I don't. Since it is also not a Wikiconcept it does not belong to WiniIndex/... and so forth... [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 22:04, 6 January 2015 (UTC)


:Pure Wiki Deletion or [[Semi-deletion]] (bad name for it, it's blanking) is a "wiki concept," just because Manorainjan is not familiar with it doesn't change the fact of its existence. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pure_wiki_deletion_system]. However, L., you can develop that page in your user space, so leave it there for now! You should recognize where Manorainjan is coming from, he's like you, only nastier. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 23:14, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
:Pure Wiki Deletion or [[Semi-deletion (concept)|Semi-deletion]] (bad name for it, it's blanking) is a "[[:Category:Wiki concept|wiki concept]]", just because Manorainjan is not familiar with it doesn't change the fact of its existence. {{Wp|Wikipedia:Pure wiki deletion system}}. However, L., you can develop that page in your user space, so leave it there for now! You should recognize where Manorainjan is coming from, he's like you, only nastier. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 23:14, 6 January 2015 (UTC)


==Please stop==
==Please stop==
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::::I agree you're trolling. The ice is not only very thin, and there are also a ton of cracks in it. Keep pushing your luck if you want to eat a block, because I want harmony around here, and people disrupting it like you have been do not please me. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 03:44, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
::::I agree you're trolling. The ice is not only very thin, and there are also a ton of cracks in it. Keep pushing your luck if you want to eat a block, because I want harmony around here, and people disrupting it like you have been do not please me. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 03:44, 10 January 2015 (UTC)


I disagree with the use of the term harmony. Let's assume its an euphemism for industrial peace or similar. I agree with the general point made here. But I do not see that it is going anywhere good. I expect L. to play with the foggy limits for a while until he is in the mood for [[WikiBreak|suicide by sysop]] again. Now, L. has demonstrated sufficiently his unreliability in dealing with policy pages. Therefore I suggest to not ban his account but to forbid him clearly to edit any policy page at all except for their talk pages. Make this for a year without appeal. Appoint one admin for revision in 2016. For every other admin he pesters about that add another year. Problem unsolved: Definition of what is a policy page? Because for making limits clear to L. You got to write it in machine language ;) Declare all types, initialise all variables and constants! [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 11:43, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
I disagree with the use of the term harmony. Let's assume its an euphemism for industrial peace or similar. I agree with the general point made here. But I do not see that it is going anywhere good. I expect L. to play with the foggy limits for a while until he is in the mood for [[Wiki break|suicide by sysop]] again. Now, L. has demonstrated sufficiently his unreliability in dealing with policy pages. Therefore I suggest to not ban his account but to forbid him clearly to edit any policy page at all except for their talk pages. Make this for a year without appeal. Appoint one admin for revision in 2016. For every other admin he pesters about that add another year. Problem unsolved: Definition of what is a policy page? Because for making limits clear to L. You got to write it in machine language ;) Declare all types, initialise all variables and constants! [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 11:43, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
:This place has gotten pretty lame since Sean left. It's obvious that if I hang around much longer, a block is going to be imposed. I'm going to see if [[WikiApiary]] is any better. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 21:57, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
:This place has gotten pretty lame since Sean left. It's obvious that if I hang around much longer, a block is going to be imposed. I'm going to see if [[WikiApiary]] is any better. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 21:57, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
::That's what I was thinking of doing, Manorainjan. Leucosticte, I am hereby imposing a hiatus on editing (or creating) policy pages without consensus. Failure to abide by this will result in a block from editing ranging from a week to a month, depending on the severity of your violation. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 02:55, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
::That's what I was thinking of doing, Manorainjan. Leucosticte, I am hereby imposing a hiatus on editing (or creating) policy pages without consensus. Failure to abide by this will result in a block from editing ranging from a week to a month, depending on the severity of your violation. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 02:55, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
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But If You do, why don't You also add size (pages) and other structural info since You already got to know the statistics pages?
But If You do, why don't You also add size (pages) and other structural info since You already got to know the statistics pages?


Been away when we discussed about status and uselessness of "NeedsLove?"
Been away when we discussed about status and uselessness of "Needs love?"


By now You should know, that the Add a Wiki-funktion is not well implemented and adding the so called [[Template:Wiki boilerplate]] is the better option. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 18:27, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
By now You should know, that the Add a Wiki-funktion is not well implemented and adding the so called [[Template:Wiki boilerplate]] is the better option. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 18:27, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
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==Speaking of lions==
==Speaking of lions==
http://wondermark.com/c/2014-11-04-1074petty.png
https://Wondermark.com/c/2014-11-04-1074petty.png


==Your article on me==
==Your article on me==
http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Michaeldsuarez&action=history &ndash; I redirected it to my userpage. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] ([[User talk:Michaeldsuarez|talk]]) 14:58, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Michaeldsuarez&action=history &ndash; I redirected it to my userpage. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] ([[User talk:Michaeldsuarez|talk]]) 14:58, 2 March 2015 (UTC)


==Weigh in on [[WikiIndex:ServerName#Poll]]?==
==Weigh in on [[WikiIndex:Proposal: domain name change#Poll]]?==
I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to a potential [[WikiIndex:ServerName|decision to change the domain of this wiki]].  I hope you'll weigh in with your opinion.  Thanks! [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 20:08, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to a potential [[WikiIndex:Proposal: domain name change|decision to change the domain of this wiki]].  I hope you'll weigh in with your opinion.  Thanks! [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 20:08, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


==[[:Category:Pedosexuality]]==
==Category:Pedosexuality==
New :-)  --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 14:00, 16 November 2015 (PST)
New :-)  --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 14:00, 16 November 2015 (PST)


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:Getting globally banned from Wikimedia was kind of a crushing blow, because MediaWiki.org and Meta-Wiki are sites with applicability to the wikisphere as a whole, and now I can't be involved there. That leaves me wondering, what's left?
:Getting globally banned from Wikimedia was kind of a crushing blow, because MediaWiki.org and Meta-Wiki are sites with applicability to the wikisphere as a whole, and now I can't be involved there. That leaves me wondering, what's left?


