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==Move to article page when agreed upon by 3 [[Sysops]] and 3 people involved [[User talk:This is not the solution#Thanks to everyone for the cooling off - here is my idea on how to move through this.|in the conflict]]==
==Move to article page when agreed upon by 3 Sysops & 3 people involved [[User talk:This is not the solution#Thanks to everyone for the cooling off - here is my idea on how to move through this.|in the conflict]]==
It was created to parody [[Conservapedia]] and advises that: "most articles should take stereotypical [[:Category:Liberal|liberal]] views and distort them to the extreme".  Liberapedia includes serious articles as well as parodies, and there is sometimes no clear distinction between the two. Although its stated goal is to be a parody encyclopaedia, the serious content contradicts this.
It was created to parody [[Conservapedia]] and advises that: "most articles should take stereotypical [[:Category:Liberal|liberal]] views and distort them to the extreme".  Liberapedia includes serious articles as well as parodies, and there is sometimes no clear distinction between the two. Although its stated goal is to be a [[:Category:Parody|parody]] encyclopaedia, the serious content contradicts this.


The original creator of Liberapedia left the site leaving no active bureaucrats. The remaining sysops struggled to handle the incoming spam, and later moved to a site hosted at [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] where the new “founder” is [[Liberapedia:User:Ajuk|Ajuk]].
The original creator of Liberapedia left the site leaving no active [[bureaucrat]]s. The remaining [[sysop]]s struggled to handle the incoming spam, and later moved to a site hosted at [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] where the new “founder” is [[Liberapedia (Wikia):User:Ajuk|Ajuk]].


Unfortunately no one bought up the URL of [[Old Liberapedia]] and the domain name now hosts a parking lot.
Unfortunately no one bought up the URL of [[Old Liberapedia]] and the domain name now hosts a parking lot.


I've deleted the category Liberapedia.  There used to be a second wiki in the category, Liberapediapedia.  Liberapediapedia perished with [[ScribbleWiki]].  There's no point in a category with only one wiki. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:17, 21 November 2008 (EST)
I've deleted the category Liberapedia.  There used to be a second wiki in the category, Liberapediapedia.  Liberapediapedia perished with [[:Category:ScribbleWiki|ScribbleWiki]].  There's no point in a category with only one wiki. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:17, 21 November 2008 (EST)


==Protection==
==Protection==
What was so horrible about my contributions that a [[sysop]] (who btw is an administrator at Liberapedia, and therefore has a conflict of interest) had to lock this article '''FOR A MONTH'''? I admit that the Cyberbullying section was [[wp:WP:POINT|pointy]], but the rest was merely copyediting, and removing redundant and confusing info about the whole domain name thing. Oh, and '''you reverted a spelling correction'''
What was so horrible about my contributions that a [[sysop]] (who btw is an administrator at Liberapedia, and therefore has a conflict of interest) had to lock this article '''FOR A MONTH'''? I admit that the Cyberbullying section was {{Wp|WP:POINT|pointy}}, but the rest was merely copyediting, and removing redundant and confusing info about the whole domain name thing. Oh, and '''you reverted a spelling correction'''


You removed content from the page and that can be a blockable offense at at wikis. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 02:04, 8 July 2009 (EDT)
You removed content from the page and that can be a blockable offense at at wikis. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 02:04, 8 July 2009 (EDT)
:The only "content" I removed was the minutiae of your DNS problems, specifically the search engine rankings, and I replaced it with a single generic sentence. I'm not censoring anything, I'm merely trying to improve the article.
:The only "content" I removed was the minutiae of your DNS problems, specifically the search engine rankings, and I replaced it with a single generic sentence. I'm not censoring anything, I'm merely trying to improve the article.
:And if we're dishing out threats now: You used your protection powers (in a grossly inappropriate way) and threatened to use your blocking powers in a content dispute. That can lead to you losing your sysop powers at wikis.
:And if we're dishing out threats now: You used your protection powers (in a grossly inappropriate way) and threatened to use your blocking powers in a content dispute. That can lead to you losing your sysop powers at wikis.
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==Protection again==
==Protection again==
This article has been protected for a month again (by Liberapedia bureaucrat Proxima Centauri).
This article has been protected for a month again (by Liberapedia bureaucrat Proxima Centauri). I have tried to make the second paragraph understandable to human beings, but apparently it is forbidden to touch anything Proxima writes, no matter how bad it is. So allow me to explain [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Liberapedia&diff=prev&oldid=69073 my edit]:
 
I have tried to make the second paragraph understandable to human beings, but apparently it is forbidden to touch anything Proxima writes, no matter how bad it is.
So allow me to explain [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Liberapedia&diff=prev&oldid=69073 my edit]:


