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==Welcome==
Christophe!  Nice to see you here. :-)
Christophe!  Nice to see you here. :-)


Also, very nice to have our first '''multilingual''' wiki person! Best,  [[User:MarkDilley|MarkDilley]]
Also, very nice to have our first '''multilingual''' wiki person! Best,  [[User:MarkDilley|MarkDilley]]
 
:Hi Mark and thanks. This WikiIndex is a very good initiative. I'll try to make my best to bring french wiki-people -- Christophe
Hi Mark and thanks. This WikiIndex is a very good initiative. I'll try to make my best to bring french wiki-people -- Christophe
 


Yea!! :-) [[User:MarkDilley|MarkDilley]]
Yea!! :-) [[User:MarkDilley|MarkDilley]]


== Caricature ==
==[[:Category:Caricature|Caricature]]==
[[File:Portraitxtof2.jpg|right]]
Christophe, we're doing [[:Category:Caricature|caricatures]] for [[:Category:Wiki people|wiki people]] we know and would be very happy to do one for you if you wish.  Just upload or send me a pic and I'll have it done --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 03:09, 4 Feb 2006 (EST)
:Neat idea. I don't really feel at ease in publishing photos in wikis.  Could you do something with that?  Have a nice week-end - [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|xtof]]


Christophe, we're doing caricatures for wiki people we know and would be very happy to do one for you if you wish.  Just upload or send me a pic and I'll have it done --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 03:09, 4 Feb 2006 (EST)
==Projet==
Ouvrir une [[:Category: FrenchTranslation]]
*[[WikiIndex:Ajouter un Wiki]]


==Help - en Francais==
Awesome that you've added [[Help:Aide:Contenus|French help]], THANKS! --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 18:51, 9 Feb 2006 (EST)
:Is it ok raymond to create a [[:category: Aide]]? Thanks to let me know. - [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|xtof]] 19:37, 9 Feb 2006 (EST)
::Sure, I think that means help in French, right? --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 21:04, 9 Feb 2006 (EST)


Neat idea. I don't really feel at ease in publishing photos in wikis.Could you do something with that ? [[Image:Portraitxtof2.jpg|40px]] Have a nice week-end - xtof
==Hot!==
Love the [[Bienvenue|front page of yours]]! see my thoughts from earlier at [[:Category:Spanish]] - would that help organize language based content? Best, [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>


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Hi Mark. Trying to follow on [[:Category: French]]. Think it could be complex to multiply the [[:Category:Language|categories language]]. How about using [[redirect]]ion?  I mean but still not sure for our future french and other languages sub-community...
*create <tt><nowiki>[[:Category: Français]]</nowiki></tt>
*redirect <tt><nowiki>[[:Category: Français]]</nowiki></tt> to [[:Category: French]]


== Projet ==
We could also invite people to tag articles with some tags I just found on [[Yellowikis]]:
<div style=column-width:16em>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: العربية]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Česká]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Dansk]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Deutsch]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Español]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Français]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Italiano]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Magyar]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Nederlands]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: 日本語]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Polski]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Português]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Româna]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Русский]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Suomi]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Svenska]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: ไทย]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: Українська]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: 中文]]</nowiki></tt>
*<tt><nowiki>[[:category: 繁體中文]]</nowiki></tt></div>
To be completed. But for the moment, I see two main problems:
*the ability for people to type some characters
*the ability to understand all these languages
Should we build a table in order to ease redirections via a simple copy/paste extracted from a page like LanguageTagTable or something like that? Really need your guidelines ;) -- [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 05:24, 14 Feb 2006 (EST)


Ouvrir une Category:FrenchTranslation
:Like some of your ideas above, but I was thinking sorta reverse:
* [[Ajouter un Wiki]]
:*redirect [[:Category:French]] to <tt><nowiki>[[:Category:Français]]</nowiki></tt>


== Help - en Francais ==
:But I am not sure about the language stuff!  It can get overwhelming real quick! :-)  [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>


Awesome that you've added French help, THANKS! --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 18:51, 9 Feb 2006 (EST)
::Mark, I just tried the redirection mentioned... But reverted it because I felt completely lost ! Agree with you on the fact it could get ''overwhelming'' ... Still confused about the language base content. Not sure it's a simple way :-) [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 12:16, 14 Feb 2006 (EST)


Is it ok raymond to create a category:aide ? Thanks to let me know. - <small>[[User:ChristopheDucamp|xtof]] 19:37, 9 Feb 2006 (EST)</small>
==Inactive==
I see you picked right up on that!  you might use the [[template:inactive]], i think it's a bit easier?


