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This '''WikiIndex community talk''' page is a space to ask a question when the question is not directed towards a [[:Category:Wiki People|individual person]] but towards the whole group; or if you don't know who to ask here at {{tag|WikiIndex}}.  A similar page with similar purposes is '''[[WikiIndex talk:Community portal]]'''.
This '''WikiIndex community talk''' page is a space to ask a question when the question is not directed towards a [[:Category:Wiki people|individual person]] but towards the whole group; or if you don't know who to ask here at {{tag|WikiIndex}}.  A similar page with similar purposes is '''[[WikiIndex talk:Community portal]]'''.


You may wish to type your question in the search box to see if there has been a question like yours before, or consult the [[WikiIndex:Frequently asked questions|WikiIndex FAQ]] – ''before'' you post a question here.
You may wish to type your question in the search box to see if there has been a question like yours before, or consult the [[WikiIndex:Frequently asked questions|WikiIndex FAQ]] – ''before'' you post a question here.
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==technical glitch==
==technical glitch==
Hello folks, I don't use watched pages very much.  But I do on my [[user talk]] page, or did, way back when and I try to unwatch it.  that doesn't work, every time I unwatch it, the next login, it is being watched again, any ideas? [[MarkDilley]]
Hello folks, I don't use watched pages very much.  But I do on my [[WikiIndex:Talk pages for wiki people|user talk]] page, or did, way back when and I try to unwatch it.  that doesn't work, every time I unwatch it, the next login, it is being watched again, any ideas? [[MarkDilley]]
:I can only guess that that's a MediaWiki feature.  If you don't use the [[Special:Watchlist|watchlist]], does having something on there impact you somewhere else? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:04, 6 June 2006 (EDT)
:I can only guess that that's a MediaWiki feature.  If you don't use the [[Special:Watchlist|watchlist]], does having something on there impact you somewhere else? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:04, 6 June 2006 (EDT)


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:I'm sorry to hear you're annoyed, my friend. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 17:11, 6 June 2006 (EDT)
:I'm sorry to hear you're annoyed, my friend. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 17:11, 6 June 2006 (EDT)
::In [[Special:Preferences]] there is an option to add every page you edit to your watchlist.  You may want to turn that off if it's not already off. --[[User:Carlb|Carlb]] 22:59, 10 June 2006 (EDT)
::In [[Special:Preferences]] there is an option to add every page you edit to your watchlist.  You may want to turn that off if it's not already off. --[[User:Carlb|Carlb]] 22:59, 10 June 2006 (EDT)
:::It seems that our '''[[user talk]]''' pages are always in bold, is that true? [[MarkDilley]]
:::It seems that our '''[[WikiIndex:Talk pages for wiki people|user talk]]''' pages are always in bold, is that true? [[MarkDilley]]
::::Your own user page can't be un-watched. I think it's somehow connected to talk page notification. &mdash;[[Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">User:Sean Fennel</span>]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">@</span>]] 00:56, 3 July 2006 (EDT)
::::Your own user page can't be un-watched. I think it's somehow connected to talk page notification. &mdash;[[Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">User:Sean Fennel</span>]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">@</span>]] 00:56, 3 July 2006 (EDT)


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:I believe that everything is on-topic somewhere [http://www.communitywiki.org/en/OnAndOffTopic].
:I believe that everything is on-topic somewhere [http://www.communitywiki.org/en/OnAndOffTopic].
:I would love for Mr. Obama to create a page at WikiIndex about himself, a page that would show the world that he is, in fact, one of the [[:Category:Wiki People]]
:I would love for Mr. Obama to create a page at WikiIndex about himself, a page that would show the world that he is, in fact, one of the [[:Category:Wiki people]]
:However, the WikiIndex is intended to be a index of wiki.
:However, the WikiIndex is intended to be a index of wiki.
:Since Mr. Obama is not, himself, a wiki, nor (yet) one of the [[:Category:Wiki People]], I don't think it is really appropriate for either of us to create an article about Mr. Obama here at WikiIndex.
:Since Mr. Obama is not, himself, a wiki, nor (yet) one of the [[:Category:Wiki people]], I don't think it is really appropriate for either of us to create an article about Mr. Obama here at WikiIndex.
:Until then, I think the best place at WikiIndex to put your list of links to wiki that have articles about Mr. Obama is in a "related wiki" section of the [[Obamapedia]] article at WikiIndex.
:Until then, I think the best place at WikiIndex to put your list of links to wiki that have articles about Mr. Obama is in a "related wiki" section of the [[Obamapedia]] article at WikiIndex.
:--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 16:49, 31 December 2008 (EST)
:--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 16:49, 31 December 2008 (EST)
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==SizeBot?==
==SizeBot?==
I've seen a number of other [[wiki]]s that have bots that go around and do minor cleanup jobs.  Would it possible to create a [[:Category:User Bot|bot]] that goes around and checks any pages that contain [[Template:Size]]?  This [[:Category:Templates|template]] contains the size of the wiki, but also has a link where the new size can be read.  A bot should (hopefully) be able to follow the link, look at the current size of the wiki and then update the number of pages back on [[:Category:All|WikiIndex]].
I've seen a number of other [[wiki]]s that have bots that go around and do minor cleanup jobs.  Would it possible to create a [[:Category:User bot|bot]] that goes around and checks any pages that contain [[Template:Size]]?  This [[:Category:Templates|template]] contains the size of the wiki, but also has a link where the new size can be read.  A bot should (hopefully) be able to follow the link, look at the current size of the wiki and then update the number of pages back on [[:Category:All|WikiIndex]].