:[[:Category:Wikia|wikia]] where the new “founder” is -> the [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] [[Wiki farm]], under the leadership of a new "founder"
:[[:Category:Wikia|wikia]] where the new “founder” is -> the [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] [[Wiki farm]], under the leadership of a new "founder"
:: nothing controversial here, merged the Wikia wiki farm thing from the last paragraph
:: nothing controversial here, merged the Wikia wiki farm thing from the last paragraph
:Unfortunately no one bought up the URL of [[Old Liberapedia]] and the domain name now hosts a placeholder site with [http://www.liberapedia.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Spam].
:Unfortunately no one bought up the URL of [[Old Liberapedia]] and the domain name now hosts a placeholder site with [http://www.Liberapedia.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Spam].
::That is not spam. It's called advertisements, and it's standard procedure for domain hosts to put up advertisements on expired domains. They have every right to do so.
::That is not spam. It's called advertisements, and it's standard procedure for domain hosts to put up advertisements on expired domains. They have every right to do so.
:This could matter because on March 7th 2009 Google put that site on top when users look for Liberapedia. [http://liberapedia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Old_Liberapedia_cyber_squaters&t=20090308075834 A forum] was set up to discuss it. As of March 8th 2009 this has stopped at least in the UK but the future is uncertain and as of June 30th Yahoo still give the spammed wiki URL just below the link to New Liberapedia. We cannot guess what would have happened if Liberapedia users had overlooked the spam going on top of Google's answers.  
:This could matter because on March 7th 2009 Google put that site on top when users look for Liberapedia. [http://Liberapedia.Wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Old_Liberapedia_cyber_squaters&t=20090308075834 A forum] was set up to discuss it. As of March 8th 2009 this has stopped at least in the UK but the future is uncertain and as of June 30th Yahoo still give the spammed wiki URL just below the link to New Liberapedia. We cannot guess what would have happened if Liberapedia users had overlooked the spam going on top of Google's answers.  
::Horribly written, contains irrelevant and probably outdated details
::Horribly written, contains irrelevant and probably outdated details
:[http://www.palaeos.org/Special:RecentChanges?title=User_talk:Proxima_Centauri&curid=8287&diff=20855&oldid=19869 Suggested action] if other wikis get comparable problems.
:[http://www.palaeos.org/Special:RecentChanges?title=User_talk:Proxima_Centauri&curid=8287&diff=20855&oldid=19869 Suggested action] if other wikis get comparable problems.
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What I replaced it with:
What I replaced it with:
:Unfortunately no one bought up the URL of [[Old Liberapedia]]. For a while, search engines ranked the old site higher than the new one, leading to confusion and possible loss of traffic and users. The old domain name now hosts a placeholder site with [http://www.liberapedia.com/index.php?title=Main_Page advertisements]. This situation is gradually improving as search engines rank the placeholder lower than new Liberapedia.
:Unfortunately no one bought up the URL of [[Old Liberapedia]]. For a while, search engines ranked the old site higher than the new one, leading to confusion and possible loss of traffic and users. The old domain name now hosts a placeholder site with [http://www.Liberapedia.com/index.php?title=Main_Page advertisements]. This situation is gradually improving as search engines rank the placeholder lower than new Liberapedia.
I don't know why I didn't include the external link to the discussion on LP, but I'd include it now. I'm talking about this: http://liberapedia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Old_Liberapedia_cyber_squaters&t=20090308075834. That's about the only thing that could be considered objectionable about my edit, but it was not on purpose. Other than that and except the "useful" suggestion and the details, there's no loss of information here.
I don't know why I didn't include the external link to the discussion on LP, but I'd include it now. I'm talking about this: http://Liberapedia.Wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Old_Liberapedia_cyber_squaters&t=20090308075834. That's about the only thing that could be considered objectionable about my edit, but it was not on purpose. Other than that and except the "useful" suggestion and the details, there's no loss of information here.


I also removed the last paragraph:
I also removed the last paragraph:
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==Move to article page - vote==
==Move to article page - vote==
As the statement at the top says: ''Move to article page when agreed upon by 3 [[Sysops]] and 3 people involved'' I propose that we do just that.--[[User:Bob M|Bob M]] 08:13, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
As the statement at the top says: ''Move to article page when agreed upon by 3 [[Sysop]]s and 3 people involved'' I propose that we do just that.--[[User:Bob M|Bob M]] 08:13, 10 September 2009 (EDT)


Great Bob, I think that agreeing on an article is not like voting.  I think this is [[Wiki]] and we can do things that are better than voting. My perspective on this comes from [[Meatball:VotingIsEvil]].  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
Great Bob, I think that agreeing on an article is not like voting.  I think this is [[Wiki]] and we can do things that are better than voting. My perspective on this comes from [[Meatball:VotingIsEvil]].  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
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-- I don't see anything controversial with the contents of this article. Whether it is accurate or not is a different matter, and should be solved by other means. Voting to reinstate. [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 02:01, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
-- I don't see anything controversial with the contents of this article. Whether it is accurate or not is a different matter, and should be solved by other means. Voting to reinstate. [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 02:01, 14 September 2009 (EDT)


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Move to article page when agreed upon by 3 Sysops & 3 people involved in the conflict[edit]

It was created to parody Conservapedia and advises that: "most articles should take stereotypical liberal views and distort them to the extreme". Liberapedia includes serious articles as well as parodies, and there is sometimes no clear distinction between the two. Although its stated goal is to be a parody encyclopaedia, the serious content contradicts this.