Sure, I think that means help in French, right? --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 21:04, 9 Feb 2006 (EST)
Yes, for the future of defunct, it could be easier ? Just made first tests ! it works. Defunct is a huge category to move ;) -- [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|xtof]]


== Hot! ==
yes, there are something like 200 inactives and 100 defuncts, but many overlap, so maybe only 250 in total :-)


Love the front page of yours! see my thoughts from earlier at [[:Category:Spanish]] - would that help organize language based content?  Best, [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>
ok. let's go ! I will begin by the end Z,Y,X, etc.. and one day we could meet :-) - [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|xtof]].


great idea :-)
----
You're technique for inactive wikis and mine are different:


Hi Mark. Trying to follow on [[:Category:French]]. Think it could be complex to multiply the categories language. How about using redirection ? I mean but still not sure for our future french and other languages subcommunity...
'''Christophe example'''
* create [[:Category:Français]]
<pre>
* redirect [[:Category:Français]] to [[:Category:French]]
[[Category:Inactive]]


We could also invite people to tag articles with some tags I just found on [[YelloWikis]] :
{|cellpadding=5 border=0 align=right
* {{tag|العربية}}
|
* {{tag|Česká}} 
{|cellpadding=3 align=right border=5
* {{tag|Dansk}}
|
* {{tag|Deutsch}}
* {{tag|Español}}
* {{tag|Français}}
* {{tag|Italiano}}
* {{tag|Magyar}}
* {{tag|Nederlands}}
* {{tag|日本語}}
* {{tag|Polski}}
* {{tag|Português}}
* {{tag|Româna}}
* {{tag|Русский}}
* {{tag|Suomi}}
* {{tag|Svenska}}
* {{tag|ไทย}}
* {{tag|Українська}}
* {{tag|中文}}
* {{tag|繁體中文}}


To be completed. But for the moment, I see two main problems :
{|class=infobox cellpadding=3 style="width:23em; font-size:95%"
* the ability for peopale to type some characters
|
* the ability to understand all these languages
|-
!style=text-align:right|[[File:Inactive.png]]
|[http://wiki.wafel.net/ WafelWorldWiki]
|}


Should we build a table in order to ease redirections via a simple copy/paste extracted from a page like [[LanguageTagTable]] or something like that ?
|}
Really need your guidelines ;) -- [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 05:24, 14 Feb 2006 (EST)
|}</pre>


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'''Ray example'''
Like some of your ideas above, but I was thinking sorta reverse:
<pre>
* redirect [[:Category:French]] to [[:Category:Français]]
{{Inactive |
wiki_name = BorlandDelphiWiki |
wiki_URL = http://www.upperbit.com/OpenWiki/owbase/ow.asp?BorlandDelphi
}}
==Description==
Not Found</pre>


But I am not sure about the language stuff!  It can get overwhelming real quick! :-)  [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>
The reason I'm using the template this way is because we will later have the option to change the template to make a global change. Or do you have a reason that I'm not aware of? --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 23:07, 15 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
 
Mark, I just tried the redirection mentioned... But reverted it because I felt completely lost ! Agree with you on the fact it could get ''overwhelming'' ... Still confused about the language base content. Not sure it's a simple way :-) [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 12:16, 14 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
== Inactive ==


I see you picked right up on that!  you might use the template:inactive, i think it's a bit easier?
:Hi raymon. no reason at all to use the old template. I did not invent the previous one (this wiki-syntax if still too much complicated imho...). Just tested the new inactive template on [[ZaurusWiki]] to achieve Z inactive letter. Nice. Will follow-up soon to review Y,X,W and so on. Thanks for your new suggestion. Seems much more simple to use. I have to work now :-( [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 05:50, 16 Feb 2006 (EST)