Template:Size also features the [[wikiFactor]], and I wonder if the same bot could also check this information.  (Having said that, I know nothing about bot programming and it might be easier to have a second bot to do that.)  A bot that searches for wikis that do not currently have a wikiFactor (and then searches the wiki stats to see if it can be added) could also be useful.  I know that all wikis work slightly differently, but wiki farms (like [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]]) generally have the same setup on every wiki, so it might be easier to create a User:WikiaWikiFactorBot than a multi-wiki User:wikiFactorBot.  But I would think that any automation of moving stats would help keep WikiIndex as up to date as possible.
Template:Size also features the [[wikiFactor]], and I wonder if the same bot could also check this information.  (Having said that, I know nothing about bot programming and it might be easier to have a second bot to do that.)  A bot that searches for wikis that do not currently have a wikiFactor (and then searches the wiki stats to see if it can be added) could also be useful.  I know that all wikis work slightly differently, but wiki farms (like [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]]) generally have the same setup on every wiki, so it might be easier to create a User:WikiaWikiFactorBot than a multi-wiki User:wikiFactorBot.  But I would think that any automation of moving stats would help keep WikiIndex as up to date as possible.


If a number of [[:Category:User Bot|bots]] could be created to do these minor update tasks, the pages the bots can not cope with could be added to some sort of 'Wikis that need manual patrol' category, and people could use that category to help find the pages that don't look after themselves.  [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 09:05, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
If a number of [[:Category:User bot|bots]] could be created to do these minor update tasks, the pages the bots can not cope with could be added to some sort of 'Wikis that need manual patrol' category, and people could use that category to help find the pages that don't look after themselves.  [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 09:05, 9 May 2009 (EDT)


:I think that's a great idea.  This seems like it would easy to do, but like you, I haven't used bots, so I'm only assuming.  Anyone have any bot-creation experience? --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 19:45, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
:I think that's a great idea.  This seems like it would easy to do, but like you, I haven't used bots, so I'm only assuming.  Anyone have any bot-creation experience? --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 19:45, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
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==To what extent is WikiIndex intended to serve as a 'meatball wiki'==
==To what extent is WikiIndex intended to serve as a 'meatball wiki'==
[[WikiIndex:Creating New Articles]] says, "Most of the articles created in this [[WikiIndex]] wiki will be about other individual [[wiki]]s. Please refer to [[WikiIndex:Add a Wiki]] for further information. Other very limited topics are also appropriate, about [[:Category:Wiki People|wiki people]], wiki terms, [[:Category:Wiki idea|wiki ideas]], and how to use this wiki. Please be restrained in adding such peripheral material."
[[WikiIndex:Creating New Articles]] says, "Most of the articles created in this [[WikiIndex]] wiki will be about other individual [[wiki]]s. Please refer to [[WikiIndex:Add a Wiki]] for further information. Other very limited topics are also appropriate, about [[:Category:Wiki people|wiki people]], wiki terms, [[:Category:Wiki idea|wiki ideas]], and how to use this wiki. Please be restrained in adding such peripheral material."


I notice that we don't actually have a lot of pages in [[:Category:Wiki concept]] and [[:Category:Wiki idea]]. To what extent is it actually encouraged to add these kinds of pages? There's a lot that one could write about wiki-philosophy, wiki norms, etc. However, I don't want to do it if it'll be frowned upon. A 'meatball wiki' is basically one that "describes the general tendencies observed on wikis and other on-line communities; for example the life cycles of wikis, and people's behavior on them." To what extent are you cool with hosting that kind of content? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 07:31, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
I notice that we don't actually have a lot of pages in [[:Category:Wiki concept]] and [[:Category:Wiki idea]]. To what extent is it actually encouraged to add these kinds of pages? There's a lot that one could write about wiki-philosophy, wiki norms, etc. However, I don't want to do it if it'll be frowned upon. A 'meatball wiki' is basically one that "describes the general tendencies observed on wikis and other on-line communities; for example the life cycles of wikis, and people's behavior on them." To what extent are you cool with hosting that kind of content? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 07:31, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
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: I have no idea, the request account was an anti-spam measure. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: I have no idea, the request account was an anti-spam measure. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
==Wikis that are "paid-to-edit"==
Hello. Should there be a category for wikis where people get paid to edit? Yes, I said paid to edit, not [[:Category:Pay to edit|pay to edit]]. What kind of category would this category be? It just doesn't seem like an edit mode, but maybe it is. However, also keep in mind that there have been very few wikis that do this; the online encyclopedia Wixpert (which became a dead wiki before anyone could list it on WikiIndex) had a place in user preferences to put a Google AdSense code, and (at least at one time) [[EditThis.info]] had a place in control panel (wiki admin controls) to put a Google AdSense code. But that was just getting paid fractions of a cent per visit because of ads; then there were some [[:Category:ByInvitation|ByInvitation]] websites where you have to show the admins a resume and samples of your writing before you can have an account, and those sites actually had you do contract work, complete with making an invoice at the end; a freelance writing gig that just happens to use MediaWiki markup on an invite-only wiki. Or maybe there's only one wiki like that; [[New World Encyclopedia]] is definitely this. But how many wikis have actually paid their writers, whether it's contract work or just ad revenue sharing? And what should the "paid to edit" category be? An edit mode, a tag of some kind, or are there just not enough wikis? I mean, if people click that paid to edit category and they just see New World Encyclopedia, maybe it's not a category worth having. But I'm also aware of the ones that use ad revenue sharing, but I'm not sure how many exist anymore. [[User:Star651|Star651]] ([[User talk:Star651|talk]]) 20:34, 8 August 2023 (UTC)


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