The original creator of Liberapedia left the site leaving no active bureaucrats. The remaining sysops struggled to handle the incoming spam, and later moved to a site hosted at Wikia where the new “founder” is Ajuk.

Unfortunately no one bought up the URL of Old Liberapedia and the domain name now hosts a parking lot.

I've deleted the category Liberapedia. There used to be a second wiki in the category, Liberapediapedia. Liberapediapedia perished with ScribbleWiki. There's no point in a category with only one wiki. Proxima Centauri 15:17, 21 November 2008 (EST)

Protection[edit]

What was so horrible about my contributions that a sysop (who btw is an administrator at Liberapedia, and therefore has a conflict of interest) had to lock this article FOR A MONTH? I admit that the Cyberbullying section was pointy, but the rest was merely copyediting, and removing redundant and confusing info about the whole domain name thing. Oh, and you reverted a spelling correction

You removed content from the page and that can be a blockable offense at at wikis. Proxima Centauri 02:04, 8 July 2009 (EDT)

The only "content" I removed was the minutiae of your DNS problems, specifically the search engine rankings, and I replaced it with a single generic sentence. I'm not censoring anything, I'm merely trying to improve the article.
And if we're dishing out threats now: You used your protection powers (in a grossly inappropriate way) and threatened to use your blocking powers in a content dispute. That can lead to you losing your sysop powers at wikis.

Iv feel you're here just to troll and cause me trouble and I expect the bureaucrats here to take that into account. Proxima Centauri 05:14, 8 July 2009 (EDT)

Oh, ok, let's call the opponent a troll and we've magically won the argument. Hurray. Oh wait, that didn't work so well last time...
Oh, and there's still a spelling mistake in the article

Protection again[edit]

This article has been protected for a month again (by Liberapedia bureaucrat Proxima Centauri). I have tried to make the second paragraph understandable to human beings, but apparently it is forbidden to touch anything Proxima writes, no matter how bad it is. So allow me to explain my edit:

wikia where the new “founder” is -> the Wikia Wiki farm, under the leadership of a new "founder"
nothing controversial here, merged the Wikia wiki farm thing from the last paragraph
Unfortunately no one bought up the URL of Old Liberapedia and the domain name now hosts a placeholder site with Spam.
That is not spam. It's called advertisements, and it's standard procedure for domain hosts to put up advertisements on expired domains. They have every right to do so.
This could matter because on March 7th 2009 Google put that site on top when users look for Liberapedia. A forum was set up to discuss it. As of March 8th 2009 this has stopped at least in the UK but the future is uncertain and as of June 30th Yahoo still give the spammed wiki URL just below the link to New Liberapedia. We cannot guess what would have happened if Liberapedia users had overlooked the spam going on top of Google's answers.
Horribly written, contains irrelevant and probably outdated details
Suggested action if other wikis get comparable problems.
I followed the link and had no idea what that post was about (google ads apparently, what has that got to do with google rankings?). Also this article isn't the place to put helpful tips about running the site. PROTIP: Don't change the domain name.

What I replaced it with:

Unfortunately no one bought up the URL of Old Liberapedia. For a while, search engines ranked the old site higher than the new one, leading to confusion and possible loss of traffic and users. The old domain name now hosts a placeholder site with advertisements. This situation is gradually improving as search engines rank the placeholder lower than new Liberapedia.

I don't know why I didn't include the external link to the discussion on LP, but I'd include it now. I'm talking about this: http://Liberapedia.Wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Old_Liberapedia_cyber_squaters&t=20090308075834. That's about the only thing that could be considered objectionable about my edit, but it was not on purpose. Other than that and except the "useful" suggestion and the details, there's no loss of information here.

I also removed the last paragraph:

Liberapedia now is yet another Wiki from the fertile Wiki farm of Wikia.

since that was also mentioned in the first paragraph. Nx 16:09, 26 August 2009 (EDT)

Move to article page - vote[edit]

As the statement at the top says: Move to article page when agreed upon by 3 Sysops and 3 people involved I propose that we do just that.--Bob M 08:13, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

Great Bob, I think that agreeing on an article is not like voting. I think this is Wiki and we can do things that are better than voting. My perspective on this comes from Meatball:VotingIsEvil. Best, MarkDilley

Vote for re-insertion[edit]

--Bob M 08:13, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

--Lumenos 14:56, 13 September 2009 (EDT) Vote to unlock the article page (not an endorsement of any version of the article).

-- I don't see anything controversial with the contents of this article. Whether it is accurate or not is a different matter, and should be solved by other means. Voting to reinstate. Felix Pleşoianu | talk 02:01, 14 September 2009 (EDT)

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I've put this in the following talk pages: — talk:a Storehouse of Knowledge, talk:Citizendium, talk:Conservapedia, talk:Encyclopedia Dramatica, talk:Encyclopedia Of Stupid, talk:Liberapedia (Wikia), talk:Libertapedia, talk:RationalWiki (en), talk:RationalWikiWiki, talk:WikiLeaks, talk:English Wikipedia, talk:Español Wikipedia, talk:Simple English Wikipedia, talk:Wikinfo, and talk:Wikitruth. —206.130.173.53 13:17, 21 January 2011 (PST)