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Distinction?

Should there be a distinction between wikis that are bilingual (e.g. WikiIndex: English & French), multilingual (e.g. Wikimedia Commons: multiple languages used within the same wiki), and multiple languages (e.g. most Wikimedia Foundation projects, such as the Wikipedia that have versions in different languages [as subdomains])? User:BlankVerse | talk 00:44, 27 Mar 2006 (EST)

Merge to "Language"?

Wiki Language is confusing - sounds like it's about wiki markup or some such thing. Merge into category: Language? Articles in Category:Language can stay in the root category, and the subcategory can be for specific languages. --Chris Watkins a.k.a. Singkong2005 ^talk 21:39, 2 September 2006 (EDT)

Seems like a reasonable suggestion to me! TedErnst | talk 21:40, 3 September 2006 (EDT)

Category:Latin vs Category:Wiki Latin

Language category simplification proposal

Someone is starting to set up two parallel categories of languages.

• categories like "Category: Wiki Latin"
• categories like "Category: Latin"

Alas, currently most articles in such categories are miscategorized -- they have one tag when they "should" have the other tag.

Category simplification proposal

• Add one new category that indicates that our article is about a wiki that discusses some language itself; perhaps category: Linguistic or category: Language.
• Get rid of all the 'Category:Wiki Latin' and similar categories; edit pages that use them to use the simpler Category:Latin and similar categories.

Advantage: one kind of language category, rather than two, saves time and effort and confusion.

Disadvantage: people looking for a wiki that discusses the Latin language (or discusses some other specific language) must a little more work -- instead of going right to a category that exclusively lists "wiki that discuss the Latin language", they must dig through a long list of wiki in "Category: linguistic" or "Category: language" looking for the wiki that discuss their specific language of interest.

Do the advantages outweigh the disadvantages? Are there other advantages/disadvantages that I am missing? --DavidCary 15:17, 3 February 2009 (EST)

I think Speckmade initiated the parallel categories for languages. I've tried to help correct pages that ended up being miscategorized as a result of the change. However, I would prefer the simpler solution of putting all wikis about language itself into a category: Linguistic or some such. The disadvantage of not being able to easily find a specific language is true, but I think it's an easier-to-maintain solution. Also, if we find that a sub-category is needed for any particular language due to a large number of entries in the linguistics category, we can always add that later. --MarvelZuvembie 20:36, 30 March 2009 (EDT)

Could we use some system of ISO codes?

Category: Wiki language Rather than use only English names (easy for navigation but arbitrary and defeats multi-lingualism), we could use some system of ISO codes such as 'Category:en (English)', 'Category:de (German, Deutsch)', 'Category:es (Spanish, español)', 'Category:zh (Chinese, 中文)'. This would have some consistency and standardization while also allowing English to remain a lingua franca and let users find content in their own language. Thoughts? Koavf (talk) 16:02, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

I think this is a fantastic idea. What can folks do to help? ~~ MarkDilley

Converting I think it would be easy to do by myself. I'll leave this conversation here for a week or two and see if there's more feedback. Koavf (talk) 00:54, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure this is a good idea. Previous attempts of extended multilingual efforts on WikiIndex failed. The German de.WikiIndex.org failed, as did French & Swedish translations - despite having active editors in those languages.

I would also expect that only a tiny minority of folks fully understand ISO language codes. --Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • _{Admin / 'Crat} • talk2HH 23:58, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Language sorting Then how should we sort them? Do we want this site to be multi-lingual? I would certainly hope so. Koavf (talk) 05:53, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

I look at is as an "easy" way to take a step in that direction. Makes it more friendly to multi-linguists. Or at least that is the perception I have. ~~ MarkDilley

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