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## I'm personally still skeptical about this one. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''' 3 May 2013 | ## I'm personally still skeptical about this one. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''' 3 May 2013 | ||
### Please say more [[Elassint]] - is it not a worry to have spam accounts sitting in the database? Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ### Please say more [[Elassint]] - is it not a worry to have spam accounts sitting in the database? Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
#### It's bad when we look at [[Special:ListUsers]] -- full of spam accounts. But [[Wikipedia]] doesn't use it though | #### It's bad when we look at [[Special:ListUsers]] -- full of spam accounts. But [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] doesn't use it though {{Wp|Special:ListUsers}} is also full of spam accounts. In addition, [[LifeWiki]] and [[WikiApiary]] use it. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 11:34, 24 May 2013 (UTC) | ||
##### I would love to clean up this, but I wonder if there is another way to do it than one at a time... not sure, ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | ##### I would love to clean up this, but I wonder if there is another way to do it than one at a time... not sure, ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | ||
#####: Might need a bot. But pywikipedia don't seem to have a library for {{Mw|Extension:User Merge and Delete}}, so if we have to do that, | #####: Might need a bot. But pywikipedia don't seem to have a library for {{Mw|Extension:User Merge and Delete}}, so if we have to do that, | ||
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# This is "epic-failing" we need a better CAPTCHA system...preferably the one from [ | # This is "epic-failing" we need a better CAPTCHA system...preferably the one from [https://www.google.com/recaptcha Google]...--[[User:Comets|Comets]] ([[User talk:Comets|talk]]) 02:12, 21 August 2013 (UTC) | ||
#: [http://google.com?q={{urlencode:recaptcha cracked}} I hope that's not a serious suggestion.] --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 15:11, 21 August 2013 (UTC) | #: [http://google.com?q={{urlencode:recaptcha cracked}} I hope that's not a serious suggestion.] --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|talk]]) 15:11, 21 August 2013 (UTC) | ||
#:: Maybe so Roosa but its a suggestion, the current captcha is failing badly....unless you know something better? I have been away from this for a while now..--[[User:Comets|Comets]] ([[User talk:Comets|talk]]) 15:41, 21 August 2013 (UTC) | #:: Maybe so Roosa but its a suggestion, the current captcha is failing badly....unless you know something better? I have been away from this for a while now..--[[User:Comets|Comets]] ([[User talk:Comets|talk]]) 15:41, 21 August 2013 (UTC) | ||
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#:::: --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:06, 27 August 2013 (UTC) | #:::: --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:06, 27 August 2013 (UTC) | ||
reCAPTCHA , as I remember it, was developed by | reCAPTCHA , as I remember it, was developed by {{Wp|ReCAPTCHA|others}} - so my want of it has nothing to do with Google. I am simply trying to figure out what would be the best for this community to have. Looks like Benjamin is saying similar things above (thanks YiFei for pasting that) - I would be willing to try a simple question - it seems to take someone on the backend to create / maintain it. 'What is this index of?' answer wiki, Wiki, wikis, Wikis to complete. Best, [[MarkDilley]] (in fact Jack, I pretty much [[Archive.org:20100713161518/http://blog.aboutus.org/2008/03/04/google-to-earth-site-is-the-word-du-jour/|despise Google]] :-) | ||
#<s>{{Mw|Extension:ConfirmEdit}} as MathCaptcha (needs {{Mw|Extension:Math}} installed, which is easy with shell access on Linux (@Emufarmers: ask me if you have problems with {{Mw|Extension:Math}})) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 16:06, 21 August 2013 (UTC)</s> | #<s>{{Mw|Extension:ConfirmEdit}} as MathCaptcha (needs {{Mw|Extension:Math}} installed, which is easy with shell access on Linux (@Emufarmers: ask me if you have problems with {{Mw|Extension:Math}})) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 16:06, 21 August 2013 (UTC)</s> | ||
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I presume you mean can anyone else 'hijack' or steal <code>https://WikiIndex.org</code>? The answer to that is NO. "WikiIndex.org" is the domain name, and that is the important bit – providing the domain name registration doesn't expire (and I get the feeling from Ray's other interests, that is likely to be zero), you can't let anyone else take the domain name over. Furthermore, the "WikiIndex.org" domain can be configured in a number of related ways – in addition to our current "www.WikiIndex.org", you can also have "m.WikiIndex.org" (typically for mobile-configured displays), "ftp.WikiIndex.org" (file transfer protocol), and I'm sure I've missed a couple of others. | I presume you mean can anyone else 'hijack' or steal <code>https://WikiIndex.org</code>? The answer to that is NO. "WikiIndex.org" is the domain name, and that is the important bit – providing the domain name registration doesn't expire (and I get the feeling from Ray's other interests, that is likely to be zero), you can't let anyone else take the domain name over. Furthermore, the "WikiIndex.org" domain can be configured in a number of related ways – in addition to our current "www.WikiIndex.org", you can also have "m.WikiIndex.org" (typically for mobile-configured displays), "ftp.WikiIndex.org" (file transfer protocol), and I'm sure I've missed a couple of others. | ||
The "http" vs "https" can be applied to any of the above – but the "https" means in laymans terms a 'secure' communication method. In order to have an " | The "http" vs "https" can be applied to any of the above – but the "https" means in laymans terms a 'secure' communication method. In order to have an "{{Cambridge-Dictionary|http}}s" site, you need an '{{Cambridge-Dictionary|ssl|SSL}}' (secure socket layer) certificate (often regulated by the likes of VeriSign, Comodo, and many others). The secure "https" is typically used on internet trading sites (which take payment via Visa, MasterCard, Amex, PayPal, etc), banking, insurance and other commerce sites. As [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] states above, there is no real need to have a secure connection on a wiki. If a password is compromised (which is honestly very doubtful), simply reset your password! [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 21:52, 30 July 2014 (UTC) | ||
:'''Security on a wiki''' While wikis generally aren't as privacy-centered as (e.g.) banking, there are definitely times when added security is important. If a dissident journalist were dumping documents to [[WikiLeaks]] (which is no longer a wiki) or [[Wikinews]], he would certainly want greater security. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 23:17, 30 July 2014 (UTC) | :'''Security on a wiki''' While wikis generally aren't as privacy-centered as (e.g.) banking, there are definitely times when added security is important. If a dissident journalist were dumping documents to [[WikiLeaks]] (which is no longer a wiki) or [[English Wikinews|Wikinews]], he would certainly want greater security. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 23:17, 30 July 2014 (UTC) | ||
:: I did not mean to say that there is no need for a secure connection on a Wiki. I mean, "it looks like" there would be no need. But actually there is a need, because many people do logins. And every login procedure wherever should be secured. German end English Wikipedia connect via https by default. Wherever there is a SPAM or vandalism risk, there You need to have security as well to counteract it. Here and there I was reading about SPAMers, imposters and the like also here on WikiIndex. You need to have secure login at least for admins. And when the capability is installed, there is no reason whatsoever not to make it available for all. --[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 00:05, 31 July 2014 (UTC) | :: I did not mean to say that there is no need for a secure connection on a Wiki. I mean, "it looks like" there would be no need. But actually there is a need, because many people do logins. And every login procedure wherever should be secured. German end English Wikipedia connect via https by default. Wherever there is a SPAM or vandalism risk, there You need to have security as well to counteract it. Here and there I was reading about SPAMers, imposters and the like also here on WikiIndex. You need to have secure login at least for admins. And when the capability is installed, there is no reason whatsoever not to make it available for all. --[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 00:05, 31 July 2014 (UTC) | ||