:It just seems like the wikisphere isn't what it used to be. A lot of activity has moved to other places, like Discord, WordPress, etc. Wikipedia looks to be on the decline too, but it's the only game in town, so people tend to go back there when they can. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 16:03, 10 December 2017 (PST)
:It just seems like the wikisphere isn't what it used to be. A lot of activity has moved to other places, like Discord, WordPress, etc. Wikipedia looks to be on the decline too, but it's the only game in town, so people tend to go back there when they can. But in recent years, it seems like more people have been getting kicked off, and they've taken measures to make it harder to come back.
 
:Also, it wasn't good that [[BoyWiki]] got deleted, but whatever, the rest of the Internet doesn't seem to like this wiki all that much anyway. Even when you do what they want, they're not happy. People still probably think WikiIndex is "dominated" by me. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 16:03, 10 December 2017 (PST)
::Thanks for your prompt reply.  Great to hear from you.  I did read about your global ban, and I was gobsmacked to be honest.  Sadly, I too have been on the receiving end of utterly obnoxious admins, and other editors on enWiki - I have nearly 50 years professional experience in a certain industry, and school kid sysops (who have probably never earned a penny or dime in my industry) revert, rollback, and even threaten to ban me!  I find enWiki totally shocking, and editors and admins are behaving totally against their own policies.
 
::As for a replacement for Meta-Wiki, have you thought about [[Semantic MediaWiki]]?  That is a 'meta' for the SMW suite, they are a bunch of good guys, and crucially, they are also MediaWiki developers.  As for what others think of your status here on WikiIndex, I feel they perhaps misunderstand you.  I personally strongly value your competence and enthusiasm, and am happy to defend your contributions.  Okay, I do not personally agree with some of your interests, and providing you don't try to force-feed them (which you do not), I will be tolerant of them without endorsing them.  And I have found you always respectful of my opinions and requests, and genuinely appreciate your efforts in developing and evolving WikiIndex as a whole.  So for as long as I have a pulse, and active on here, am happy for you to resume here if you wish.  What was the rationale for deleting [[BoyWiki]]?  The log doesn't give a reason, and its [[Talk:BoyWiki|talk page]] just seems to be full of sock IPs flaming it.  I would appreciate your honest recollections if possible.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 18:03, 10 December 2017 (PST)
:::There was [[WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal/Archive_3#BoyWiki.2FNewgon_Wiki_proposal|a debate]] on one of the community pages about deleting the pages on BoyWiki and a bunch of other wikis, and the vote ended up going against me.
 
:::(It's actually kinda weird that the [[Nathania]] page hasn't been deleted, because that URL has been banned even from BoyChat. Even they don't want to be associated with it.)
 
:::There also was pushback against "vanity" pages. It seems to me like WikiIndex was ''intended'' to be a bunch of vanity pages. The whole point of a public wiki besides Wikipedia is usually to serve as a repository for [[vanispamcruftisement]] that Wikipedia would delete. But, people wanted to pare down the vanity content, which means it had to go elsewhere, either to other wikis (most commonly), or to those wikis' own Project:About pages.
 
:::It's also gotten harder to document what goes on at Wikipedia, because so much happens in secret now. When people get ArbCom- or globally banned, there's often no public case opened. They just have a discussion via their listserv or whatever other venue they use, and announce the decision. We're not even told which individuals favored or opposed the decision. The processes aren't as transparent as they used to be, which makes it harder to document wikipolitics.
 
:::It just seems like a dark time for the wikisphere. Wikipedia, which serves as its hub, is getting more closed-off, with stuff like the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed_article_creation_trial ACTRIAL] to get in the way of newbies' (or banned users like me) putting their ideas into effect immediately. There seems to be a growing sense among Wikipedians that their job is mostly finished, and that now mostly they just need to defend what they've already created. When people want to cover a news event, for instance, people say, "Wait ten years and then create this article when it's clear that the topic has enduring interest." [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 18:28, 10 December 2017 (PST)
 
==How much honesty is left in You==
We both know pretty well that any person with a connection to the internet can use any number of open proxies and post under any number of different ever changing IPs. I did this myself when I brought the house down on wiki wiki web for demonstrational purpose. --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 15:17, 14 December 2017 (PST)
:[https://emojipedia.org/face-screaming-in-fear/ So you admit to wreaking chaos throughout the wikisphere!] [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 20:18, 14 December 2017 (PST)
 
::Speaking of wikisphere, here [[WikiIndex:SiteStats]] I roughly  estimate the number of wikis as 1 million by now. Given that the [[WikiWikiWeb]] has 36,854 pages, I admit that I deliberately created 12 pages, which amounts to 0.03 % of that wiki and 0.000,000,03 % of wikisphere which constitutes a rather homoeopathic concentration. You see, numerically Your exaggeration is 1:1.000.000.000, one to a billion. You are not just shooting a sparrow with cannons, You try to kill an ant by setting free the atomic arsenal of USA. This only shows how much fear is inside You. But this fear is not because of me or anybody else. It is because of what You did in the past and which You can never undo. To try to counteract ones inner fear by attacking others is the one and only cause of every war. It does never work. The fear always remains and increases as much as one goes to war. --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 02:26, 15 December 2017 (PST)
 
::P.S.:You completely evaded the actual question of Your honesty or the detail of IP-editing via open proxy, which means, that You where in no way at all able to provide something that could pose as an argument. --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 02:31, 15 December 2017 (PST)

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