Yes, for the future of defunct, it could be easier ? Just made first tests ! it works. Defunct is a huge category to move ;) -- xtof
::Super, thanks :-) --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 13:34, 16 Feb 2006 (EST)


yes, there are something like 200 inactives and 100 defuncts, but many overlap, so maybe only 250 in total :-)
:::I realize where the confusion was and I've tried to be more specific in defining "template" separately from "boilerplate text" so we don't get confused again.  My apologies --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 03:52, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)


ok. let's go ! I will begin by the end Z,Y,X, etc.. and one day we could meet :-) - x.
::::Thanks. Just discovering through an update of [[WikiIndex:Portail communauté|portail communauté]] the difference between "template" and "boilerplate". Still not found the right words in french... For the moment, I've translated template with "gabarit". Should we suggest french people to use [[template:Wiki boilerplate]]. For me ([[Template:Wiki|New Template]]) is still confusing... on [[WikiIndex:Community portal|Community Portal]]. Hé Raymond, may be you could sleep sometime ;) [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 04:06, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)


great idea :-)
Salut vielle branche, dis-donc tu te bouges!-) [[User:OlivierAuber|OlivierAuber]] 08:32, 25 Feb 2006 (EST)
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You're technique for inactive wikis and mine are different:


'''Christophe example'''
:J'aimerais réattaquer le projet [[WikiNode]]s pour la [[:Category:FêteInternet]] -- [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 09:06, 25 Feb 2006 (EST)
<pre>
[[Category:Inactive]]
{| cellpadding=5 border=0 align=right
|
{| cellpadding=3 align=right border=5
|
{| class="infobox" cellpadding=3 style="width: 23em; font-size: 95%; "
|+
|-  
! style="text-align:right;" | [[image:Inactive.png]]
| [http://wiki.wafel.net/ WafelWorldWiki]
|}
|}
|}
</pre>


'''Ray example'''
==definition of inactive==
<pre>
I noticed you asked about a [[:Category:Spammed|spam-filled]] wiki and changing to inactive.  I think the idea is that [[:Category:Needs love|Needs love]] covers spam-filled as long as the engine itself still works.  Inactive is only if the site isn't there anymore, or isn't a wiki anymore. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:18, 25 Feb 2006 (EST)
{{Inactive |
:Thanks Ted - [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 18:45, 25 Feb 2006 (EST)
wiki_name = BorlandDelphiWiki |
wiki_URL = http://www.upperbit.com/OpenWiki/owbase/ow.asp?BorlandDelphi
}}
==Description==
Not Found
</pre>


The reason I'm using the template this way is because we will later have the option to change the template to make a global changeOr do you have a reason that I'm not aware of? --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 23:07, 15 Feb 2006 (EST)
==move function==
Do you know about it?  Near the top to the right of the "[[edit]]" button is "[[move]]"You can use that to [[rename]] pages and preserve their [[edit history]]. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 16:43, 9 May 2006 (EDT)


:Merci Ted. Great for any future translation/structure migration : [[:Category:FrenchTranslation]] and pages contained in [[:Category:Aide]] should move with prefixing WikiIndex:... ? A lot of work this week. Should come back here probably next week to help on translation/synchronization [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 05:21, 10 May 2006 (EDT)


Hi raymon. no reason at all to use the old template. I did not invent the previous one (this wiki-syntax if still too much complicated imho...). Just tested the new inactive template on [[ZaurusWiki]] to achieve Z inactive letter. Nice. Will follow-up soon to review Y,X,W and so on. Thanks for your new suggestion. Seems much more simple to use. I have to work now :-( [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 05:50, 16 Feb 2006 (EST)
::Yes, those categories look good. I'm still not clear myself on naming scheme for meta pages. Do you have opinions on this?  The WikiIndex namespace seems to make sense, though there's also a Help namespace. I'm not sure how to know which pages go in which namespace. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:14, 10 May 2006 (EDT)


Super, thanks :-) --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 13:34, 16 Feb 2006 (EST)
I think we can use whatever namespace we want (within a limit of 150) - so whatever it is, we can hardwire it into this MediaWiki. [[MarkDilley]]